How do you use 500ml glue for it's entire life?

Excuse the typo from the title

Coagulation. The ammonia escaped and that is what keeps the glue from curing. Get a real glue.

Thats why i buy the 90ml bottles. I too use Vario Clean and 90ml bottle lasts me a while since i glue once every 3-4 months. But no problems with glue thickening or separating.

SmackDAT......you will have to get used to buying just the right amount of glue to get you through a 6-12 month period using a lot of the water glues unfortunately....just the nature of the formulation.

Worst things you can do to it which causes quicker spoiling... don't allow it to get cold or stay open and breathing air.  As soon as you use the glue....quickly get the cap back on it.  Id say temps above 60F are fine for storage long term....by using Tear Mender, which can go bad quickly if not taken care of well.  But the slight change in formula they made a year or so ago made it last longer.  If you have a bottle of tear mender that smells like ammonia....it is the old version.  The new version uses something that smells like wintergreen. 

I buy a 6.oz (177ml) about every 6 months.  I also glue others blades too so it makes it easy to cycle through fresh bottles of medium sized ones for my particular use amount.

SmackDAT wrote: zeio wrote: Coagulation. The ammonia escaped and that is what keeps the glue from curing. Get a real glue. Vario Clean? That's essentially free chack though? How do I prevent the coagulation.

Try to keep the evaporation of ammonia at a minimal.

When it comes to glue, don't buy too much OR;

Get something like the Haifu/Dianchi water-solubility bond instead. That little sucker may not look much, but it can stand the test of time. I had a 300ml bottle from early 2009 and kept it in a Ziploc bag. Gave it a good shake before each use. As of May 2017, it was still runny, color was still milky white and it still reeked of pee, err, I mean sharp cheese. Good as new, for US$13.



Edited by zeio - 06/29/2017 at 4:03am

anubhav1984 wrote: zeio wrote: Coagulation. The ammonia escaped and that is what keeps the glue from curing. Get a real glue. Just wondering...if we use liquid ammonia on this coagulated glue would it actually return back to its liquid state or is it done after it gets cured?

It should be possible but the problem with latex(rubber suspended in a solution, water in this case) is that once it coagulates, the latex itself vulcanizes(crosslinks) and that process is irreversible.

http://forums.mtbr.com/wheels-tires/ammonia-liquid-latex-why-235345.html#post2588055
http://chem2u.blogspot.com/2011/08/coagulation-of-latex.html
http://www.sserc.org.uk/chemistry-resources/chemistry-experiments/3865-latex-cross-linking

zeio wrote:   Try to keep the evaporation of ammonia at a minimal. When it comes to glue, don't buy too much OR; Get something like the Haifu/Dianchi water-solubility bond instead. That little sucker may not look much, but it can stand the test of time. I had a 300ml bottle from early 2009 and kept it in a Ziploc bag. Gave it a good shake before each use. As of May 2017, it was still runny, color was still milky white and it still reeked of pee, err, I mean sharp cheese. Good as new, for US$13.

The ziploc bag keeps the air and moisture out thus prolonging the life of glue.

BigFatLoop wrote: Where do you get a 32 oz container of TM?  I can get the 6 oz at Ace or 16 oz from Amazon. slevin wrote: I get a 32 oz container of Tearmender and then use that to fill up a empty 16oz Tearmender bottle to about 3/4. This way, the 32 oz container gets rarely opened.

Yea...I never saw it anywhere in anything larger than a 16.oz bottle....maybe slevin contacted TE and got them to send a gallon jug of it to him....lol    He must glue rubbers every day.