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H3 etc type rubbers are pretty well designed to be boosted/old style speed glued to get good performance out of them otherwise they are a bit brick like....  . 09C gives a nice feel and also I guess when boosted is pretty quick as well. That's why the more serious players are using it boosted I would hazzard a guess. Good rubber but $$$$'s or ££££'s depending where you are in the world!
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Posted: 01/04/2021 at 6:43am |
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Yeah that's true in general...
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Posted: 01/04/2021 at 12:22am |
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it's usually pretty safe to say that when any competent player is talking about playing with H3 they are talking about it being boosted
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Edit: yeah you're comparing it to boosted H3, I agree that D09c is not as good as boosted H3, but it comes quite close imo.... And I feel it has advantages in mid distance even compared to boosted H3 thanks to the spring sponge.
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Finally got a change play with D09C max, I can say it’s easy to play with, open loop is effortless, but for those who think it’s spinner the H3 it’s not , since I play a all around game with P1 on my BH , I think I’m going back to H3 just because of the cost factor.
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Hi, Having recently watched the skyrocketing Anton Kallberg, methinks he will promote the selling of a very large number of sheets of Tenergy 05. Perhaps in the Butterfly rubber product spectrum there remains a viable position for Tenergy 05 Hard, however it now appears that Tenergy 05 Hard was an excellent stepping stone into the future, not a flagship entry. The superiority of the Dignics top sheet, coupled with the nearly-as-hard sponge of Dignics 09c when compared to Tenergy 05 Hard, makes the selection of Dignics 09c supported by a very compelling argument when considering the Butterfly options in the harder-sponge category. Everything listed here - Tenergy 05 Hard, Dignics 05, and Dignics 09c - possess very distinct playing characteristics from Tenergy 05, of such a variance as to require an accompanying desire to have a different feel and playing experience as to that which Tenergy 05 presents. Thanks.
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Hi guys,
Being a current user of T05 (on a TB Spirit), I'm considering stepping up to either T05 hard or Dignics 09c. Can you share your experience if you've had an opportunity to try both?
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Forgot to add: I used to be the world foremost equipment junkie, but eventually gave that up and went back to Butterfly. I could play just fine with hard and spinny ESN rubbers, but I did not like the lifetime (Butterfly rubbers actually cost me less in the long term and I have to mess with them less), so I went T05 BH and T05H FH, then D05 both sides when it came out. D05 was close to perfect, but one thing I could not do as well with Butterfly rubbers that I could do with spinny ESN rubbers was service. Not sure why, probably something to do with my contact. D09C gave me my serve back, which in turn made my third ball attack more effective. FH is generally a less consistent side for me, so all I need is spin. I either push heavy or loop heavy on the FH. There is not much else happening there.
I play with a fast and heavy blade and I generally have no issues generating power, so D09C seems to work well for me. ILya
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Yep the spin is what really got my hooked
 it really never tops out and is so linear, you can feel so comfortable using almost 100% of your strength and be confident that it's gonna land onto the table thanks to the spin. |
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I switched to 09C on the FH, but my play time has been limited due to the whole COVID-19 situation. So far I like it quite a bit. I brush the ball a lot, so the topsheet grip is really helpful for me. Blocking is not my strong suit, but it feels controllable there. Serving and pushing are very good.
The biggest thing is the spin. It never tops out and the harder I swing the more spin I get. ILya
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Don't see why it wouldn't work... |
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Posted: 12/30/2020 at 3:06pm |
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would you say D09C works better with a harder blade ?
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Yes you need to engage the body when you loop with Dignics 09c or the ball is gonna be weak af... But it's kinda good in terms of honing your skills coz it punishes you when you play strokes in a bad way, so you can quickly iterate to find the best strokes. In particular if you don't engage the hips and legs properly you're gonna struggle, if you engaged them properly (and moved towards the ball and stay low), it's gonna reward you with the spinniest and most powerful loops you can ever generate. But when you're not feeling 100% physically it's gonna place a toll on you.
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i just love dignics 09C on forehand, it’s close to a perfect rubber for me...flicks are absurd, lot of control and spin during topspins and good on serve...only weakness is that like any other hard rubber you need energy from the body.
I dont consider it as a real weakness, i think i play with more confidence than tenergy that is just too bouncy.
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The topsheet of 09C feels softer compared to Hurricane, and as others have mentioned, the sponge of the 09C is a lot more lively compared to Hurricane.
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Posted: 12/29/2020 at 10:19pm |
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Similar, but not the exact same. H3 still feels a little more solid and stronger on hard loops compared to 09c
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Yeah it's very similar imo. I love the hurricane feel, which is why I went to 09c rather than 05.
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Thank you, I love the feel of a boosted /tune H3 , so I would have the same feel with the D09C ?
