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ThePongProfessor
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Posted: 03/21/2019 at 5:27pm |
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Tibhar has - finally (and probably prompted by the arrival of T05H) - decided to release the 50-degree version of MX-P: http://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/tibhar-evolution-mx-p-50. Should be an interesting rubber.
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Jackcerry
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Wow with 2 Little layers of booster will be the best forehand rubber imo, I’ll surely give it a try. I already use the normal mxp for my backhand
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slevin
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Would be interesting to hear reports on how it differs from MX-S.
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Kolev
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Good question
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How is it different from this one?http://www.prott.vip/Upload/Product/1/EVOLUTION_l.jpg?nocach=739
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polbotinka
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I tried MX-S and it is not a simply harder MX-P. I guess the pimple structure is different and the MX-S catapult is much less. I imagine MX-P 50 will be something like Tenergy 05 hard to Tenergy 05. Btw, looks like MX-P 50 is now the most expensive of all Tibhar rubbers available. |
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Charlie Brown
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Have you guys tried older cheaper rubbers like MarkV...imho they're great again with these newer balls.
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*sigh*
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Kolev
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Aaaa those guys. Simply pathetic
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polbotinka
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I've tried this rubber for 1.5 hour training session.
In short this may be simply described as "MX-P on steroids". The sponge is noticeably harder then ordinary MX-P. May be even slightly heavier. In game it doesn't feel an extremely hard, the feel is pretty the same what you get with MX-P, but yes you can feel it is firmer definitely. The speed is greater than that of MX-P. The spin I believe almost the same, as it is a harder rubber you might get slightly less spin at low power at get the same amount of spin (or may be more ? ) on power shots. The short play is bit more easier, the 50 degree version is less bouncy here. So overall this is still an MX-P rubber that you may call a "National" version. PS> It doesn't remind MX-S as I told before, completely different story. |
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carmelomaf
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I have played the rubber for two sessions, and today I'm going to have the third one.
Much faster and catapult than MXS. Regarding the hardness i would say quite similar |
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tom
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Interesting- maybe I will mount my sheet
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Simon_plays
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Could we see a video of you spinney looping please?
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Hans Regenkurt
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Good to hear these reviews. I am getting mine tomorrow, testing it next week.
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jackwong23
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older cheaper rubbers are great for the new balls ? why is that the case ? |
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notfound123
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how's spin? also, spinwise how's it compared to the T05?
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My impression was that you gain nothing (may be even less if you're not powerful enough) in terms of spin compared to the ordinary MX-P. If you want a T05 comparison then MX-P is often considered slightly less spinnier rubber, I would say the spin is more or less like T80, however in my hands I spin easier with MX-P than with T05 so for me MX-P is better in this aspect. |
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SmackDAT
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Imagine boosting this bad boy
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TT newbie
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Can anyone compare MXP 50° to Vega Tour?
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nv42
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Would be great if someone can compare the service/short game spin and counter looping easecompared to the regularmx-p.
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notfound123
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If anyone here speaks Korean, there is a new video out.
Maybe someone can translate please. |
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Hans Regenkurt
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Mine has arrived. The dimensions and the weight are: 16, 9cm x 17,9 cm an 76 gramms. I am testing it tomorrow. Upon bouncing the ball on it, it seems a little firmer than the regular version but not by much. It is nowhere near a Gewo Nexxus in terms of hardness and springiness. My impression is that it starts lifting the ball earlier than the regular version, making it more suited to forward strokes, something that I missed in the 47 degree version. However, there does not seem to be any revolutionary about it and it has the same smell as the other Evolutions which might not be a good thing. This is my last attempt at the MXP family because the last three sheets I bought did not last more than 1.5 months before they were completely dead so much that even boosting did not help.
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vvk1
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Not trying to nitpick, but Gewo now has XT Pro 50 Hard, EL Pro 53 Hard, EL Pro 50 Hard, XT Pro 48, EL Pro 48 and two softer ones ... - so which Gewo Nexxus did you compare MX-P 50 to?
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Hans Regenkurt
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You are right, I forgot to add the version, I meant the Gewo Nexxus EL Pro 48.
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Kolev
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Very unfortunately, but I share the same experience.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I tested it for 1.5 hours this evening on a Gewo Robles 7 ply OFF blade. It was mainly forehand looping and 2 backhands and then two forehands diagonally into my practice partner's backhand from my BH side of the table. All in all, it is quite a step up from regular MXP and I am convinced that a lot of people who like the regular will not like the 50 degree version. But at the same time, it will be a redemption for those who found the plain version to be lacking something when it came to overpowering the opponent. Hardness: it is noticeably harder than the regular. A comparison that comes to my mind is the Joola Rhyzer Pro 50. The MXP Hard feels just a little more flexible and the topsheet bites the ball better but as I recall, they share similarities. Spin: it comes out differently compared to the regular. Due to the hardness it lifts the ball earlier and does not hold it for so long. Therefore, on slow loops it is enough to do a shorter / more economic stroke and the result will be just as spinny, if not spinnier. So it gains you a little time when playing close to the table. Speed: it is faster than the regular for sure. One of my practice partners described the difference between the regular and the "hard" version as follows: The loops from MXP 50 land a bit closer to the middle of the table and after the bounce they tend to continue downwards while from the regular they bounce sort of upwards and they land closer to the table's end. What I did not like comes from its hardness: it does not bite the ball identically in every situation. In this rescpect, Tenergy is still king. The other is that when at least at 2.5 meters off the table I had to adjust my stroke to avoid the white of the net. To illustrate its hardness / speed: I gave it to somebody who does not have too solid looping technique - plays with Bluefire 2.0 on a Stiga Infinity. He did not manage to hit the ball back with it.He gave it back to my after 1 minute saying that it is good but too hard and fast for him. So to summarise: MXP Hard a good rubber but obviously for those who can handle the increase speed and hardness and the reduced dwell. Those who like the relatively long dwell of the regular MXP and enjoy playing arching loops will probably stay with the regular. The big question is durability, in other words, how long ill it be before the booster goes out and it becomes too hard to use. These are my preliminary thoughts, I will be doing more testing over the weekend and will come back with my new experiences. |
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SmackDAT
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How does it compare to Hurricane 3?
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assam
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Let's hope it can keep the characteristics for 3 months...
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notfound123
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So far looks promising. Just wondering... what's your playing level?
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Hans Regenkurt
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Honestly, I do not know. Judging by the videos I have seen on USATT events, I can safely say that I would be over 1900 but definitely not more than 2100. Most probably around 2000.
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Hans Regenkurt
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It has been several years since I last held a H3 in my hand but they do not seem to have much in common. The MXP Hard behaves like a european rubber. As I recall, I had a few knocks with a H3 Prov 39 degrees sponge. The MXPH would be 37 degrees compared to that. I am playing with it again tomorrow.
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