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    Posted: 06/11/2019 at 12:50pm
Can someone give me a comparison in control, speed, spin, deception (sink ball) and weight of these 2 pip rubbers?

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I used Killer for a while. It's a cool pip. It hits like an SP, but with MP funkiness and better control. I found the 1.5mm the best thickness. I bought two. Selling one cheap if anyone's interested. Explosion is also known to be good. Never tried Victas 101; however, I'm using VS-401 and loving it.
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imho killer is too difficult to master for standard short pip players. I know only one player who is using it succesfully on a high level but he plays it like it's a long pip using chop blocks and side swipes.

If you want a funky short pip stick with tibhar speedy soft dtecs.
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Is the killer pips not very grippy and quite long for a short pips?
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Originally posted by bokai bokai wrote:

Can someone give me a comparison in control, speed, spin, deception (sink ball) and weight of these 2 pip rubbers?

THanks!

Killer or killer.pro?
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just killer. Pro too hard sponge.
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Originally posted by bokai bokai wrote:

just killer. Pro too hard sponge.

Do they have same topsheet?
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I believe they do but the sponge hardness' r different thats all
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Killer and Victas 101 are nothing alike! Killer is more like a MP and is difficult to control.  My friend played with it for a while and had a couple of good wins, but he also had some terrible losses because he couldn't control it very well.
He went back to Victas 101 in 1.8 mm and played much better. Victas 101 is a short pip that has a fairly low trajectory and is good for blocking.  I've also played with the new Explosion and it's not bad, but I like the Victas rubbers better.  Another very good SP is Materialspezialist Fire Storm.  This rubber blocks and attacks well and can do just about everything.  

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Hey Dave,

If you like the Firestorm. you would really like the new Firestorm Soft version.
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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

Killer and Victas 101 are nothing alike! Killer is more like a MP and is difficult to control.  My friend played with it for a while and had a couple of good wins, but he also had some terrible losses because he couldn't control it very well.
He went back to Victas 101 in 1.8 mm and played much better. Victas 101 is a short pip that has a fairly low trajectory and is good for blocking.  I've also played with the new Explosion and it's not bad, but I like the Victas rubbers better.  Another very good SP is Materialspezialist Fire Storm.  This rubber blocks and attacks well and can do just about everything.  

Best of luck

Thanks for the advice! Do you know a pip that is similar too 101? 
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