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    Posted: 11/05/2018 at 9:07pm
I've been hearing Adam Bobrow commentate a lot about different techniques during matches.  Some of these new terms that I've heard are: chiquita, strawberry, banana, ...

Just what the hell are they, and how many new "terms" are there?


Edited by liulin04 - 11/05/2018 at 9:07pm
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You may heard advertisement from the supermarket he’s working which sells fruits
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It´s Adam Bobrow, don´t take it too serious...
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Presuming you are serious:

Chiquita is the over the table backhand flick, with a contact on the outside of the ball, popularized by Petr Korbel and in constant use by FZD.

Banana is the same as Chiquita.

Strawberry is sort of the reverse of a chiquita, you make contact on the inside, causing the ball to break away from the forehand of your opponent. It has not caught on as much as the chiquita, you can't hit the ball nearly as hard. I see it more in the women's game.
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Presuming you are serious:

Chiquita is the over the table backhand flick, with a contact on the outside of the ball, popularized by Petr Korbel and in constant use by FZD.

Banana is the same as Chiquita.

Strawberry is sort of the reverse of a chiquita, you make contact on the inside, causing the ball to break away from the forehand of your opponent. It has not caught on as much as the chiquita, you can't hit the ball nearly as hard. I see it more in the women's game.

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Why can't chiquita and bananas just be called backhand flicks?  Sheesh Adam Bobrow
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Chiquita/Banana describes the arc of the racket as it wraps around the side of the ball. Backhand flicks (without all that sidespin) have been around since the hardbat era. With chiquita you coil your wrist inward, not below the ball, allowing you a bit of windup without the table interfering with the backswing. The name difference is to distinguish one from the other.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenneyy88 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11/06/2018 at 12:24am
Originally posted by liulin04 liulin04 wrote:

Why can't chiquita and bananas just be called backhand flicks?  Sheesh Adam Bobrow

Adam didn't invent those names. It is a sidespin flick popularized by Korbel. 


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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Presuming you are serious:

Chiquita is the over the table backhand flick, with a contact on the outside of the ball, popularized by Petr Korbel and in constant use by FZD.

Banana is the same as Chiquita.

Strawberry is sort of the reverse of a chiquita, you make contact on the inside, causing the ball to break away from the forehand of your opponent. It has not caught on as much as the chiquita, you can't hit the ball nearly as hard. I see it more in the women's game.


That stroke were used by chinese before waldner around 1981 my coach showed some videos
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Do you know if they have also this kind of new vocabulary in Japanese or Chinese ?
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In the old hardbat days, there was far less coaching around and many international players had what would be termed as weird styles today.
The greatest TT player of all time was Viktor Barna. He mostly used his backhand for all strokes. These backhand players used that 'strawberry flick' especially when caught out out by a fast ball to their forehand area. They also did a sort of banana flick but Korbel took it to another level and the Chinese made it standard play for everyone.
Chiquita is well known in Europe for their branding of bananas, hence why both Chiquita and banana flick are used interchangeably.


Edited by Tinykin - 11/06/2018 at 8:32am
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