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Originally posted by hunkeelin hunkeelin wrote:

There's no such thing as no chance in table tennis. Just few years ago malong lost to a 16 years old too. I guess everyone just forgot. All it takes is some luck and off days from Eugene and BAM! upset. 
Last year, Harimoto beat Ma Long on June 10, 2018 at the Japan Open.  His birthday is June 27 so technically he was still 14 years old at the time.

But I don't think Kanak needs luck or an off day from Eugene in order to win.  If and when they do play, I want to see both of them at their best.
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Question related to this Westchester tournament: why the unrated person can join playoff in rating event? 

This person joined six events. He won 1600, 1750, 1900 and in playoff 2000, 2050, 2200..
Do he has international rating? Or the rule changed? 

I think in events, his rating listed as 1530. But official list N/A.

Update: this is not the only one. It seems all 0 rated person can join playoff without any problems.





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There's no such thing as no chance in table tennis. Just few years ago malong lost to a 16 years old too. I guess everyone just forgot. All it takes is some luck and off days from Eugene and BAM! upset. 
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Sorry if a bit off topic, but does anyone know if Kaden Xu is Olympic eligible?  He's been very impressive at the monthly Westchester Open.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 


The fact that the Korean is playing the tournament says much more than his ITTF ranking which I have explained is not a good measure of playing strength for Asians and Europeans.   You have to dig deeper into other data. Let's see how far this Korean gets in the draw. The Korean has to be one of the top players in Korea to be in this event. When you think about it that way, that is closer to top 100 or top 50 strength on the old list.

I can't believe people are still using world rankings to decide whether something was an upset or not.
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Don't know if they will meet at the Pan Am Games.  They should meet at the North American Olympic Trials though I would hope.
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Absolutely agree. 
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

The fact that the Korean is playing the tournament says much more than his ITTF ranking which I have explained is not a good measure of playing strength for Asians and Europeans.   You have to dig deeper into other data. Let's see how far this Korean gets in the draw. The Korean has to be one of the top players in Korea to be in this event. When you think about it that way, that is closer to top 100 or top 50 strength on the old list.
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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 


The fact that the Korean is playing the tournament says much more than his ITTF ranking which I have explained is not a good measure of playing strength for Asians and Europeans.   You have to dig deeper into other data. Let's see how far this Korean gets in the draw. The Korean has to be one of the top players in Korea to be in this event. When you think about it that way, that is closer to top 100 or top 50 strength on the old list.


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Funny. I checked this game. Eugene didn't play. The result is WO.

Please find something else.
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2018 - ITTF Panam Championships, Santiago (CHI)
    JHA Kanak (USA) vs. WANG Eugene (CAN) Men's Singles   R16  4   0   JHA Kanak
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
You're comparing a US local Westchester Open to an ITTF Platinum Tour China Open.  Eugene also lost to Jishan Liang at the Cary Cup.  He also lost to Kaden Xu at Westchester Open in January.  So he's not unbeatable in North America.
Just found this searching Kanak's ITTF matches:

2018 - ITTF Panam Championships, Santiago (CHI)
    JHA Kanak (USA) vs. WANG Eugene (CAN) Men's Singles   R16  4   0   JHA Kanak

Eugene defaulted. 
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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

I bet you didn't watch his game onsite in three times. I am in Cary cup. He called out injury in the game vs Jishan after win 2-1. Jishan has no match to him. I saw they are practicing together before the game. I also watched some of yesterday's games onsite. He is crushing every opponent. I didn't watch Kaden's match in Jan. I think that might mean something. In general, I hope kanak can won. But based on what I have seen so far, he has no chance at al. 

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
You're comparing a US local Westchester Open to an ITTF Platinum Tour China Open.  Eugene also lost to Jishan Liang at the Cary Cup.  He also lost to Kaden Xu at Westchester Open in January.  So he's not unbeatable in North America.
You're sadly mistaken Wink
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Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
You're comparing a US local Westchester Open to an ITTF Platinum Tour China Open.  Eugene also lost to Jishan Liang at the Cary Cup.  He also lost to Kaden Xu at Westchester Open in January.  So he's not unbeatable in North America.
Just found this searching Kanak's ITTF matches:

2018 - ITTF Panam Championships, Santiago (CHI)
    JHA Kanak (USA) vs. WANG Eugene (CAN) Men's Singles   R16  4   0   JHA Kanak
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I bet you didn't watch his game onsite in three times. I am in Cary cup. He called out injury in the game vs Jishan after win 2-1. Jishan has no match to him. I saw they are practicing together before the game. I also watched some of yesterday's games onsite. He is crushing every opponent. I didn't watch Kaden's match in Jan. I think that might mean something. In general, I hope kanak can won. But based on what I have seen so far, he has no chance at al. 

Originally posted by pongfugrasshopper pongfugrasshopper wrote:

Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
You're comparing a US local Westchester Open to an ITTF Platinum Tour China Open.  Eugene also lost to Jishan Liang at the Cary Cup.  He also lost to Kaden Xu at Westchester Open in January.  So he's not unbeatable in North America.


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Originally posted by mentortt mentortt wrote:

Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
You're comparing a US local Westchester Open to an ITTF Platinum Tour China Open.  Eugene also lost to Jishan Liang at the Cary Cup.  He also lost to Kaden Xu at Westchester Open in January.  So he's not unbeatable in North America.
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Kanak just lost ITTF rank 264 korean today. He has a long way to go. Based on USATT record, Eugene and Kanak never meet each other in US. But from WTTC in the weekend, Eugene won everything so easy and no challenge at all. 
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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by Slowhand Slowhand wrote:

Still waiting for Eugene vs Kanak.
My money is on Eugene.
I think it would be close, but I think Kanak would win.
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Originally posted by Slowhand Slowhand wrote:

Still waiting for Eugene vs Kanak.
My money is on Eugene.
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Still waiting for Eugene vs Kanak.
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