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NextLevel
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Yes. Nothing you post remotely squares with this. A 2200 player doesn't behave like they don't seriously understand the differences between Chinese Rubber and Tenergy as if they have never played with someone who uses them before. In fact, you don't get to 2200 and try Hurricane for the first time as if it is a revelation after 10 years. Most people form an opinion after looping with it for 5 minutes using s peel someone else's bat and some invests some don't. And just about everyone at 2200 has lost to enough people using Hurricane at every level that they know it is a matter of taste like Coke vs Pepsi. It is probably humorous trolling but it isn't even igorponger level colorful. So what is the point? You need to up your game.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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pingpungpeng
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please point to where I said that this is the first time I try h3.
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tom
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I see people ganging up on PPP for some reason-want to help but can't - never used t-88I nor an unboosted H3 variant.
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NextLevel
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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pingpungpeng
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you assumed wrong. I used h3 for a long time. I also used boosted h3 for a long time. around 5 years ago I stopped using h3. I picked it up now again. in the beginning I thought it was ok, since I had nothing similar to compare it to. then I used sanwei t88-I. then I made this thread. then the usual bullies started throwing hate. I don't see what's the big deal, why people try to shut me up so much. I don't see you trying to shut up user "mjamja" and his usual threads "today I went kayaking for 2 hours, then made shadow movements for 3 hours in the mountains, then played matches with the cleaning lady and then went to sleep to my trailer".
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NextLevel
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If you want to compare yourself to mjamja, don't quit your day job. He is far funnier and more humble than you are. Also very upfront about who he is.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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pingpungpeng
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to me mjamja is what I am to you. the only difference is I know self control. I remain silent and let him enjoy his threads and his posts.
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pingpungpeng
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stop trying to make me look like "the young guy full of energy who needs to learn a lesson from nextlevel, fatt, mjamja and so on....". I'm not young. I'm not full of energy. I don't need lessons. actually referring to an old person as a little kid is an insult, without the need to use insulting words.
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nv42
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H3 national unboosted does feel like the toughest and least-rewarding h3 to use without booster. Compared to that, a t-88 and many other products from other Chinese manufacturers may feel like a better rubber to many because of its ease of use. Regular h3 (non - neo) does feel like the best h3 to use without booster. This is completely my personal opinion, plenty of people I play with who disagree, depends on play style.
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chop4ever
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Unfortunately I have to say that you are using the "other" H3. It is common in here but not the H3 is using in China.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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Kolev
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In matter of fact, I haven't seen yet a player, amateur or a pro who creates the same or nearly the same speed as our favourites from CNT. I know few guys who are using it quite successfully but all they do is kind of g ood spin , or sort of wicked balls. ...yeah and of course really spiny serves.
For most of us that is not good enough
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fmarek
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I agree. This thread is useful for me too. For example, I am interested in those posts clearly stating why people don't like H3, I mean the reason. Also it would help to know what blade and glue used. H3 is a very good product given it's price range. It does what is was made for perfectly well. I just recently worn out a sheet of black H3 purchased from tt11 (100hrs of play) and out of curiosity trying to find something what works better. By "better" I mean something as dangerous in strong loops and reliable producing spinny balls but with higher margin for errors. As a replacement I tried these: - YINHE Mercury II (MH and Hard) - Reactor Thunder (MH) - 729 08-ES (H47) - Double Fish QIJI (Hard) - Sanwei Target National Few more are in the line to try but to my surprise none of them are nearly close to H3. Some have silly high through, some just linear or not so much spinny. H3 is demanding. Have to admit that during my first 60 hours of use I was not happy. I felt just Ok. The reason was I had bad time finding a proper brushing angle. But then between 60 - 70 something "clicked" and I understood how to deal with it. It is very likely that I will come back to H3 and stick to it. Unless some one suggests more rubbers to try I only have left Yinhe Jupiter 2 on my list.
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pingpungpeng
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I suggest you try sanwei t88-I.
also 729 battle II seems good, even though I haven't used it. if you like something a bit more euro I suggest palio cj8000. this is if you don't boost. if you boost h3 is great. someone asked what blade I use. been using tibhar lebesson for some time.
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fmarek
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I'd boost just to understand. Could you describe the difference. Based on what I gathered in the Internet boosted H3 sort "more lively" but I've no idea what that means. Also how much of falco long term booster you would recommend to use?
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By boosting your rubber won't feel like a brick and will be easier to use right off the bat. You can apply 2-3 layers of FTL booster.
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fmarek
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Which aspect of the game becomes easier? 2-3 layers will make it very fast I guess .. ?
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pingpungpeng
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There are many boosters and methods of boosting. Depending how you boost the rubber could become faster than a tenergy. But it only lasts for some time and if the rubber domes too much you have the problem of sticking it to the blade. Myself I only play once a week now, so no incentive to boost. |
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pingpungpeng
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Today played a couple of matches with h3 again. It's not sooooo oooooo oooooo oooooo o o o terrible It's actually pretty decent. Here's a pic of the 2nd racket I used today It's not stiga, it's satiga!!!
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chop4ever
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pay postage for me, then I will throw to you some 2nd H3 which could change your view.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
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pingpungpeng
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ok what kind of h3 do you have?
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chop4ever
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As I said before somewhere. I have only ordinarily humble H3, nothing special.
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There is no real "pro", "prov" or "NT" H3 in the market.
Falco is not a booster |
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pingpungpeng
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the one in the pic is white package national h3
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bard romance
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It would be far more beneficial to you to know who the poster behind such threads are, and what they play like, rather than what blade or glue was used by said person, to derive any conclusions from the post. But more often than not such posts come from people who give zero context about their game or capabilities on the table. You are left to extrapolate, and if you don't understand what kind of players tend to make what kind of posts, you may come to unfounded conclusions. But I think I, and posters like NextLevel, have gone into this in enough depth at this point, so to each their own. I rest my case on the following note, only a few days since the original posting of this thread...
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NextLevel
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bard romance,
Pingpungpeng has compared his posting style to that of mjamja. While i don't think the quality of humor or content is close, I think that admission is sufficient for anyone to decide whether he is worth reading for anything other than potential entertainment.
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I like putting heavy topspin on the ball...
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pingpungpeng
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The Satiga has a one ply core.... Not even butterfly gives you this kind of treatment!!!
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mjamja
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Pingpungpeng wrote,
"I don't see you trying to shut up user "mjamja" and his usual threads "today I went kayaking for 2 hours, then made shadow movements for 3 hours in the mountains, then played matches with the cleaning lady and then went to sleep to my trailer"". Video to come soon. Maybe you guys can analyze my sleep shadow stroking (its like sleepwalking) and tell what is really wrong with my game and with me. That cleaning lady was an ex-provincial player from China who wiped me off the table like she was mopping dirt off the floor. Mark
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