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    Posted: 11/07/2018 at 7:00pm
Watched her amazing performance at Swedish Open and would love to know what pips Mima uses on her BH. Please don’t tell me it’s Moristo SP because there is no way those are SPs. It looks like MPs or a fast attacking LP.
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It is moristo
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I would like to know the reason "there is no way those are SPs".
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Yes I’ve seen the reference to Moristo, but right from the start when she hits one to Zhe’s FH, Zhu hits it in the bottom of the net like it was medium or long pips. Many times when she attacked with it Zhu returns it in the bottom of the net like she is clueless. A Chinese coach I regularly even said it looks like medium or long pips. Short pips just don’t cause that much disruption normally.
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Hi,

In observing closely her gallery of shots, there is no question that there are executions that are not characteristic of short pips.  Nor, it may be said, may some of these executions be accomplished with long pips.  A reliable contact I have indicated to me they are medium pips: that, when wielded with great skill and adaptability, perform as short pips with certain techniques and as long pips with other of her techniques. 

My strong sense is that this is a singular specialness of Mima Ito.  With much subtlety and refinement, she has, through an enormous number of thoughtful training hours, developed a set of equipment-dependent techniques of very high sophistication that has contributed substantially to her success.

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I can see this Moristo SP going on sale real soon
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I think it is new Moristo sp ax.
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Ito uses Moristo SP since forever. She might have changed recently but I doubt it. There seem to be no change in her BH technique.
Why can she create so much difficulty for her opponents? It's because of her skills. It's not some magical rubber.
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I wonder what thickness of Moristo SP did she use.
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Originally posted by balldance balldance wrote:

Ito uses Moristo SP since forever. She might have changed recently but I doubt it. There seem to be no change in her BH technique.
Why can she create so much difficulty for her opponents? It's because of her skills. It's not some magical rubber.
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Bingo.

Soon Moristo SP will be selling like hot cakes.


Edited by skip3119 - 11/08/2018 at 6:33am
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Mima does something like a chop block with her bh many times.
This plus using the forehand smash drives loopers crazy.
The chinese like liu shiwen and ding ning are not trained for this.
This style is more like basic ping pong, like what you would see in a bar.


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Hi,

Also to keep in mind is that the ITTF does not have a medium pimples category; it is not recognized by them.  They have "in" and "out" and "long" and "anti".

Two years ago I became so enamored with Mima Ito's backhand that I played with the commercial version of the rubber for 6 months, with most of the motivation to assist my students in their development.  

Based on my understanding of the argot, it is medium pips; it feels like it and plays like it.  I also concluded that her sponge is not an out-of-the-package sponge, for her powerful backhand must be augmented with either a different sponge, or boosting, or both.

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That makes sense Don. Watching how she uses it and how much trouble it causes for her opponent makes me think it’s a MP. The Chinese coach I practice with also said it’s probably a special version made just for her. I see that Moristo comes in 1.4 and 1.9, but she may have her own special thickness. If I had to guess I’d say she is playing with the 1.4 thickness due to her control and the disruptive effect.
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Originally posted by balldance balldance wrote:

Ito uses Moristo SP since forever. She might have changed recently but I doubt it. There seem to be no change in her BH technique.
Why can she create so much difficulty for her opponents? It's because of her skills. It's not some magical rubber.


I tried a LP from a korean proplayer kim kyun ah and its very disturbing Unlike the comercial version which its easy to play against
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Has always been:







Edited by zeio - 11/08/2018 at 10:37am
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hai everyone the reason Miu Hirano is losing is because she uses Clipper once she switches to a BTY ALC blade she will rank #1 that's a FACT

Edited by HuLimei - 11/08/2018 at 10:48am
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WHY ITO MIMA SUPERIOR TO OTHER GIRLS BY FAR ?

MIMA ITO looks hefty, sturdy gal. This massive muscularity is a great advantage over all the other gals.

ITO's daily physical exersise is punching the "sand bag" vigorously, like a boxer. It is Japanese COACHING KNOWHOW, not so popular in China yet.      
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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Has always been:







Lsst time I checked ittf gallery I saw h3 in FH
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

WHY ITO MIMA SUPERIOR TO OTHER GIRLS BY FAR ?
MIMA ITO looks hefty, sturdy gal. This massive muscularity is a great advantage over all the other gals.
 
Ito can definitely bench more than the average forum user here.
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Originally posted by HuLimei HuLimei wrote:

[COLOR="#9900ff" size="3"]<b style=""]hai everyone the reason Miu Hirano is losing is because she uses Clipper once she switches to a BTY ALC blade she will rank #1 that's a FACT
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Can BTY solve global warming and cure cancer?
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Can BTY solve global warming and cure cancer?
YES.
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Originally posted by balldance balldance wrote:

Ito uses Moristo SP since forever. She might have changed recently but I doubt it. There seem to be no change in her BH technique.
Why can she create so much difficulty for her opponents? It's because of her skills. It's not some magical rubber.
She changed to Moristo SP AX (came out late month), may be it helped Wink
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Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

   WHY ITO MIMA SUPERIOR TO OTHER GIRLS BY FAR ?

MIMA ITO looks hefty, sturdy gal. This massive muscularity is a great advantage over all the other gals.

ITO's daily physical exersise is punching the "sand bag" vigorously, like a boxer. It is Japanese COACHING KNOWHOW, not so popular in China yet.      


Hefty? She is one of the tiniest athletes I have ever seen.
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Originally posted by FruitLoop FruitLoop wrote:

Originally posted by igorponger igorponger wrote:

   WHY ITO MIMA SUPERIOR TO OTHER GIRLS BY FAR ?

MIMA ITO looks hefty, sturdy gal. This massive muscularity is a great advantage over all the other gals.

ITO's daily physical exersise is punching the "sand bag" vigorously, like a boxer. It is Japanese COACHING KNOWHOW, not so popular in China yet.      




Hefty? She is one of the tiniest athletes I have ever seen.



Dont you see igor is swimming in vodka?
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Originally posted by HuLimei HuLimei wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Can BTY solve global warming and cure cancer?
<font size="7" color="#ff00ff">YES.


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Edited by mykonos96 - 11/08/2018 at 12:07pm
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Are you crazy? She's 1.50. She has no power, only speed. But she's like half a second faster than everyone else, or at least she was in that tournament, so you got to see from the world's top chinese players the same expressions a completely noob makes when playing against someone good
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Lsst time I checked ittf gallery I saw h3 in FH

She was on H3 Turbo Orange in 2017 but switched back to Fastarc G-1 at the start of 2018.
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