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    Posted: 02/08/2019 at 1:15pm
What's the worst rubber you've played with lately? And why?

For me, Joola rhyzm P
It has no feel, little mechanical spin, little top spin grip and plays dead compared to anything else. For comparison it has less spin than unboostwd DHS pf4 which is a slow deadish rubber.


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Hm, I have tried 80 rubbers. Rhyzm p was one of the best...Huge spin(easily generated but top sheet) and great speed.

Lubomir pistej(Top 50) and aruna quadri has played with rhyzm-p. 


I think, its about combination blade and rubber. 

The worse combination was yasaka mark v and violin-totally no spin. (donic waldner diablo senso and mark v was perfect, aleo violin+baracuda was one of the best). 


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DHS Hurricane 3-50 Soft.
It´s useless, does not have the spin, control or speed of the original Hurricane.
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

DHS Hurricane 3-50 Soft.
It´s useless, does not have the spin, control or speed of the original Hurricane.

Agreed! 3-50 soft is aweful.
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rasanter r47 and r42. Tried them on 3 blades, couldnt send ball on the other side of net. 
I must say that some of my opponents had same rubbers and produced very good shots! Probably these rubbers dont like my blades :(
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Somehow the recent iteration of Tibhar Genius was a complete waste this time around that I tried it. I have played with it earlier and back then it was really great but now that I used it after having played with Tenergy and Rasanters of the lot, it is just so bad. It is a great rubber for beginners obviously but nothing in it for advanced players. I did move it around on three different blades and it was dead on all three of them. Maybe I got a bad batch or may be that is how it has always been. Don't know! 
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Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Somehow the recent iteration of Tibhar Genius was a complete waste this time around that I tried it. I have played with it earlier and back then it was really great but now that I used it after having played with Tenergy and Rasanters of the lot, it is just so bad. It is a great rubber for beginners obviously but nothing in it for advanced players. I did move it around on three different blades and it was dead on all three of them. Maybe I got a bad batch or may be that is how it has always been. Don't know! 


There are pro players in Germany who play with (boosted) Genius. So you most likely got a faulty one.
I had 3 sheets in the past 2 years and all were good.

Worst rubber I tried lately?
Probably Yasaka Rising Dragon. Too hard to be played effectively with euro technique, not as much spin as Chinese rubbers. So you either need a very peculiar (weird) technique or you need to boost it. Hitting hard with it, the ball does not catch the end line like with H3. But it also doesn't have the same quality in the mid gears like G-1 or Genius or VP. So I don't know how this rubber makes sense.
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Originally posted by Hozuki Hozuki wrote:

There are pro players in Germany who play with (boosted) Genius. So you most likely got a faulty one.
I had 3 sheets in the past 2 years and all were good.

Must have been a bad batch for sure because I could not get it to fire up no matter how many thin layers of booster I used on it. It just felt too mushy to begin with.

Originally posted by Hozuki Hozuki wrote:

Worst rubber I tried lately?
Probably Yasaka Rising Dragon. Too hard to be played effectively with euro technique, not as much spin as Chinese rubbers. So you either need a very peculiar (weird) technique or you need to boost it. Hitting hard with it, the ball does not catch the end line like with H3. But it also doesn't have the same quality in the mid gears like G-1 or Genius or VP. So I don't know how this rubber makes sense.

I know someone who uses Rising Dragon on their backhand and they get excellent control with it. However, the ply that they have it on really brings out the power in this rubber when needed. I think it pairs well with an all wood medium soft ply (just like other chinese rubbers do). But true that it is a lot between a chinese and euro rubber to be useful on the forehand side.

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Tibhar MX-P, Friendship Battle II. Nothing to do with all the comments and experiences of what I everywhere read. May be a bad batch, but still from brand like Tibhar...REALLY???
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The very worst rubber I ever tried is rasanter42
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Rubbers that have extremely soft top sheets. I find it difficult to loop with (during games). Gewo Hype KR, Donic Acuda Blue series, Rasanter V42. And similar stuff... 

Anyone know more Rubbers such as these? Kindly let me know. Would like to avoid. Thanks! 
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Originally posted by Chewy Chewy wrote:

Rubbers that have extremely soft top sheets. I find it difficult to loop with (during games). Gewo Hype KR, Donic Acuda Blue series, Rasanter V42. And similar stuff... 

Anyone know more Rubbers such as these? Kindly let me know. Would like to avoid. Thanks! 

