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Nittaku Sonic AR |
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ChichoFicho
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Posted: 05/28/2020 at 7:55am |
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Nittaku are selling a new short pips rubber Sonic AR. It looks like a substitution for Hammond FA Speed which was discontinued and which was the best short pips rubber I have come accross.
Can anyone make a review of Sonic AR?
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Darker Speed 70
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Skyline
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I was also interested and found these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqRyzTtymks
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mykonos96
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I think its a Hammond FA upgrade
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ChichoFicho
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Thanks. Has anybody tried the rubber? Getting a sheet of it is really hard as it is only available in Japan and only at few shops.
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Darker Speed 70
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TT-Japan still having Hammond FA in its webpage; in various thickness.
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ChichoFicho
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Up!!
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Darker Speed 70
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mykonos96
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Pips are more separated than moristo must be disturbing for the opponent
Edited by mykonos96 - 06/19/2020 at 12:12pm |
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ChichoFicho
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I managed to get 2 sheets of Sonic AR in max. It is very similar to Hammond FA Speed but a bit less disturbing for the opponent. Anyway, it is still the best short pips rubber on the market for hitting and blocking.
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Darker Speed 70
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mykonos96
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what about the control compared to moristo?
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ThePongProfessor
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I will be reviewing them in the weeks to come.
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ChichoFicho
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It has better control on blocks and hits.
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Sedis
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I tried this out in 1.8mm today.
It has a lot in common with TSP Spectol Blue. Despite TSP listing Spectol Blue at 43±3° Japanese sponge hardness and Nittaku listing this at 32.5°, I measured them at 43 and 44° Shore O respectively, so I think the TSP listing is an error. The Nittaku feels very slightly harder in use, possibly the top sheet is also slightly harder. The speed is very similar, possibly a fraction faster. The top sheet has a slightly glossier appearance, which I thought might mean they were slightly less grippy and more deceptive, but this does not appear to be the case. They seem to have a very slightly lower throw than Spectol Blue, I found them very good for blocking and hitting, potentially even better than the Spectol, but a little worse for pushing and chopping, but there is not a great deal in it. |
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mykonos96
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What about the control? Its easy to open with a loop? .because it took me sometime to use blue
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Sedis
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About the same in this respect. I was expecting it to be slightly more difficult, due to the appearance of the top sheet, but it is very similar.
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mykonos96
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Blue doesnt make the ball sink when you block. The same happens to sonic ?
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Sedis
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Yes, very similar in that respect. The main difference seems to be a slightly harder topsheet, which seems to give a fraction faster, slightly lower trajectory shot when hitting, but also makes it slightly harder to control short pushes and touch shots. I am going to try it a few more times, it may break in a little. As it stands I have a slight preference for the Spectol Blue.
Edited by Sedis - 09/08/2020 at 6:36am |
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its interesting that there s more space between pips that oher pips maybe more than spectol, I hope the sponge is not so brittle as beautry, I like this pip but wasnt very long lasting since sponge was tearing apart everytime I removed the glue |
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