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-ljl- 
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 Topic: Returning Serves!!!!!Posted: 06/27/2006 at 10:16am |
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Anyone knows why when i receive serves from some players. the ball will go abit high above the net... and i got a smash back! I try to make it lower but it usually hits the net. I think it is because i cant see the amount of spin served.... but how can i know how much spin does the ball brings? |
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Jolan
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 11:26am |
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That is what experience is made for ! Watch carefully your oponent gesture. My first coach taught me to direct the ball where the bat comes from. It it supposed to counter the spin. Also practice a lot short returns. These are the keys of modern TT. It forbids the other to loop kill and enables you to start agression. Do not hesitate to attack long serves.
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 1:05pm |
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yepp a lot of it is trying to counter the spin: going the other way, always try to watch the ball and see what type of spin is coming at u
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 4:15pm |
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I push a bit long and low which I need to change, however as long as my opponent gives a backspin or dead ball it is easy to return with a ton of backspin using the penhold push where you point the tip at the ball.
The key is to make your paddle parallel to the table and push off the bounce. Also pay attention to the sidespin and tip your paddle 2-3 cm away from where your opponent wants the sidespin to go. This should produce a short push or a long one but it'll be low to the net making it hard to loop or kill. |
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 4:38pm |
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Yes, to second what DatSuKid said...
Close your blade more... |
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 6:54pm |
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generally that happens with 3 scenarios 1. opponent serves sidespin in this case you must angle you paddle to the opposite way it spins. So if the ball naturally goes to your opponents bh, the return it to their fh. 2. opponent serves topspin close your racket and LOOP 3. opponent serves dead in this case, dont push or chop hard, u can loop it, flick it, or drop it. These are the only things that I can think of |
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Posted: 06/27/2006 at 11:17pm |
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Practice reading the spin, also relax your wrist more.
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Posted: 06/28/2006 at 11:33am |
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look at the ball. looking at the words of the ball can help. see how fast it is rotating, so u can read the spin better. hearing the sound the ball hitting the table can also help read spin better. more spin, less sound. less spin more sound
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Posted: 06/30/2006 at 2:52pm |
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may be the amount of underspin deceived you.try to see
the contact area & the time it takes to live the bat surface.if the blde held horizontal then expect heavy under spin.if the slop is towards the net then expect varaity(no spin,topspin,long).see the wrist.if you are not sure push it long to the vacant corner of the table. IT IS PRELIMINARY.YOU HAVE TO MODIFY IT ACCORDING TO YOUR GAME AND THE STRENGTH OF YOUR OPPONENET butterfly jonyer h an fh sriver max bh mark v max |
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Posted: 06/30/2006 at 2:56pm |
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alink91 made a good point.if the slop of the bat is other than towards the net always except sidespin.it also a matter of controlled flick of wrist
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Posted: 06/30/2006 at 2:58pm |
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alink91 made a good point.if the slop of the bat is other than towards the net always except sidespin.it also a matter of controlled flick of wrist
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Posted: 06/30/2006 at 8:55pm |
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The hard part of returning serves is to recognise what spin is coming and how much. Then you can either add spin or overpower the spin.
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Posted: 06/30/2006 at 10:06pm |
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backhand loops and fast backhand flicks always work though not all the time esp against side spin
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Posted: 07/01/2006 at 2:20pm |
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I agree with most of whats been said. I would add this:
If your bat is motionless the opponents spin wil kick to the max. So a good technique is hold your blade vertical when hitting and push through the ball aiming for the centre line of the table. Also dont worry so much about the sidespin - at a higher level that is more to disguise the chop or topspin. Just try to develop your awareness of how your opponet has hit the ball. Just a little finger pressure to close or open the racket at the last second when your are confident of the spin. Its important as one of the other guys said to make sure your stroke is smooth and horizontal as it guides the ball as thoug on tram lines. Finally when you are not playing in the match just try and read the spin from where you are sitting . hope this helps |
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Posted: 07/02/2006 at 7:22pm |
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Wait are you talking about reserves?
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Adding to what people say. Pay attention to the the ball. Look at it being tossed and coming down. Pay attention to the way he contacts the ball. Get your body ready for whatever you're attempting. Determine the distance of the ball. Loop when is long but wait till the ball drops a little. You do not have to go all out and just take your time returning that ball with great control. Push short when serve is short. Get ready for some action. |
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Posted: 07/03/2006 at 4:21am |
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If you miss a couple in a row, try doing what I do. I let it drop off the table and chop it hard with sidespin, its kinda like when those defensive players let the ball drop way down then chop it back with alot of spin
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Posted: 08/21/2006 at 3:49pm |
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I agree with Azn I was playing with a guy who had a lot of tricky services. A player at the next table came over to me and said, dont play the ball too quickly step back a bit allow it to spin out some then play your stroke. Try it you'll like it. |
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Posted: 08/21/2006 at 7:43pm |
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this one serve that i have trouble returning is top/left to my backhand side, its a short serve too, so i cant loop it forehand flick it back.....i tried to the drop shot, but it goes long and goes out....is there a way to drop it back without it going too far. please respond ty |
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Posted: 08/21/2006 at 7:45pm |
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top/left spins**
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Posted: 08/22/2006 at 10:09am |
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i think u could push it forward... like wat penhold usually does...
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Posted: 08/22/2006 at 11:06am |
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Step forward and brush the ball with a verticallly closed face. No need for a big backswing, and doesn't require a long follow-through. And since it is spinning to your BH side, you can just stroke it down the line (opponent's FH).
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Posted: 08/22/2006 at 2:33pm |
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One of the most important point in receiving short service is that try to receive it before rising ball (espacialy in backspin and mix).
If you can improve this ability you can defraud your opponent and so it won't be so higher than net. |
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Posted: 10/11/2006 at 4:59am |
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wat if they serve a short but alota topspin. wat do i do
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Posted: 10/11/2006 at 5:45am |
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drop shot ....
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Posted: 10/11/2006 at 11:15am |
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i also have problem receiving serve. mainly is because of the spin i'm been deceived by. my friend serve slightly side topspin ball which i thought was backspin... tried to do drop shot, flew out of the table...
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Posted: 11/01/2006 at 2:23am |
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i have a question i play penhold and i handle back spin and top spin fine it is side spin that i have trouble with especially is the serve side spin to me back hand side with spin turning to my left so that if you are looking at the table fro my prospective it flies off the table to my left i can never seem to get it far enough over to sta on the table and if i try to cheat over them they serve down the line and i cant get there so how do i handle this serve
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Posted: 11/01/2006 at 3:19am |
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Can you use the push-block to attack? Do you have the RPB? If you answer yes to one of those attack it.
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