Victas V11 Extra review

I consider myself a lower-level intermediate player.

Victas V11 Extra, black, max. 43g glued to Stiga Allround WRB. Practiced with robot and regular partner, for a total of four hours. On the forehand of my left hand.

I can only compare to Xiom Vega Europe and Yasaka Rakza 7 Soft (about the same weight), and Andro Rasant Grip (5g heavier, discontinued).

Spin on serves: Rasant Grip = Rakza 7 Soft = V11E > Vega Europe
throw: V11E = Rakza 7 Soft > Rasant Grip = Vega Europe
close-to-table counters: all have good control, with speed: Rasant Grip = V11E > Rakza 7 Soft = Vega Europe
pushes: Rasant Grip = V11E, easier to do than the bouncier Vega Europe.
blocks: Here Rasant Grip is the best. The higher throw of V11E makes it harder to deal with topspin. Vega Europe suffers vs fast balls. Rakza 7 Soft is the hardest to use.
Loops vs block: like Rasant Grip, faster than Vega Europe and Rakza 7 Soft and not less spiny.
Loops vs higher long balls. V11E and Rasant Grip allow me to loop more backspin than Vega Europe. I can repeat loop vs medium pips blocks.
Loops vs low low-spin pushes and serves: here I struggled and need much better technique. I could loop better with Vega Europe and Rasant Grip. V11E requires a more forward motion and I am scared of hitting the table.
Mid-distance: about the same as Vega Europe and Rasant Grip.
Smash: no worse than any.
Flicks: I cannot do FH flicks.

For my level, Rasant Grip would be best but too heavy and discontinued. I do plan to keep Victas V11 Extra over Vega Europe for the crispier counters, and easier short game. I do need to adapt to its higher throw.

Also, I see no benefit other than price of Rakza 7 Soft over V11E.

When did you watch the video?

Edited by trumpet_guy - 10/14/2020 at 9:33pm

trumpet_guy wrote: There is a nice evaluation of V>11 Extra by Kenji Matsudaira (English subtitles).  He’s an excellent player and demonstrates how he tests a rubber.  The rubber is also compared against V>15 Extra (the red sheet) https://youtu.be/GD8xUg1yvn4

Could not resist the sale at TT11 and ordered a pair, to try to replace my Vega Europe.

Eric Fountain wrote: I haven't noticed that either. Sounds like they ruined it by boosting a rubber that doesn't need boosting. V11 is nice by the way. People will especially like it on BH but I find it good on FH too. Easy to recommend if you want something modern but light.

I haven't noticed that either. Sounds like they ruined it by boosting a rubber that doesn't need boosting. V11 is nice by the way. People will especially like it on BH but I find it good on FH too. Easy to recommend if you want something modern but light.

Sedis wrote: I tried a sheet of V11 Extra in 2.0mm on a spare blade last night, as the lighter weight is very attractive to me. I can make some comparisons to the Andro Hexer Powergrip I had on my regular set up and Tibhar MXP which I was using previously. Speed wise, it is still fairly fast despite the lighter weight, ≥ Andro Hexer Powergrip in 2.1mm. Initially I found shots going a little long, but I think this was more to do with the trajectory than a significant increase in speed I measured the sponge hardness at 48° Shore O, which is just a touch harder than the result I got for Andro Hexer Powergrip, unsurprisingly they feel very similar to play with in that regard. Both feel very slightly softer than MXP. In terms of the bite or grab of the topsheet, it sort of sits halfway between the recent thinner type top sheets and more traditional ones. It was certainly very easy to generate my own spin with, I didn't find it quite as easy to lift backspin with compared to Hexer PG, but that could just be down to adjusting to the rubber. Overall I think this rubber has an enormous amount of potential for people wanting high performance but lightweight rubbers, it will be interesting to see how well it lasts, but recent ESN rubbers seem to have been quite good in that regard, so hopefully this will be the same.

joola did the work with rhyzer 48. Perfect durability and good performance. Joola open USA market and they rise their prices so maybe they know if they invest in ESN company they will have the best quality so this is win-win situation..  

nv42 wrote: Perfect! Thats a good comparison, exactly what I was looking for.  Glad to see that the new joola agr and the victas v11 have better topsheets compared to the last gen, those thin soft topsheets dint enable much on softer brushier shots. Also, I quite like how the gewo nexxus 53H plays compared to most of the older thin topsheet tensors I've tried, would you say the agr and v11 have similar or better topsheets overall? ( particularly for brushy strokes).

just tried v15e 2.0 on jsk blade with light long pips on bh; it did not seem to have enuf power when i am backed away from table as compared to t5, am i suppose to boost v15e

So is the v11 similar to the latest gen thin topsheet rubbers? 

Pulled from one of the video comments:

Thank you very much!