Joola Rhyzer 48
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Ak47, galaxy moon
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My rubber.
(1) Juic SBA (Fl, 85 g) with Bluefire JP3 (red max) on FH and 0.6 mm DR N Desperado on BH; (2) Yinhe T7 (Fl, 87 g) with Bluefire M3 (red 2.0) on FH and 0.6 mm 755 on BH.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Ak47, galaxy moon
I like AK47 very much. 
I use the RED version tuned with 2 layers of FTL in my BH, it works nicely.
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Originally posted by Hozuki Hozuki wrote:

Originally posted by anubhav1984 anubhav1984 wrote:

Somehow the recent iteration of Tibhar Genius was a complete waste this time around that I tried it. I have played with it earlier and back then it was really great but now that I used it after having played with Tenergy and Rasanters of the lot, it is just so bad. It is a great rubber for beginners obviously but nothing in it for advanced players. I did move it around on three different blades and it was dead on all three of them. Maybe I got a bad batch or may be that is how it has always been. Don't know! 


There are pro players in Germany who play with (boosted) Genius. So you most likely got a faulty one.
I had 3 sheets in the past 2 years and all were good.

Worst rubber I tried lately?
Probably Yasaka Rising Dragon. Too hard to be played effectively with euro technique, not as much spin as Chinese rubbers. So you either need a very peculiar (weird) technique or you need to boost it. Hitting hard with it, the ball does not catch the end line like with H3. But it also doesn't have the same quality in the mid gears like G-1 or Genius or VP. So I don't know how this rubber makes sense.

I'd have to agree with yrd. I was using it opposite spinpips, and with my technique the players said I had more spin using the spinpips for looping... 

I do like mx s and victas 401 for similar but better executed rubbers for my style 
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stiga inverted rubbers.

Edited by kakapo - 02/09/2019 at 2:20am
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Acuda P2 was about the worst rubber I ever tried. The trajectory was just really flat, it didn't grip well in humid conditions, and the spin was weak. 
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Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Ak47, galaxy moon
I like AK47 very much. 
I use the RED version tuned with 2 layers of FTL in my BH, it works nicely.

What is wrong with AK47? Are they all bad?
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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Originally posted by TT newbie TT newbie wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Ak47, galaxy moon

I like AK47 very much. 
I use the RED version tuned with 2 layers of FTL in my BH, it works nicely.


What is wrong with AK47? Are they all bad?



I tried red and blue. Both very bad grip, blue very slow
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Thanks. I had few rallies with Blue. Its not tacky but grip was good. Topspin ball flying nearly parallel to the table after bounce
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Thanks Slevin! Will avoid for sure. What about rubbers similar to the Gold Arc 8 47.5? Any with same topsheet hardness and elasticity? 
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T05-FX. Use T05 or T80 instead. 
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Joola Rhyzer 48

lol  we have a few 2500+ rated players who switched to Rhyzer 48 (and 50) and they are doing just fine. I tried this rubber several times (and played against it) and it has a very nice speed-glue feel, lots of spin and speed.  
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Acuda Blue P1, P2 and P3 recently.

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Originally posted by notfound123 notfound123 wrote:

Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Joola Rhyzer 48

lol  we have a few 2500+ rated players who switched to Rhyzer 48 (and 50) and they are doing just fine. I tried this rubber several times (and played against it) and it has a very nice speed-glue feel, lots of spin and speed.  



I think its all about personal preferences. garbage for one person can be gem for another person

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The worst were Haifu Shark 2 (yellow sponge), Moon Speed, Haifu whale 2 newer version.


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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Thanks. I had few rallies with Blue. Its not tacky but grip was good. Topspin ball flying nearly parallel to the table after bounce

Yup, playing with AK47 Blue for almost 6 months now. It lets me put more balls on the table :).

As far as "what's great for someone could be garbage for someone else" - I somewhat agree (level, technique, and playing style matter here), but then it just reinforces my belief that reviews and polls are quite meaningless... 
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Rhyzer 48 is one of the best new era rubber, the best frwshbglue feeling-much better than rasanter, bluestorm,xiom omega vii, evolution...I would vote if for the inovation of the year. 
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This thread contains no useful information whatsoever. 

The only takeaway from this thread is that some rubbers work really well for some people and not others due to difference in techniques. It almost seems like some people really need to work on their techniques because you really shouldn't be struggling with certain type of rubbers.
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