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Originally posted by speaquinox speaquinox wrote:

I've played with it 2-3 hours. Good blade. Thick St handle. Solid, Medium feel. Haven't played with a Clipper in 5 years so I can't compare.


how is speed and hardness?
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Off with medium hardness.
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thanks. Can you please compare to Timo Boll ALC in speed and hardness? which one will be faster and harder?
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The Fortius is softer, more controlled. It's still quite fast if you hit it hard enough, so power-wise it isn't bad, but you'll have to work harder for it. The dwell time is pretty good, as you could expect from an all wood limba blade.

It's also heavier, seems hard to find below 90+ grammes.
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Originally posted by fatt fatt wrote:

http://tt-japan.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=5_6&products_id=2062

a very attractive $50 price for a 7-ply all wood blade that competes with the twice as expensive ludeack


fatt, your link url is incorrect and causing an error... I corrected it in the quote above
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I've just ordered a Fortius FT.  Decided it was time to have a decent 7-ply limba outer blade in the cupboard. The price has gone up in the last few months in Japan (along with the Swifter), with Mizuno putting it down to an increase in materials cost (mainly Japanese cypress):


Interesting that this isn't a standard limba - ayous x 5 - limba blade, but has two plies of hinoki around the core. Looking forward to giving it a bash.

Also, Mizuno have two new varitations coming out in September - Fortius FT5 and Fortius FT Light.
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Where did you find out that it uses two plies of hinoki?
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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

Where did you find out that it uses two plies of hinoki?

Well, first of all the pictures show the classic "vein" structure of the two plies around the core, indicative of a spruce of some kind.  Notice that the other plies (ayous) look nothing like that.

But quite apart from that:
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Indeed, good find. I didn't pay much attention because a lot of sources said classic limba-ayous. I thought the difference in grain was due 90 degree difference of the plies but it makes sense now.
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Originally posted by Da Baobei Da Baobei wrote:

Indeed, good find. I didn't pay much attention because a lot of sources said classic limba-ayous. I thought the difference in grain was due 90 degree difference of the plies but it makes sense now.

Yeah, lots of shops with the same limba- 5x ayous - limba info as well as the forums.

I like Mizuno's level of detail in that page though.  Backstory and character arc for a blade.
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too bad it made in China
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

too bad it made in China


So are many things.
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bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber


Thanks for the warning, I will seal before use.

I think Swedish blades are worse than Chinese for this.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber


Thanks for the warning, I will seal before use.

I think Swedish blades are worse than Chinese for this.


I don't agree. I have Infinity and I had before Emerald and Rosewood. no one of them had splinters. maybe I just got lucky ...
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Or perhaps unlucky with your Fortius.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber


Thanks for the warning, I will seal before use.

I think Swedish blades are worse than Chinese for this.


I don't agree. I have Infinity and I had before Emerald and Rosewood. no one of them had splinters. maybe I just got lucky ...

I think this has actually more to do with the type of wood used then where it was made. The Swedish blades listed above are all hardwood and/or coated so no splinters on removing rubbers. The Fortius has softer limber outers so it is more likely to have splinters. Try a Clipper or ALL-Classic made in Sweden.
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Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber


Thanks for the warning, I will seal before use.

I think Swedish blades are worse than Chinese for this.


I don't agree. I have Infinity and I had before Emerald and Rosewood. no one of them had splinters. maybe I just got lucky ...

I think this has actually more to do with the type of wood used then where it was made. The Swedish blades listed above are all hardwood and/or coated so no splinters on removing rubbers. The Fortius has softer limber outers so it is more likely to have splinters. Try a Clipper or ALL-Classic made in Sweden.



I never had splinters with any Butterfly blades. some of them also have soft outer.
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Mine was ok when I changed the rubbers.
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I like the Fortius blade a lot. I have nittaku fastarc P-1 on both sides. This is now one of my better blades. I prefer this blade to Andro Temper Tech OFF+. I owned two of the Andro blades with Addidas P-7 rubbers. I will buy the Mizuno FT or SST because the Fortius blade was great.
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by Matt Pimple Matt Pimple wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

Originally posted by AndySmith AndySmith wrote:

Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

bad quality. I got many splinters on top layer from removing rubber


Thanks for the warning, I will seal before use.

I think Swedish blades are worse than Chinese for this.


I don't agree. I have Infinity and I had before Emerald and Rosewood. no one of them had splinters. maybe I just got lucky ...

I think this has actually more to do with the type of wood used then where it was made. The Swedish blades listed above are all hardwood and/or coated so no splinters on removing rubbers. The Fortius has softer limber outers so it is more likely to have splinters. Try a Clipper or ALL-Classic made in Sweden.



I never had splinters with any Butterfly blades. some of them also have soft outer.


I had a splinter in my intensity carbon my primorac bought in japan had one side skewed and rattles when i tap with my finger like something is rattling
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Originally posted by piligrim piligrim wrote:

too bad it made in China


When the defective blade was made in japan they call it a bad batch if the same problem happens to a chinese blade they say bad QC .People are fanbois
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I posted back in October 2016. I am still using this Fortius Blade. It is the best blade for the price. Not trying the Fortius is a mistake. 
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Originally posted by geraldcarmack geraldcarmack wrote:

I posted back in October 2016. I am still using this Fortius Blade. It is the best blade for the price. Not trying the Fortius is a mistake. 

I totally agree with you. The quality and craftsmanship of this blade on the level of Nittaku  blades made in China.
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