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    Posted: 01/02/2019 at 2:26pm
FunnyBunny did a rough translation. I finally got some time to sit down and work on the radio where the interview came from.



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Yes, thank you.  LGL has achieved everything both as a player and coach so has a deeper understanding of a player like HT.  For those who dislike/hate HT, I recommend watching this video and keep an open mind.
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No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. 
LGL is such a cunning leader!



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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. 
LGL is such a cunning leader!

I don’t think so. LGL loves fiery players like HT and ZJK. For HT this is further validation of his path and would only encourage him to keep working harder to achieve his dream.
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. 
LGL is such a cunning leader!



I don’t think so. LGL loves fiery players like HT and ZJK. For HT this is further validation of his path and would only encourage him to keep working harder to achieve his dream.


I wonder when will start the trials for 2019 wttc?. I bet CNT will "build" a HT clone to train the team
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. 
LGL is such a cunning leader!



I don’t think so. LGL loves fiery players like HT and ZJK. For HT this is further validation of his path and would only encourage him to keep working harder to achieve his dream.


I wonder when will start the trials for 2019 wttc?. I bet CNT will "build" a HT clone to train the team

I don't think it'll help here - HT's excellence doesn't come from a particular playing style.  If anything, he plays a modern aggressive game that is quite similar to CNT players.

As LGL points out, the problem is more fundamental - HT is just really good and it's tough to find a player of that quality in that age range.


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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Yes, thank you.  LGL has achieved everything both as a player and coach so has a deeper understanding of a player like HT.  For those who dislike/hate HT, I recommend watching this video and keep an open mind.

Seriously? LGL likes it and you will have to like it too?
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Originally posted by kindof99 kindof99 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Yes, thank you.  LGL has achieved everything both as a player and coach so has a deeper understanding of a player like HT.  For those who dislike/hate HT, I recommend watching this video and keep an open mind.


Seriously? LGL likes it and you will have to like it too?

Commentary on a tt prodigy from a table tennis luminary is worth listening to.
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His opinion on this means actually nothing to me. I don't consider TH screaming to be cheating just really annoying.
LGL is talking from a player's perspective I complain from a spectators one. The same way people lament the loss of defenders but the pros never comment
Or how in football literally everyone and their mother dives like they're doing their best Phelps impression.
If there was a way of hearing a reasonable celebrations from players and keep crowd noise and ball sound I honestly wouldn't care, just winds me up like sharapova used to.
He's a great player mind so I'll look forward to watching full United games from him in 5 years time when he will still be noisy but less so (and probably have a few championship medals more than most pros)
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Yes, thank you.  LGL has achieved everything both as a player and coach so has a deeper understanding of a player like HT.  For those who dislike/hate HT, I recommend watching this video and keep an open mind.
yes open minded just like some fanboy 
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His opinion on this means actually nothing to me. I don't consider TH screaming to be cheating just really annoying.
LGL is talking from a player's perspective I complain from a spectators one. The same way people lament the loss of defenders but the pros never comment
Or how in football literally everyone and their mother dives like they're doing their best Phelps impression.
If there was a way of hearing a reasonable celebrations from players and keep crowd noise and ball sound I honestly wouldn't care, just winds me up like sharapova used to.
He's a great player mind so I'll look forward to watching full United games from him in 5 years time when he will still be noisy but less so (and probably have a few championship medals more than most pros)
Now here's a contribution I can get behind.  Sensible commentary on what we realise is a nonsensical subject. 

However, I do have to take issue with one point: "in football literally everyone and their mother dives".   Of course, I'm talking about the incorrect use of "literally".  If this was true, what kind of insane world would we be living in where mothers were diving?  When and where would a football player's mother be going to ground and writhing?  At the supermarket?  Waiting in line at the theatre?  During a business meeting?  I just can't see a situation where claiming they'd been brought down from behind would be a useful option.  And who would then be giving them a free kick?

OTOH, I am a tt spectator who turns the sound off when HT plays.  (And I refuse to watch the screaming, druggie Sharapova.)
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Originally posted by opinari opinari wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. <div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">LGL is such a cunning leader!<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">
<br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I don’t think so. LGL loves fiery players like HT and ZJK. For HT this is further validation of his path and would only encourage him to keep working harder to achieve his dream.
<br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I wonder when will start the trials for 2019 wttc?. I bet CNT will "build" a HT clone to train the team

<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I don't think it'll help here - HT's excellence doesn't come from a particular playing style.  If anything, he plays a modern aggressive game that is quite similar to CNT players.<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">As LGL points out, the problem is more fundamental - HT is just <i ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">really good and it's tough to find a player of that quality in that age range.<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">



Chinese coaches taught practice players how to play like waldner. The problem is that HT style was born with plastic ball looks more deng yaping style with a storm of flathits over the table

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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by opinari opinari wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

No surprise here, somehow I think LGL has no choice: by taking HGT down with negative comments, he would strengthen the kid's will to kill while by sweet talking about his game, there is a chance that HT lowers his guard and becomes over self confident, which would be good for the CNT. <div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">LGL is such a cunning leader!<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">
<br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I don’t think so. LGL loves fiery players like HT and ZJK. For HT this is further validation of his path and would only encourage him to keep working harder to achieve his dream.
<br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I wonder when will start the trials for 2019 wttc?. I bet CNT will "build" a HT clone to train the team

<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">I don't think it'll help here - HT's excellence doesn't come from a particular playing style.  If anything, he plays a modern aggressive game that is quite similar to CNT players.<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">As LGL points out, the problem is more fundamental - HT is just <i ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">really good and it's tough to find a player of that quality in that age range.<div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><div ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335"><br ="dp1546465335_text" __decreased__="element1546465335">



