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    Posted: 10/29/2018 at 3:44pm
Asked a few chinese pros in the bay area they all uses the same boosting method. Hope this helps. 

Rubber, h3 neo prov 40 degree 2.15/2.1mm

If new
1) 1 thin layer of kailin
2) 2 hours
3) another thin layer of kailin 
5) 6 hours 
6) another medium layer of kailin 
7) overnight
8) check if the oil has dried up. If not, keep waiting. No need to wait for the rubber dom to settle down. 
9) they use dhs white glue. 
process takes no more than 2 days. This is in California where humidity is not high. 

if used: 
1) just one thin layer and reglue
2) repeat until bubble and to the next rubber if bubble is in the middle or in spot that's bad. 


for backhand which is t05
if new 
1) just one thin later and wait 6 hours then glue. 


For some reason the pros doesn't use falco tempo long, nor do they put a layer of glue in between. 




Edited by hunkeelin - 10/29/2018 at 3:47pm
FH: h3 2.2 39
t05: 2.1
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Similar to my suggestion.
Choose any THIN booster, thin like water (in fact it is lighter than water).
If it's thin enough, then first layer takes 15ms, 2nd layer takes 1-3 hours.
No need any glue in between. The reason we need glue is to keep booster even when the rubber has been curled, means after 2nd layer.
I am not a pro, so I don't need the third one, it has been fast as rocket for me.
If you have GOOD h3 and GOOD booster, there is noway to make bubble.

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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Similar to my suggestion.
Choose any THIN booster, thin like water (in fact it is lighter than water).
If it's thin enough, then first layer takes 15ms, 2nd layer takes 1-3 hours.
No need any glue in between. The reason we need glue is to keep booster even when the rubber has been curled, means after 2nd layer.
I am not a pro, so I don't need the third one, it has been fast as rocket for me.
If you have GOOD h3 and GOOD booster, there is noway to make bubble.



Name a good boster beside falco and where you can get it
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:

Similar to my suggestion.
Choose any THIN booster, thin like water (in fact it is lighter than water).
If it's thin enough, then first layer takes 15ms, 2nd layer takes 1-3 hours.
No need any glue in between. The reason we need glue is to keep booster even when the rubber has been curled, means after 2nd layer.
I am not a pro, so I don't need the third one, it has been fast as rocket for me.
If you have GOOD h3 and GOOD booster, there is noway to make bubble.



Name a good boster beside falco and where you can get it

Falco is not a booster, nor "good"
search for RTF, Nittaku Axel or Stiga Extreme, there are still some suppliers for them.
I make booster myself, its name is Phoenix Reviver.
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Originally posted by chop4ever chop4ever wrote:


search for RTF, Nittaku Axel or Stiga Extreme, there are still some suppliers for them.

Are these boosters also good for H3 / Neo (like seamon, dianchi, kailin,...)?

Anyone used maximizer with H3 Neo?

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Whatever you want to call what Falco is, the product has received solid reviews from countless players so I'm okay with that.
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Originally posted by AndiHL AndiHL wrote:

Anyone used maximizer with H3 Neo?


Yes! I use it on H3N Prov 39º and have also previously used it on Nittaku H3N. One decent layer or two thin layers is all you need in my opinion and it doesn't make the rubber mushy. I have used Falco at some point and didn't like it so much.
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Originally posted by vik2000 vik2000 wrote:

Whatever you want to call what Falco is, the product has received solid reviews from countless players so I'm okay with that.

Before Copernicus, the Earth was the center of the universe, many pros believed so.
So does "mystery" "national" "blue sponge" H3
then "boosted with Falco" has great feeling...
oh my God, I am powerful as CNT, I have made my H3 bubbled, whoohooo!
another H3 please, here is my fresh money!
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Originally posted by AndiHL AndiHL wrote:

Anyone used maximizer with H3 Neo?


Yes! I use it on H3N Prov 39º and have also previously used it on Nittaku H3N. One decent layer or two thin layers is all you need in my opinion and it doesn't make the rubber mushy. I have used Falco at some point and didn't like it so much.

Thanks!! 
Can you also compare the maximizer to seamon and/or dianchi booster?


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what is the exact name of this maximizer?
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Originally posted by tom tom wrote:

what is the exact name of this maximizer?

dymax maximizer
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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Asked a few chinese pros in the bay area they all uses the same boosting method.


Are there really very many Chinese "pros" in the bay area? (i.e. people who make a living playing table tennis..).

I've got quite a collection of boosters. Falco is fairly expensive and lasts the longest, but it is also quite hard to use since it takes a LONG time before the sheet flattens out (DAYS). If you try to apply the rubber to the blade while it's still got a case of tacolitis, it will not stay down. The best CHEAP booster is Wendy's (from Ebay). I don't think it's any better than Seamoon but it's a lot cheaper. I mainly use booster to revive dead/shrunken tensors - I don't see the point to paying $40 for a sheet of rubber only to have to throw it away after a couple months because it shrank.

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Falco has been debunked as low order kerosene fuel
It works with some rubbers but for h3 neo it doesnt do much
Dianchi, Haifu,and sea moon as best. Falco only softens the sheet because it is soo thick and hence the longer duration...
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There's also trf which is good too nowadays
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Originally posted by Iskandar Taib Iskandar Taib wrote:

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Asked a few chinese pros in the bay area they all uses the same boosting method.


Are there really very many Chinese "pros" in the bay area? (i.e. people who make a living playing table tennis..).

I've got quite a collection of boosters. Falco is fairly expensive and lasts the longest, but it is also quite hard to use since it takes a LONG time before the sheet flattens out (DAYS). If you try to apply the rubber to the blade while it's still got a case of tacolitis, it will not stay down. The best CHEAP booster is Wendy's (from Ebay). I don't think it's any better than Seamoon but it's a lot cheaper. I mainly use booster to revive dead/shrunken tensors - I don't see the point to paying $40 for a sheet of rubber only to have to throw it away after a couple months because it shrank.

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Can you be more specific? about using in dead shrunk rubbers. Do they bounce again?

Edited by mykonos96 - 11/08/2018 at 10:02am
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Originally posted by Iskandar Taib Iskandar Taib wrote:

Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

Asked a few chinese pros in the bay area they all uses the same boosting method.


Are there really very many Chinese "pros" in the bay area? (i.e. people who make a living playing table tennis..).

I've got quite a collection of boosters. Falco is fairly expensive and lasts the longest, but it is also quite hard to use since it takes a LONG time before the sheet flattens out (DAYS). If you try to apply the rubber to the blade while it's still got a case of tacolitis, it will not stay down. The best CHEAP booster is Wendy's (from Ebay). I don't think it's any better than Seamoon but it's a lot cheaper. I mainly use booster to revive dead/shrunken tensors - I don't see the point to paying $40 for a sheet of rubber only to have to throw it away after a couple months because it shrank.

Iskandar


Those so called Chinese Pros living in the Bay Area must all be sleeping under bridges and eating at various homeless shelters....

Here are rental rates in various counties around the Bay:
Here’s how much median gross rents went up in San Francisco and in surrounding counties from 2012 to 2016 in that four-year period:

San Francisco: 10.49 percent (from $1,477/month to $1,632/month)
Alameda County: 13.2 percent (from $1,265/month to $1,432/month)
Santa Clara County: 20.22 percent ($1,508/month to $1,813/month)
Contra Costa County: 12.3 percent ($1,340/month to $1,506/month)
San Mateo County: 17 percent ($1,541/month to $1,803/month)
Solano County: Seven percent ($1,249/month to $1,337/month)



Edited by lineup32 - 11/08/2018 at 12:21pm
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