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amatorrr 
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I have two questions. The first is this original viscaria?
I have my doubts. As the handle is not spent J.T.T.A.A. There was a version? The second question is how much is worth viscaria in very good condition?    |
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Argothman
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 6:06am |
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With a black tag in good condition it should be worth a lot of money, a few hundred perhaps depending on the buyer. I can't say what version exactly, but the black tag is the older version.
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Tinykin
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 7:00am |
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Who would pay that, collectors or players? |
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 11:23am |
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I would pay that (player)
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viva
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As a player,I would not pay a few hundred for a blade just because it has a black tag. I understand it "may" play better but not really worth it for me personally. |
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kprimorac
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 12:33pm |
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This one is the second generation, the first version has à short lense.
Below are some pics : http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=61374&title=some-of-my-blades Have fun :-) |
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Tt Gold
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 12:36pm |
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I Would pay what's the price?
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edizg
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 12:43pm |
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hmm...I have 9 Viscarias at the moment (1st, 2nd and 3rd series) and all of them have J.T.T.A.A. at the bottom of the handle...
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amatorrr
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 12:47pm |
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For this I ask if anyone has the Viscaria? |
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Jerem
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Przecież na metal tagu masz nabite "JTTAA" tyle wystarczy. Wygląda na oryginał. Jaki długi jest ten uchwyt?
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Tt Gold
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What were the difference again? I only know two gens old metal tag and new silver one what is the third gen
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amatorrr
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Tak na motylku jest tyle ,że nie spodkałem sie z viscarią która ponizej nie ma wypalonego JTTAA. A ten model nie posiada tegoż znaku jeżeli miałeś okazię spodkać taką wersję to chętnie zobaczę foto. Budzi to domysły w dzisiejszych czasach czy to nie podróbka?
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amatorrr
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 1:57pm |
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1. F L, S T metal tag
2. FL,ST metal tag 3. FL,ST metal tag number on the blade 4. FL,ST silver tag |
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Dean
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Your Vis looks original. Second series. I saw a few Viscaria blades from 1st and 2nd generation that no longer had the JTTA stamp/letters. I do own one or two which also lost the letters or have fading letters (have to check again). The reason should be one of the former owners has sanded the bottom of the handle to round the edges. The letters vary from blade to blade in terms of how deep they are stamped/branded into the wood. A little sanding and some may fade away. First series: 1993-1996 (F L, S T) > black tag, no serial numbers, there are differences within the first series in terms of the handles Second series: 1997-2005 (FL,ST) > black tag, no serial numbers Third series: 2006-2007 (FL,ST) > black tag, serial numbers New series: from 2008 on (FL) > silver tag, serial numbers
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amatorrr
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Dean thanks for the information. Already in August I was afraid it was some fake
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I think it could be third version (with serial number)...has it serial?
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amatorrr
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 4:08pm |
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Has the numbers on the table is the third version
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amatorrr
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 4:11pm |
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How much can cherish for the Viscaria? |
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edizg
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 4:14pm |
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Second series are from 200 to 220 eur (depends on condition), so third version is worth less than that...
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Dean
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You´re welcome. No need to be afraid any longer. It is original. If it has serial number it surely is from 3rd series, edizg is absolutely right. I think you can find the second version Vis FL more often. I guess third version hasn´t been produced that much. A second version FL in very good condition that still has its imprint and maybe has nice Koto outer plies can go above 300€ these days. But of course there are some that are sold for 120€ or less. It depends on condition. The third version Viscaria FL blades I saw overall changed its owner for less money compared to second version Viscaria FL.
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 5:27pm |
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I am always willing to buy a black tag one.
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Johnny Erasure
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Posted: 02/08/2015 at 5:32pm |
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Me too have a Viscaria old tag, second version, without J.T.T.A.A. The handle was sanded on the bottom of the handle.
Btw, how much do you want for Viscaria old tag? Edited by Johnny Erasure - 02/08/2015 at 5:35pm |
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is this official information, could you show the source please? Edited by typn - 03/01/2015 at 9:20am |
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not anymore, there's now a newer series. with a larger silvertag.
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aroonkl
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Posted: 03/01/2015 at 2:48pm |
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I always hear early versions are better. How better? Faster, more feeling, better control, heavier, more rigid or softer?
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The old ones I have are usually a little more flexible, and softer than the majority of new ones. That means most of the older ones are just a touch slower and have better control. It is not a gigantic effect, but I can tell the difference between my three black tag ones (all have serial numbers) and all of my new sliver tag ones. I don't think it's a matter of age, I think that it is something in the way they make them. A lot of the most recent ones tend to be significantly lighter also, some will like it, I don't.
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NoRema
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Posted: 03/01/2015 at 3:55pm |
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The newest ones with the larger silver tag are around 88-92 grams
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