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ashishsharmaait 
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 Topic: Adidas P7 as replacement for 05 FX?Posted: 08/31/2014 at 1:02pm |
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Hi,
I am using the Tenergy 05 FX on the BH. Is the Adidas P7 a suitable replacement for it? Does it last as long as the 05 Fx? Price is the main concern for asking. Tenergy is retailing for USD 72 here in India. Thanks Edited by ashishsharmaait - 08/31/2014 at 1:02pm |
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Posted: 08/31/2014 at 1:23pm |
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Adidas P7 is a forehand rubber (unless your game is based on hard loops from the backhand), a very good rubber indeed but once you've played tenergy...you will come back to tenergy !!!
I forgot to add that P7 lives much more longer than tenergy rubbers...... Edited by kakapo - 08/31/2014 at 1:29pm |
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Posted: 08/31/2014 at 1:45pm |
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Adidas P7 is a very good alternative to T05 FX both in terms of characteristics and durability. It is very very durable. I played with it for 7 months on my FH - even playing mostly around 20 hrs weekly.
In terms of characteristics - I played with both side by side....in a multiball setting and match setting - extensively - for testing. I prefer the Adidas P7 - it does everything equally but gives more easy spin, and allows a bigger variety on shots (burshing vs activating sponge, slow vs fast) the type of shots you can do are more variable... therefore more problems for the opponent. The only thing that differs is a bit of feel - the T05 FX feels a bit more compact - less vibration. But in terms of technical possibilities the Adidas P7 I believe is a step up. 2.0mm is probably enough for a 1st try on BH. I personally have moved away from T05, T05 FX, Adidas P7, Rakza 7 type rubbers on my BH to faster, lower throw, more direct, slightly less spin rubbers such as Calibra LT spin on BH... but that is because I drive and punch block more on BH than spin during rallies.... so I was not using the strenghts of those rubbers on the BH side.... on FH I use Adidas P7 with great satisfaction...just ordered a new sheet. I have to thank Yogi for introducing me to this rubber. As a side note - many people recommended Vega Japan as a BH rubber - so I made tests also side by side - and still prefer Adidas P7 for a spinny looping BH rubber that is good for everthing else like pushing blocking etc..... You will not be disappointed with Adidas P7. It just does not let you down.
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Posted: 08/31/2014 at 2:15pm |
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Adidas P7 sponge hardness? 45° or 47° or something else?
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Posted: 08/31/2014 at 3:25pm |
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It is hard 47,5 degree Edited by adishorul - 08/31/2014 at 3:26pm |
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Posted: 08/31/2014 at 4:58pm |
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"Sponge hardness: 38 degrees by DHS scale approx."
taken from Yogi's outstanding review: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46951&title=adidas-p7-review
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 2:04pm |
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Never tried Tenergy 05 but Adidas P7 is an awesome rubber. It's great for driving and looping. I would definitely recommend. It is versatile, has nice feeling and works well fh and bh. Touch play is easy, you can even chop - easy to smash, block and finish off a point. Extremely reliable One of my favourite rubbers. It is best when you take a couple steps back from the table. I love it you should make the switch.
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 2:33pm |
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Joola Rhyzm 425 is the closest rubber I can find to replace 05fx with less spin and speed but with more control.
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 2:39pm |
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Tried Rhyzm - and it's characteristics are not really so close to T05FX although it IS a good rubber... give that it has less spin, it results in a different type of play. It's control is nice and I like it as a BH rubber. However, if the OP wants a rubber which will give the spin of T05fx and allow for the same game on every stroke... I think it has to be Adidas P7.... as I said... I myself do not go for these characteristics anymore on BH
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 7:09pm |
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P7 is closer to T64 than T05fx. If you really wanna have a T05fx clone, take the Donic Baracuda.
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 7:12pm |
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Hexer Powesponge is close to T05FX in feel, throw, hardness, spin.. just a little slower.
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 7:54pm |
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P7 is much closer to T05FX than T64, Baracuda feels harder and less springy than Baracuda. I would rather compare Baracuda to Spin Art
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 8:11pm |
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 8:23pm |
Baracuda less springy than P7 or T05fx? But anyway less springy is a good thing because Butterfly rubbers aren't springy at all compared to ESN rubbers. Baracuda comparing to Spin Art? Are you joking? Spin Art is hard and almost sticky while Baracuda a 45edgree tensor with excellent spin and speed:control ratio (only Vega Pro is superior of ESN rubbers in this). Spin Art is comparable to things like H3N or the new H3.50, but no Baracuda lol. I tested the Baracuda about 2 month ago with players who used to play second league in French in the 90s and we all agreed it is an ESN T05 clone, just add more catapult to the T05 and less "unique T05 feeling". So kind of a T05fx. P7 is lower throw compared to Baracuda with more " straight driving" than "high arc looping" characteristics. So I stay with this: T64 - P7 T05fx (hard selected) - Baracuda
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 8:37pm |
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older generation of ESN Rubbers which are more or less equal
Tibhar Genius = Donic Baracuda = Adidas P5, yes these rubbers are very very spinny but they are not tenergy 05fx clones. even with 45 degree hardness, they have a harder feel upon impact of the ball. I was comparing the feel and spin generation of the baracuda with spin art which for me both rubbers are very spinny. The Adidas P5 is the closest to Baracuda not P7. These 2 rubbers are a generation and batch apart. The T05fx has a softer feel that is similar to the P7 but it doesn't have the t64 soft and springy feel
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Posted: 09/01/2014 at 8:39pm |
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If you want something like T64 the closest thing from the Adidas line is the Tenzone Ultra not the P7
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