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don't think you need to boost 09c. still easier to play with than H3 but a good sheet of H3 boosted still has a higher power ceiling
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No need, it already plays like a boosted H3 haha...
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should I boost the 09C like I do with my H3??
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I haven't used 09c myself, but I imagine they're relatively similar other than the spring sponge vs the ESN sponge.
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How does 09c compare to something like sieger pk50 or golden tango ps?
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1-ply Jpens blades have all the speed inherent in the hinoki. I much prefer tacky/hybrid rubbers on my Jpens (S3-60, PK 50, BlueGrip, TG2 Neo, H2 Neo). Euro/Japs are waaay too bouncy for me. Even MX-S was too fast. Hexer Powergip and Rakza X were okay.
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Yeah Dignics 09c isn't as good as tuned hurricane 3, but it does come close I feel. And tuning is a pain in the ass anyway lol.
And it does have a really high throw angle, so I did also have to adjust my technique to go forward more and close the bat more with Dignics 09c, once I did that both the speed and spin really jumped.
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I was gifted a sheet to test
Background: Hurricane 3 neo for 3 years now (both boosted with 2 layers of sea moon) - commercial because i boost and on that poverty time. 2013-2015 TBZLF (H3 neo/Hexer) 2015-2018 TBZLC (H3 neo/T64) 2018-PRESENT ALC(h3neo/h3neo) FH - 40 degree BH - 39 degree My level 2-3 years ago. FOREHAND I attempted to use it on my FH but felt mushy as I am used to 40-41 degree sponge. - Drives: I don’t like the feel on drives. Drives have a bit more contact into the sponge vs loops. And again this felt too mushy for me. I found myself having to wait a little vs contacting in front of me. Also don’t like the springiness during this shot. - Loops: I don’t like the arc it gives during my loops. High after it bounces on opponents side, which I noticed my hitting partner counterlooping it back, overcoming the spin, or better direction on their blocks. ON A GOOD NOTE - it’s perfect for continuous loops in a sense that it feels SAFER and more tolerable for mistakes (especially with my ALC blade). I often find Hurricane 3 to GIVE TOO MUCH spin for me to react, meaning a good blocker will murder me if I don’t find a good balance with spin and speed (overcommit a shot) -Counterlooping: I found myself hitting the net when MID-Distance counterlooping with dignics09c. Close to the table is fine, it is VERY SPINNY, but the speed is not there compared to hurricane 3. -Block: A lot of players complain about spin sensitivity of TACKY rubbers, however i find it enjoyable blocking with chinese rubbers, as this shot allows me to take some spin away or redirect it. I find hurricane 3 better for MY TYPE OF BLOCKS, as i am able to control and return it LOWER and FASTER. I kept popping up blocks with the DIGNICS09c or hitting the net, again this could be from the SOFTER SPONGE that i am not used to. All things considered with the block similar to the drive, the same shortcomings for dignics09c shows for this particular shot on my level. - Push: compared to Hurricane 3 neo, it definitely gives a higher angle on pushes because of the bounce. I find it much difficult to do drop shots; HOWEVER, if you’re the type to use aggressive pushes, this may work for you. - Flick/Flat shot: i am not overly aggressive with this type of shot unless of course the ball is popped up high by the net and i can see the logo. Normally i use this shot to set up another shot but rarely to finish the point ie CHANGING THE SPIN. I did find D09C better for this shot. HOWEVER, for my game where i rarely FLAT SHOT on my FH side, it doesn't benefit me. FOREHAND CONCLUSION: --> Sticking to H3neo 40-41 degree. If i were developing a loop kill then i find Dignics 09c to be better and tolerable for DEVELOPING players on controlling their shots and UNDERSTANDING their spin (especially when it is being blocked. ie recovering fast). BACKHAND On the backhand, I find DIGNICS09C to better serve me as I do more flat shots and blocks. BRB - i got errands; here's a video of me playing 3 years ago. I was obsessed with developing my BACKHAND during this period, and wanted to finish points faster using it, INSTEAD OF USING my FH. Hence why i moved away from TENERGY to HURRICANE 3 NEO on my backhand to develop better touch, brush, and overall CONTACT. I also moved away from a ZLC blade to an ALC to give me a SOFTER balance for the HARDER RUBBERS. ZLC with hard rubbers is a no go for me fam. K BYE Edited by mon22 - 12/14/2020 at 9:39am |
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Well they're new and performing like a champ haha. One side has been in storage for a few months and I didn't notice any difference at all.
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How long did your 09c rubbers last?
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I used to play both sides hurricane which was worse lol... It actually feels light for me. That said I don't have very wristy BH and FH loops, they're quite large smooth strokes so it doesn't affect me so much...
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