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ultraspin98
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Posted: 12/31/2019 at 11:16am |
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Nittaku hurricane 3 turbo blue arrived yesterday, its weight is incredible 91.5g!!
I will try it as soon as possible, I'm very curious to find out how this rubber perform |
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ultraspin98
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I've bought one nittaku hurricane 3 turbo blue from TT11. It's on sale right now.
Since I' using H8, I will give you another point of view about these 2 rubbers |
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mykonos96
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Sarah de nutte from luxemburg also plays with H3 both sides
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ProtossTT
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No simply stating the obvious and didn't think it was this bad until I tried it 4 years ago. Tried it again recently and got ripped off hoping I'd have more luck. I don't buy from different vendors unless I have to. Tt11, prott.vip, and DHS factory in Shanghai is where I get it from.
Used to use prott but now tt11 has proven customer service but if something goes wrong with another seller I'm sh** out of luck. Tt11 has been great to me and only has been nothing but great. Any issues get sorted out right away. DHS Shanghai factory or the headquarters I get from every winter from my friends who visit back home. So they just buy it there for alittle cheaper than fly back to USA with it. I have had 1 shitty rubber of h3 neo blue sponge provincial/national 40-42 degrees. I have bought a total of 40+ and sold 5 but I did the assembly for the people who bought it since I'm quite precise at gluing now. As for bubbling from boosting I haven't ran into those yet thankfully. I do practice and play alot so the rubbers definitely hold up. One year going strong for someone who got it from me and still loads of spin. But for the time being I have officially switched to the new tibhar nexy developed mx-k and mx-k hard!!!
Edited by ProtossTT - 12/19/2019 at 10:24pm |
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icontek
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Sounds like you are new to DHS reputation for outstanding variety. If you want to play Hurricane Roulette, try ordering the same version of H3 from 5 different suppliers and compare sheets.
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Fulanodetal
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Yes, I believe Kasumi Ishikawa also uses H3 BS. Don't know if it's the DHS or the Nittaku version though. Shes been using it for a while now. FdT
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ProtossTT
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They have access to h3 blue sponge from dhs. They have a long relationship with each other.
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ultraspin98
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Damm I'm still pretty interested in this rubber.
I've seen that Hitomi Sato Is playing with a blu sponge rubber on the forehand since she is sponsored by nittaku, do you think that she is using the NH3TB? |
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Hozuki
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What are you confused about? It's the hardest rubber on the market, boost it heavily and constantly hit it hard with perfect technique and then it's great. No rubber will give you more speed and spin in that case. But what if floor is dusty? No proper weight transfer, possible, no recovery, it becomes trash. What if humidity is high? brushing stroke against dead ball, it slips, no sponge engagement due to extreme hardness, again it becomes trash. You don't even need to have played with the rubber, it's 60 degrees, and hence you already know what to expect. Comparing this with regular Hurricane 3 39 degree is like comparing T05fx to T05 hard (same 10 degree hardness difference). It's foolish. |
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ProtossTT
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One thing about h8 is the quality control sucks. I tried out 10 different sheets and only one of them were good. The rest were defective and have no tack. H8 is a fine rubber when it works but I cannot play a game of chance. H3 neo is far superior boosted and unboosted.
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DreiZ
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I’ve never tried NHTB, but i have been using H8 (Unboosted) on the same blade as h3 neo comm (boosted and unboosted) and h8 feels like it has a slightly more flexible top sheet, I guess more elastic. I wouldn’t call it having a booster effect though. It feels like a boosted h3 neo after a month or two w/ booster effect worn off. Not bad but nothing extraordinary. Quality seems better than comm h3 neo. Top sheet was nice and tacky when new.
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serr
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I'm very confused from these reviews. Where does the truth lie?
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Leftstudio
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Yes I mean the H3 Nittaku Blue
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ThePongProfessor
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Leftstudio: Just to make sure - Are you referring to the Turbo Blue or the older Nittaku Hurricane 3 (also not the Turbo Orange).
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Leftstudio
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Coming from a player (USATT 2150) who has been using H3 for the last 3 years with 5 nights a week of playing, I would say the H3 Nittaku is a weird/ interesting product. Super hard, need to be boosted and i mean you have to really boost to get the best out of it. I used the H3 Nittaku for 3 months with boosting every 2 weeks and the rubber, unfortunately when the booster dies out, becomes dead like a brick and return to the beginning hardness which is incredible for a "H3" product. The topsheet, regardless advertised as DHS H3 topsheet, is totally different from the classic H3 topsheet. It is not tacky, sticky and spin is way less than the cheapest H3.
One strength of the H3 Nittaku is the speed - really great and consistent but playing with H3 you’ll want spin because it is the rubber's signature. When i switched back to classic H3, my FH shots immediately become deadly and my partner found it much harder to return due to the low arc. From now on, I would only use the H3 Nittaku for multiball feeding because it's very good for that (hard and consistent for short stroke). I wish the H3 had the hardness of H3 Nittaku for boosting purposes. Classic H3 gets softer and softer until it becomes trash.
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ThePongProfessor
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Having used both rubbers extensively, I disagree with pretty much everything in this analysis (I mean no disrespect), but that's ok. How a rubber feels and suits a particular players' game is subjective. For my FH, the NHTB is an absolutely beast with respect to spin, speed and control (and I use it "not-additionally-boosted", because it comes heavily boosted from the factory). The two main reasons which would discourage me from using it as my main rubber are 1) its weight, and 2) the fact that it, indeed, becomes more dead and much harder to play with once the booster effect vanishes after ~1.5-2 months of play.
