advice on rubbers to use with Liu Shiwen ZLF

Good commentary overall, particularly given the 1400 rating.  The Liu Shiwen is very flexible relative to it's speed, therefore better attacking players will typically want medium rubber on their backhands, and harder rubber on their forehands.  

I have Liu Shiwen ZLF. I use Butterfly Rozena on FH. Excellent in every way. Not as fast as T05. So a bit better control.  

jpenmaster wrote: Physics.....Im not a physicist but work at Fermilab building the experiments. I am currently working on PIP2 and SLAC. Watching your BH have you ever thought about long pips? It looks like you prefer to chop everything to your BH. I saw you killed a few high balls at the table but that's easy with pips as well.

colton wrote: pgpg wrote: Also, stop thinking about the throw angles of rubbers and blades...  Made me laugh!  But I'm a physics professor, so looking at things quantitatively and analyzing data is kind of what I do.  Anyway, thanks again to all who chimed in.  I decided to order Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft 2.0 and Xiom Vega Europe 2.0. I'll try them each with forehand and backhand and see how they go.

pgpg wrote: colton wrote: adishorul wrote: Vega europe is a high throw rubber if you glue it on a high throw blade the whole setup will throw the ball too high beside that you will have to close the angle more on both side. IMHO something like nittaku fastarc s1 will work better on LSW. According to https://revspin.net/rubber/, the Fastarc S-1 has an even higher throw than the Vega Europe. Xiom Vega Europe - 4.6, medium throw Nittaku Fastarc S-1 - 5.4, medium high throw (I know pgpg told me to stop browsing revspin but I haven't taken that advice yet.) Also, stop thinking about the throw angles of rubbers and blades...

 

colton wrote: adishorul wrote: Vega europe is a high throw rubber if you glue it on a high throw blade the whole setup will throw the ball too high beside that you will have to close the angle more on both side. IMHO something like nittaku fastarc s1 will work better on LSW. According to https://revspin.net/rubber/, the Fastarc S-1 has an even higher throw than the Vega Europe. Xiom Vega Europe - 4.6, medium throw Nittaku Fastarc S-1 - 5.4, medium high throw (I know pgpg told me to stop browsing revspin but I haven't taken that advice yet.)

You see most of the suggestions are for softer rubbers.

This is because they will help you put a lot more spin on the ball more easily than hard rubbers, so they will help you come into your proper technique more easily, as you'll be instantly rewarded for even a small step in the right direction.
This will also help motivate you as you advance. Worthwhile.



Edited by Lightzy - 12/29/2018 at 8:46am

colton wrote: Pr1nc - forehand Xiom Vega (not sure which version) - backhand Xiom vega (not sure which version)

Xiom Vega Europe 2.0mm on both sides because is all to do rubber and because of high arc of LS ZLF.

Hi, from my experience I'd recommend you using two different as hardness rubbers
so u can see which one to which side better fits. I'll say Vega pro (max) FH and Rosena BH (max) for example.
Cheers, Stan

Edited by stancuzi - 12/28/2018 at 2:12pm

Seriously, at your level (and mine) I would not worry about hardness except for avoiding the very soft or very hard stuff. You are at a level where variations in your stroke will mask the feel differences in sponge hardness anyway.

Get any of the combinations listed and work on your game for a year or more. When you are settled in your technique then think about varying one side hardness at a time and seeing if it makes a significant difference. If you want to start with slightly different hardnesses on each side that is ok. Try each hardness on both sides and then train with what feels best. Do not be surprised if after a year you change your mind on which hardness fits which side as your strokes change and improve.

Mark

colton wrote: colton wrote: Here's a video of me playing another ~1400 player in the finals of a university tournament so you can judge better for yourself if you are willing to watch for a few minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBb0-bgDu54.  I'm the guy in red and yellow. Great, my video just got removed due to copyright issue with the background audio track I selected. Sorry about that. I'll have to do a different audio track and get it back up soon.

You may want to get a harder rubber on backhand for better pushes and a softer rubber on forehand for easier loops

Lightzy wrote: Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft is also excellent. It will give you a very light setup as well, and the LSW is the best weight-balanced blade I've ever held in my life, so it'll feel very good in the hand and make it easier for you to spin. Say, Rakza7 Soft 2.0 I'd suggest against harder rubbers at this juncture, so no vega pro etc or whatever stuff u get recommended.

notfound123 wrote: I would start with Vega Europe ... very nice and forgiving