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benjy55
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Posted: 12/13/2006 at 10:46am |
Just wondering how do you get the variation when chopping with long pimples. I can get the underspin but i dont know how to get the no spin while doing a chopping stroke. Any help would be appriciated.
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sluskas
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you push the topsin hahah
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varghesep
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From my knowldge, I don't think you can generate 'no spin' with chops - chops are underspin.
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celeronx
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You need to chop really fast so the time of the ball on the pimples is minimum, or atleast I read this somewhere, better try it out..
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ttkenny
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You can produce a no spin chop by changing the angle and where you touch the ball on your racket. To keep it deceptive, you keep the same stroke as though you are following through with a heavy chop. This kind of ball is usually referred to as a float ball.
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pingpongpaddy
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Kenny you are absolutely right if you are chopping with inverted or sp. Float ball is the beautiful skill of normal rubber choppers. However with Lp your spin is mostly from your opps shot. This is the big weakness of LP. However A very fast swing with LP can help to put chop on the ball. Basically you can spin with LP when the pimps bend back all the way to the rubber, and this is usually when opp plays power shot. |
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ryu seungminfan
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yeah, the only time u can produce no spin with lp is only when opponent's ball has no spin. u can produce no spin with short pips or medium pips
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TT_Freak
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It is possible, but only with softer long pips that can rob the ball of its spin.
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benjy55
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ive got soft long pips but in still unsure of how to do it
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TT_Freak
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Instead of chopping the ball to go with the spin either flat hit it or chop sideways.
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sluskas
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or you must be very "klassik" and return the ball but thats difficult hahaha
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kollins
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I dont mean to pick on you rsmfan(as most people posting dont make solid points) but this is completly not true! I feel like you people have no idea what youre talking about and just repeat what you have heard from other people. Its just much more difficult to do. you can "glass" the ball by swinger faster farther underneath the ball. not letting the sides of the pips touch the ball. you can do a normal chopping stroke while moving your body forward and really let the ball sink into the pips. Variation and making no spin balls from topspin balls is very possible! just not as easy as with shorter pips. One of the reasons most LP players dont mention this a lot is because we dont use that tactic that much. Its just not effective. Maximum underspin is the name of the game. It is the fundemintal difference between those chinese short pip choppers and LP choppers. variation vs strength(spin) |
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li jia wei
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long pimples only produce downspin and it only follows the amount of spin made on the ball by the opponent.
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kollins
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I give up
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cmugica
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Normal long pinples can produce a no spin ball of a top spin, also chop of a chop ball. Dr Neubauer or Halmark can't. -Carlos. |
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ryu seungminfan
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if maximum underspin is the 'name' of the game joo se hyuk would be one of the hardest chopper to defeat. hou yingchao has lots of different spin variation that's why he's hard to defeat
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