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hallur 
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Hello. I have a Hurricane 3 on my forehand, and I think it is very good! I have been thinking of getting a H3 on my backhand.. But somebody says it is too heavy to have 2 H3 rubbers.. Is this true?
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Ksix
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Posted: 01/14/2007 at 6:27pm |
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It is if you're a penholder... but it should be ok for a shakehander... my friend uses 2 skylines on his blade and they weigh as much as Hurricane |
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hallur
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Posted: 01/14/2007 at 6:30pm |
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Ok. thank you Ksix!
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 8:47am |
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I am a SH player and I switched ot H3 (glued) on both FH & BH about one month ago (I had been using Bryce Max glued). My blade is 85 grams and to my surprise, having the dual sheets of H3 feels fine -- its not too heavy! NOTE: I am using 38 durometer H3 which might be lighter than typical 40 - 42 durometer H3. Your milage may vary. I've found that the H3 on the backhand has really improved my control and my over the table backhand loop. I'm very happy with this combination and think it has been overlooked by many for fear of it being too heavy. (Certainly some chinese rubber sheets are too heavy to use on both sides.) |
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hallur
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 10:48am |
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Ok, thanks JRSDallas! You say that you are glueing H3.. How do you glue them? I have tried and I just cant get any glueeffect out of them. It is like the tacky surface is taking over the effect.. Do you know what i mean? Mabey it is something with the glue.. I use Butterfly Fair Chack! |
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 10:51am |
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butterfly fair chack is perfect for h3. Put 2 layers on it. The key here is not for it to dome dramatically, but to soften the sponge for much better control.
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hallur
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 11:54am |
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Thank you very much shij421! I will try that!
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 12:14pm |
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H3 is good for Schlager type of backhand ( loop drive ) , not suitable for loop spin type of backhand ( Boll, Persson, Kreanga )
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Posted: 01/15/2007 at 1:01pm |
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yes 2 hurricanes is way 2 heavy! only if u have a strong arm then use 2 hurricanes! |
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FH: Hurricane Provincial BH: Palio CJ800 Speed Special thick glue |
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hallur
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:44am |
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Shij421.. How do you soften up your rubbers? What do you really mean?
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:51am |
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try looping with the h3 unglued, then try it with 2-3 layers of fair chack, persson light, whatever thicker speed glue. You will feel a big difference in terms of sponge hardness.
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hallur
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:54am |
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Ok, thanks.. But soften it up, and not dooming.. Should it be wet when I put it on?
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:56am |
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no let it dry for like 10 minutes.
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hallur
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:57am |
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Ok Can you say exactly how you glue? Every step? That would be really helpfull! |
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 11:03am |
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sure, i usually glue 30 minutes before i go play
1. one evenly spread layer on the h3 2. wait 10 minutes 3. another layer on the h3 4. a layer on the blade 5. wait 10 minutes 6. glue put it together and i use a Raid bugspray can to roll it on there. 7. the joy of h3 |
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 2:15pm |
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You can get an excellent dome using only one layer of glue if you use the glass gluing method. I only use one layer of Fair Chack Light.
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 3:34pm |
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u can use it i used bothe side h3 at times..it feels gud.
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 4:54pm |
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H3 isn't that heavy. I find it quite light. Try 729 40H and 40S, then you have heavy I think there would be better options for backhand than H3 (my opinion). Mostly because of high throw factor with bouncy DHS sponge effect... I knew a guy who had H3 on both sides. When his backhand loops hit they were superb. But he was very inconsistant. Guess glue would help alot... |
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hallur
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 6:14pm |
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Thank you guys! Tried to glue today, and I just couldn�t get it soft! |
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Ksix
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 7:19pm |
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Hum... what glue did you use? H3 tends to perform at its best with thick speed glue, and it should not dome too much...perhaps you put too much on it...
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:18pm |
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The H3 doesn't seem to soften with glue, it just seems to speed up and get bouncier. I think you need to start with soft H3 and not hard H3. If you have 42-45 hardness sponge, then its going to feel hard...even if you speed glue it to death.
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shij421
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Posted: 01/16/2007 at 10:48pm |
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oh yah, the h3 that I use are 40d hallur
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Posted: 01/17/2007 at 1:33am |
It doesnt get softer after 1 glueing. Sometimes it takes 3 to 5 sessions before it plays the way I want it. After that it is good for a year if you take care of it. At first I use 3 layers then 2 untill it is playing the way i want then 1 layer before I play. |
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Posted: 01/17/2007 at 2:04am |
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I am penhold and use two hurricane 3, after a while the weight doesnt' really bother me. I can't seem to get my hurricanes to have any speed glue effect either so I gave up on it cuz it just waste my time and glue and rubbers!
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hallur
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Posted: 01/17/2007 at 10:37am |
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Thanks alot guys! I think I will try another rubber! I have one Mendo MP, and it is great for glueing! But thank you very much everybody! |
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