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    Posted: 02/23/2007 at 6:55pm
Hey all... I like the idea of Ecolo Expander ,,,,, I was wondering if there is home made ecolo, which work as well or better, Ecolo claim that it will work for the life of the rubber, its just the thing is selling for 21 dollars
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yah um.. pour some veggie oil on ur rubber, it'll work i'm serious
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lol are you serious shiji?

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cooking oil?.... on the rubber or sponge
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sponge.

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yeah i've actually heard the original ecolo expander(not ecolo expander 2) was just veggie oil
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It is an oily substance, that's for sure
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wow so ur saying that pouring oil onto the sponge will expand it? 
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if someone can do a chemical analysis of ecoloII... :)
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mail me  a small sample of ecolo2 and ill see what i can do
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i put some veg oil last night and came back to check it this morning, the sponge did absorbe the oil , but didnt expand the sponge, i used the cut off edges from my rubbers for testing, this morning when i check it it was drythere are some residue if you press the sponge.
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i put some veg oil last night and came back to check it this morning, the sponge did absorbe the oil , but didnt expand the sponge, i used the cut off edges from my rubbers for testing, this morning when i check it it was dry there are some residue if you press the sponge.
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well glue it up and try playing with it lol
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maybe it smell like french fries when the game heats up,,,hehhe

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a guy made one here in brazil... is already in a online store...

www.mesatenista.net/loja  (in portuguese)

it is called EVO 1...


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the ecolo 2 might be like 20 bucks, but it will last you forever.  I tried it out on about five different rubbers and it's still near the top...I guess it depends on how often you get new rubbers, but if your not speed glueing it should last for years.
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cooking oil wont cut it bro, the top sheet is starting to seperate, its been a little over 18 hour since i put cooking oil on the sponge....
 
on the other hand, i also put some WD-40 on another piece, it been over 6 hours, it seem to have expanded and the top sheet isnt seperating so far,,, so i dont know, ill wait a little more and see what happen
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Does the WD-40 make it smell (like WD-40)?
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yes of corse
so far so good, it really expanded, this is gonna be interesting
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well keep us posted if u plan to use it, and by the way what rubber r u using it on? 
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If it smells like WD-40 chances are you wont sneak it past an umpire after the glue ban.
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The original expander can be purchased in any hardware store.  The main ingredient is used in some  household cleaners if I remember correctly. IMO, it didn't work. I just purchased a bottle of EII.
Goof Off will expand the sponge, but be sure not to apply too much or the glue will not adhere since the chemical is intended to glues etc. Goof Off will also rejuvenate sheets with with glue applied. 
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i used it on Globe999, (wd-40) works fine,,,, really bouncy, but,,,,, the smell really stink...... oh well
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I have a bottle of EE1 for anyone that wants it...for free. All I need is the shipping fee. I just remembered that the ingredient in EE1 is D'Limoene.
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the ecolo is organic, so is ilegal
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How do you figure that? 
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D limonene its just Orange or Lemon Oil....
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EEII is made for the glue ban, it's legal.
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dARN IT..... ITS OK

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Some people at the club where I play use baby oil to soften the sponge of the harder chinese rubbers when new.

I had some new sheets of focus I that I had prepared - I put 6 layers of basic chack on them, letting dry between coats; the sponge definately expanded and this treatment made the rubber nicer to play with unglued (IMHO).  I could also easily remove the glue buildup after the priming treatment.

A guy at the club also had a sheet of focus that he had treated with baby oil - we compared, and found that just using basic glue expanded the sponge more, and made it softer.  Incidentally, I have heard that EEI is just baby oil / mineral oil, give it a try and post results!
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