BH Rubbers for RPB players

I'm just clearing up the common misconceptions about RPB. People can play however they want, but there are better/worse ways of doing things.

roundrobin wrote: AgentHEX wrote: The traditional BH is quite restrictive at higher levels since the wrist lacks flexibility at the angles necessary to block loops. Contrast to RPB where counters against topspin are automatic and even more natural angle than SH. Unless someone's game is based on pushing it's hard to imagine they'd be better off with traditional penhold. I don't know where you get this "TPB's game is based on pushing" from.  TPB is pretty flexible to block loops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGb0-KTy3k BTW I played on the Argentina National Team as a K-pen player.

I agree with RR.

In general TPB is actually better in defense or control type of strokes, including blocking loops, compared to RPB.

roundrobin wrote: AgentHEX wrote: The traditional BH is quite restrictive at higher levels since the wrist lacks flexibility at the angles necessary to block loops. Contrast to RPB where counters against topspin are automatic and even more natural angle than SH. Unless someone's game is based on pushing it's hard to imagine they'd be better off with traditional penhold. I don't know where you get this "TPB's game is based on pushing" from.  TPB is pretty flexible to block loops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGb0-KTy3k BTW I played on the Argentina National Team as a K-pen player.

The closed angle necessary to block high spin loops is at the very limit of motion for the human wrist. That's why you see these players contort their bodies somewhat to block topspin. At the limit the range of flexibility drops towards zero, which means they need to use their body to control the angle instead of just wrist. That's also why they need to really contort to pull off a BH loop. As a serious pen player you should know that it was recommended more for tall players simply because they can close the angle down over the table better due to geometry of their height.

This worked better when pen players were still hitting with low-throw pips, or used bit lower throw 1-plies, but the pro scene has moved on.

Contrast this to RPB which has a very natural angle against topspin.


Edited by AgentHEX - 01/28/2015 at 12:57am

AgentHEX wrote: roundrobin wrote: AgentHEX wrote: The traditional BH is quite restrictive at higher levels since the wrist lacks flexibility at the angles necessary to block loops. Contrast to RPB where counters against topspin are automatic and even more natural angle than SH. Unless someone's game is based on pushing it's hard to imagine they'd be better off with traditional penhold. I don't know where you get this "TPB's game is based on pushing" from.  TPB is pretty flexible to block loops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdGb0-KTy3k BTW I played on the Argentina National Team as a K-pen player.  The closed angle necessary to block high spin loops is at the very limit of motion for the human wrist. That's why you see these players contort their bodies somewhat to block topspin. At the limit the range of flexibility drops towards zero, which means they need to use their body to control the angle instead of just wrist. That's also why they need to really contort to pull off a BH loop. As a serious pen player you should know that it was recommended more for tall players simply because they can close the angle down over the table better due to geometry of their height.

wankhao wrote: First of all, thank you for viewing my post. Today, my topic is Backhand rubbers for Reverse Penhold Backhand players. Challenges: There are difference challenges for RPB players at different levels. 1. Their backhand could not get the ball over the net. (Beginner level) 2. Their backhand could not generate enough spin (Novice level) 3. Their backhand could not deliver enough power (Amateur level) 4. Their backhand could not counter attack/loop (Pro level) The technique to learn is on youtube demonstrated by Wang Hao, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrrIDgT6TnY Therefore, different rubbers are needed for the backhand at different levels. 1.To get the ball over the net: Fast rubber, eg:  Xiom 2. To generate spin: Soft (in hardness) and slow rubber, eg: Calibra LT/ Tour 3. To deliver power (and block): Soft and fast rubber, eg: Hexer HD, Palio macro Pro 4. To counter attack (and punch/catapult): Medium (in hardness) fast rubber , eg: Tenergy 05, Rakza 7. If you feel comfortable using Tenergy 05, or Rakza 7, then keep them. If you don't feel comfortable with them, step down to other rubbers as mentioned in order 1 to 4. Once you are not happy with them, move up the ladder in order 1 to 4. Never ever use Chinese rubbers on your backhand with RPB. I will post a comparison between Tenery05 and Rakza 7 for BH rubber for RPB players if requested.

I believe tibhar aurus can cover first 3 levels

1. It's forgiving
2. Spinny
3. Fast

Using it on 4th level would be a matter of personal preference IMO.
Works best with blades having hinoki top ply e.g Joola Rossi Emotion

Edited by ronakvyas86 - 04/15/2016 at 3:52am