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    Posted: 10/10/2021 at 5:27pm
For the average amateur player, can it be said that:

If you lose more points from mistakes in serve receive, the short game and hitting balls off the end then you should consider getting a slower blade or at least sticking with what you have.

Only when you lose most points because other players close to your level hit the ball past you/ outplay you in rallies, that is when a faster blade might actually help you get better results. 

Is it this simple?


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Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

For the average amateur player, can it be said that:

If you lose more points from mistakes in serve receive, the short game and hitting balls off the end then you should consider getting a slower blade or at least sticking with what you have.

Only when you lose most points because other players close to your level hit the ball past you/ outplay you in rallies, that is when a faster blade might actually help you get better results. 

Is it this simple?


"Is it this simple?" . IMO, Look at it from another perspective.

The clue is in your sentence "If you lose more points from mistakes....". A mistake is a mistake. Even MaLong makes mistakes. Changing one's equipment is not going to correct a mistake during a match. Reducing the frequency of those mistakes comes from gaining experience from practice with other players, competitive play, and guidance/training from coaches. 

However, a player, if he's of the mindset to experiment with equipment, let him do so. It's part of the fun of being an amateur player.
In this particular case, there are numerous threads on this forum on the advantages/disadvantages of whatever equipment is chosen. Have funSmile
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I think you should use slower and softer rubbers before hard and fast rubbers until you stop making unforced errors. After you stop making unforced errors you can start to consider a faster equipment
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Originally posted by Simon_plays Simon_plays wrote:

For the average amateur player, can it be said that:

If you lose more points from mistakes in serve receive, the short game and hitting balls off the end then you should consider getting a slower blade or at least sticking with what you have.

Only when you lose most points because other players close to your level hit the ball past you/ outplay you in rallies, that is when a faster blade might actually help you get better results. 

Is it this simple?



I think it's simpler than this.  Just pick something reasonably fast, not too fast, and enjoy the journey. Once you hit a certain level, you will know what you need in your setup. At that point playing with a certain blade vs another blade, or changing rubbers won't make that big of a difference. 
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When your “club-nemesis” has 0 problems stone cold “stank-blocking” your most perfectly struck loop-kills. Disapprove
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Why do you need a faster racket? The only reason you should change rackets is if the racket does something you do not like.  Timo Boll plays with an insanely fast racket.  Most of the CNT plays with a medium speed racket.  I know a 2500+ looper who plays with a slow wood racket. 

Write down what you like about your racket and what you do not like and then go from there. 
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Originally posted by Da Gravedigga Da Gravedigga wrote:

When your “club-nemesis” has 0 problems stone cold “stank-blocking” your most perfectly struck loop-kills. Disapprove

Sounds more like you need some variation in that case
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I think some points to consider (all IMO):
1. How often do you play? The more often you play, the more one can handle a faster blade.
2. Do you want win points fast or do you want extended points?
3. How old are you or what kind of shape you are in or mobility wise? Older players or those who want to win points quickly very well may want a faster blade/setup.
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Originally posted by cole_ely cole_ely wrote:

Originally posted by Da Gravedigga Da Gravedigga wrote:

When your “club-nemesis” has 0 problems stone cold “stank-blocking” your most perfectly struck loop-kills. Disapprove

Sounds more like you need some variation in that case
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The distance you play from the table is a factor.  Typically you want a faster blade the farther you play from the table.  You may also want a faster blade if you use slower rubber, like DHS H3.  My coach recommends playing with max-thickness rubber if you're a looper (e.g., moving from 1.9 to 2.1 Tenergy would increase speed without changing blade).  
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You should not have started with a slow blade in the 1st place so the question is moot IMHO.

OK this is a joke, I just like faster because I'm getting older.
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I've watched table tennis evolve since the 1980's and I've basically concluded that the speed of the equipment has nothing to do with skill level.  Every player is going to have a speed of racket that will feel most natural to them, giving them the maximum consistency they are capable of.  The key is to find this racket and stick with it indefinitely or only make small changes rarely.  This will maximize consistency and predictability...but the ideal speed is different to each person.

Whenever I borrow a racket I have trouble with rackets that are both significantly faster and slower than what I use personally.  The slower racket doesn't give me any more "control" or consistency, it messes me up just as much as a "too-fast" racket.

And if we must talk about pros - almost no pros use the absolute fastest equipment, and with few exceptions, almost none have changed the speed of their equipment significantly mid-career since I've been watching TT off VHS tapes.
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

You should not have started with a slow blade in the 1st place so the question is moot IMHO.

OK this is a joke, I just like faster because I'm getting older.

But I never did begin with a slow setup, my blade journey to date, starting 8 years ago: Yinhe T11+ -> TBS -> Allplay -> Violin (only counting blades I had played with for a decent length of time)


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Maybe one factor is whether your movement can keep up with the speed the ball will come back with off your faster blade?  

Anybody can use the fastest blade in a controlled situation like a robot or a one-point multiball feed.  You would just adapt to it. But when you have to move, if you can't get to the spot in the time before the ball comes back, your blade is too fast.  
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