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Hozuki
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It's a reasonable assessment. IMO this rubber was made to be heavily boosted and then still constantly hit very hard with perfect chinese technique. Then it probably hits like a truck. Otherwise it's a toothless tiger.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I have concluded testing the Nittaku H3TB and H8 and the outcome is some disillusionment regarding the blue sponged Nittaku H3. I have tried it on three different blades and I asked 4-5 fellow players to give it a go. As I said at the beginning of the thread, I found the unboosted NH3TB to be rather useless for higher level play (=if you are skilled enough to topspin from both sides with reasonable speed and your game is not based on lobbing and pushing, waiting for your opponent to miss) and therefore I decided to boost the rubber. The H8 got the same amount of booster. As I put the two rubbers on different blades I noticed that while the H8 retained the boosting effect very well, the Nittaku H3 lost it in direct proportion to the degree the dome subsided. The magic went away unfortunately. Yesterday it ended up being just as hard as it was in the beginning and it was very slow and spinless. The H8 was still going strong. I see the following differences between the two: the H8 starts lifting the ball sooner and the trajectory of loops is a little longer and flatter than NH3TB. The NH3TB does not release the ball as fast and as a result, longer strokes are required. Loops travel a little higher over the net but dip a little lower after the bounce. This quality went away as the dome went down. My conclusion is that the NH3TB is a rubber that needs some hardcore boosting to work properly. In that state I can imagine that it might have an edge over a boosted H8 but given the amount of booster to be used and its price I think it is more economical to go with a H8 or even H3 Neo provincial and you will get the same results. Another thing is that the Nittaku seems to lose the effect of booster much quicker than the H8. In summary, I do not think the NH3TB is as special as the halo effect around it may suggest. For players who do not boost I think there are plenty of cheaper Chinese rubbers with a similar performance. For those of us who boost, the H8 is clearly a more cost effective alternative of the two. If somebody finds H8 very spinny there will not be any extra benefits to Nittaku's H3. In the future I might boost NH3TB to see what happens if I glue it on when it really curls.
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Hans Regenkurt
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I think you had better not buy NH3TB, it is simply not worth it.
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ultraspin98
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I will wait for your review. Now I'm using h8 and it has crazy spin, I was considering to buy NH3TB |
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achoomai
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Another rubber that may worth to compare
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My feedback : http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=58844&PN=1#726094
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Hans Regenkurt
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I put them on a Yasaka Sweden Guardian before putting them on offensive blades. The result was the same, that is, the Nittaku H3 was spinnier and loops from it had more arch compared to the H8.
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Hans Regenkurt
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It is pretty much how I would describe the rubber when untuned.
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Fulanodetal
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Hozuki....how long did you actually use Nittakku Hurricane 3Turbo Blue for?
I think you are exaggerating in your assessment.
After 2 weeks the sponge soften a little and it feels pretty good. I've been using it since earlier this year. I have no complaints. Feels pretty close to the DHS version. FdT |
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Hozuki
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I took a look at some more japanese reviews of NH3TB and the general opinion is that the rubber is crazy hard, you need to loopdrive hard on every ball or the ball isn't spinny or fast, control is very dependent on your technique, and it's super spin sensitive. Not good for short strokes or passive play.
So like I said before, this rubber is unsuitable for around 95% of players. One can only utilize it well, if he has good footwork, weight transfer, a young and strong body, experience with chinese rubbers, very efficient and powerful strokes, and lots of stamina.
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Fulanodetal
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I would try both rubbers on the same blade to eliminate that factor in your experiment.
FdT
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Hans Regenkurt
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Update from today's session: both the H8 and the Nittaku Hurricane was boosted with 3 layers of Falco Long a week ago. I glued them on yesterday and took them to today's training. The was still a considerable dome on both of them so I will take them off and reglue them in the coming days. Here are my impressions from today, tested with Joola Flash: boosting had a good effect on the Nittaku H3. The behaviour inconsistencies went away and I got a rubber that is significantly more reliable than when unboosted. Loops executed from maximum 2 meters away had very good spin and a low but safe arc over the net. Any loops from further than 2 meters carry the risk of going into the net. It is still doable but needs more attention. Interestingly, prior to today's test I would have guessed that I would like the H8 more but I turned out to be completely wrong. The H8 is less in terms of speed and spin. The Nittaku H3 was on a Gewo Robles 7 ply blade, the H8 was on a Mizuno Fortius FT. I am giving the rubbers another go during next week after regluing them. In brief: Spin: NH3TB > H8 Speed: NH3TB > H8 Control is better on the Nittaku too. A word of caution about the Nittaku: it is not easy to use, even when boosted (neither is the H8). I would warn anyone against believing that it is a rubber that is brand new technology and it can yield better results than most European tensors or Tenergy. It is a quality H3 and that is all. The price from TT11 if you have the 25% discount is very reasonable and at that price I would and possibly will buy it again. I am going to test it with Nittaku Premium balls next week.
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hunkeelin
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don't use h3 turbo blue, it's a brick and it's heavy as well.
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Hozuki
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I agree with topspinschuss. All valid and important considerations.
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topspinschuss
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By the way...2-3 layers are more than enough. Don't overboost trying to get the same speed from a chinese rubber as you would from a Mx-p. You *will* get the same speed and more spin and control once you adjust your technique. Otherwise you'll just keep your old technique, lose control due to overboosting/excessive speed and then just come to the conclusion that Chinese rubber "sucks."
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