Chinese coaches taught practice players how to play like waldner. The problem is that HT style was born with plastic ball looks more deng yaping style with a storm of flathits over the table

It actually also reminds me a bit of Yan An!  Close to the table, taking the ball early - HT adds the flat drives and a more consistent backhand though.
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Originally posted by opinari opinari wrote:

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It actually also reminds me a bit of Yan An!  Close to the table, taking the ball early - HT adds the flat drives and a more consistent backhand though.
this! 
Chen Qi comes to mind too.
Same spirit but HT chooses to have the BH as the foundation of his game unlike the norm at the time when being able to step around the bh wang liqin style was a proof of domination.
There lies the genius: a strategic decision to develop such a strong bh close to the table he can take control of the rally early, the fh can come later as the body grows. I wonder HT's FH loop when he is 18, I see no reason for his coaches not to find a way to maximize his output on that wing.
We just did not know it was even possible to develop such a game and that's where HT is more than human, he brought something totally new, a complete revamp of strategies we thought solid as dogma.
People might say that the stars aligned for HT and he got lucky: he developed a game optimized for a ball that did not exist yet, he did not know it would evolve to support his game while the rest of the world would struggle to adapt.
HT is the hero of a true modern fairy tale, I am so happy to be alive and conscious to witness all that!



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a Clear Stream of World Table Tennis ?
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a Clear Scream of World Table Tennis?

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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by opinari opinari wrote:

...<div ="dp1546527548_text"="" __decreased__="element1546527548">It actually also reminds me a bit of Yan An!  Close to the table, taking the ball early - HT adds the flat drives and a more consistent backhand <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" ="dp1546527548_text"="" __decreased__="element1546527548">though.</span>
this! 
Chen Qi comes to mind too.
Same spirit but HT chooses to have the BH as the foundation of his game unlike the norm at the time when being able to step around the bh wang liqin style was a proof of domination.
There lies the genius: a strategic decision to develop such a strong bh close to the table he can take control of the rally early, the fh can come later as the body grows. I wonder HT's FH loop when he is 18, I see no reason for his coaches not to find a way to maximize his output on that wing.
We just did not know it was even possible to develop such a game and that's where HT is more than human, he brought something totally new, a complete revamp of strategies we thought solid as dogma.
People might say that the stars aligned for HT and he got lucky: he developed a game optimized for a ball that did not exist yet, he did not know it would evolve to support his game while the rest of the world would struggle to adapt.
HT is the hero of a true modern fairy tale, I am so happy to be alive and conscious to witness all that!





More than human?
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

Originally posted by opinari opinari wrote:

...<div ="dp1546527548_text"="" __decreased__="element1546527548">It actually also reminds me a bit of Yan An!  Close to the table, taking the ball early - HT adds the flat drives and a more consistent backhand <span style="font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px;" ="dp1546527548_text"="" __decreased__="element1546527548">though.</span>
this! 
Chen Qi comes to mind too.
Same spirit but HT chooses to have the BH as the foundation of his game unlike the norm at the time when being able to step around the bh wang liqin style was a proof of domination.
There lies the genius: a strategic decision to develop such a strong bh close to the table he can take control of the rally early, the fh can come later as the body grows. I wonder HT's FH loop when he is 18, I see no reason for his coaches not to find a way to maximize his output on that wing.
We just did not know it was even possible to develop such a game and that's where HT is more than human, he brought something totally new, a complete revamp of strategies we thought solid as dogma.
People might say that the stars aligned for HT and he got lucky: he developed a game optimized for a ball that did not exist yet, he did not know it would evolve to support his game while the rest of the world would struggle to adapt.
HT is the hero of a true modern fairy tale, I am so happy to be alive and conscious to witness all that!





More than human?

do not have concrete proof that this genius did not develop his game by himself that took advantage of the plastic ball- but that would put him at around 11 when he came to this revolutionary idea and knew how make it work.  He can't even figure out his behaviour is not civil
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That’s part of the fairy tale: he doesn’t have to be conscious about it: he learns how to play, excels, progresses and on his way to glory, a ball change will further boost his game but the whole thing happens unbeknownst to him. He just walks on a cloud!

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That’s part of the fairy tale: he doesn’t have to be conscious about it: he learns how to play, excels, progresses and on his way to glory, a ball change will further boost his game but the whole thing happens unbeknownst to him. He just walks on a cloud!
well put - BTW do you work in PR or as fantasy novelist? 
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just a dreamer

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That’s part of the fairy tale: he doesn’t have to be conscious about it: he learns how to play, excels, progresses and on his way to glory, a ball change will further boost his game but the whole thing happens unbeknownst to him. He just walks on a cloud!


HT Is just chinese masterpiece no sense of proud about japanese coaches they got the finished product for free and if you think japanese are gonna train HT Forehand name a top japanese player with good Fh

I wonder how HT would play with short pips in his BH
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

That’s part of the fairy tale: he doesn’t have to be conscious about it: he learns how to play, excels, progresses and on his way to glory, a ball change will further boost his game but the whole thing happens unbeknownst to him. He just walks on a cloud!


HT Is just chinese masterpiece no sense of proud about japanese coaches they got the finished product for free and if you think japanese are gonna train HT Forehand name a top japanese player with good Fh

I wonder how HT would play with short pips in his BH
Yukiya Uda has a great FH. Maybe Uda's coach should train HT's FH.
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