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    Posted: 02/25/2014 at 3:54pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg1kYtS8Fnk&edit=vd&t=29m35s

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at what time in the video is the rally
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The time is in the link.  I like how Eugene calls time out after that to catch his breath.
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That scoreboard.
I assume it's a normal monitor hooked up to a PC. Is the software generally available?
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man, this guy has a nice away from the table BH. I am trying to develop something like that myself. Funny, in practice drills I am actually pretty consistent, but in match I can't force myself to stay neutral, always turn my body slightly to favor FH, and I never seem to be in a good position for that shot.
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Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

That scoreboard.
I assume it's a normal monitor hooked up to a PC. Is the software generally available?

If I remember correctly, it is controlled via a tablet (ipad I think).  There is a small box (maybe a roku, or apple tv or something similar) connected to the TV that you can see on top.
That's all I know.
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

man, this guy has a nice away from the table BH

A bit unrelated to the thread but: he plays with soft rubber on his BH (T05 fx - I saw his blade last year at a local tournament). So does Bochao Li (ex-CNT, Polish Super League player in NJ) who has a good away from the table BH as well.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote schen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02/26/2014 at 12:32am
Originally posted by hookumsnivy hookumsnivy wrote:

Originally posted by Tinykin Tinykin wrote:

That scoreboard.
I assume it's a normal monitor hooked up to a PC. Is the software generally available?

If I remember correctly, it is controlled via a tablet (ipad I think).  There is a small box (maybe a roku, or apple tv or something similar) connected to the TV that you can see on top.
That's all I know.

Will Shortz (the owner) told me that it was a custom app they had programmed and it's synced to the TV's wirelessly via Apple TV from an iPad.
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24 strokes for the kid to get the point; that was hard work!
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Looks to me like Eugene Wang has figured out how to beat the kid, and just let him play to entertain the crowd.
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Nice match - thanks for posting!
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Originally posted by mhnh007 mhnh007 wrote:

Looks to me like Eugene Wang has figured out how to beat the kid, and just let him play to entertain the crowd.

i had that same feeling. He looked all too comfortable countering everything, but to me it appeared he always tried to land the ball back on the table softly.
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

man, this guy has a nice away from the table BH

A bit unrelated to the thread but: he plays with soft rubber on his BH (T05 fx - I saw his blade last year at a local tournament). So does Bochao Li (ex-CNT, Polish Super League player in NJ) who has a good away from the table BH as well.

what blade did he use?
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

what blade did he use?
Eugene Wang uses Viscaria.
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im just wondering how that kid stays that good without practice
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Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

what blade did he use?


Both use Viscaria. Eugene used to use IF-ZLC prior to this.

Edited by slevin - 02/27/2014 at 9:11pm
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Originally posted by Purett Purett wrote:

im just wondering how that kid stays that good without practice


He doesn't practice? I thought he'd be ever present at Westchester TTC ...
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he is but hardly ever practicing 
i mean his level practice 
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I heard that Kai trains at the Lily Yip TTC

Edited by GMan4911 - 02/27/2014 at 10:21pm
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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:


I heard that Kai trains at the Lily Yip TTC


You heard wrong...
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I find his footwork more amazing than his BH. He's going to gain some power as he gets a little bigger. He hasn't reached his ceiling yet.
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:


I heard that Kai trains at the Lily Yip TTC


You heard wrong...
I remember where I read it - in this thread
 
He trains at NJTTC.  Don't know if that is still current though.
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Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:

Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by GMan4911 GMan4911 wrote:


I heard that Kai trains at the Lily Yip TTC


You heard wrong...

I remember where I read it - in this thread
 
He trains at NJTTC.  Don't know if that is still current though.


Wrong again

I started that thread. He was much later, living with the owner of the Westchester club & has been affiliated with them since. No comment on his LYTTC story...

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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

what blade did he use?


Both use Viscaria. Eugene used to use IF-ZLC prior to this.
What rubbers? H3 both?
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wang equipment:
http://www.butterflyonline.com/static.asp?htmltemplate=bio_e_wang.html

I wonder if he boosts his rubbers.
maybe he doesn't but he probably changes his rubbers every other week.
he has somewhat of a similar style to appelgren who's been mentioned a lot here lately.

as for the other guy, great rally but you could tell he was forcing it to the edge, which generally means at some point you crumble down.


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Eugene uses t05 FH t80 BH on Viscaria last time I knew. 

Guessing Kai is Viscaria H3 T05fx?
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Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

Eugene uses t05 FH t80 BH on Viscaria last time I knew. 

Guessing Kai is Viscaria H3 T05fx?

I could be wrong, but last I heard he was using T05 on the FH.  When he got here I think he was using H3.
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Originally posted by hookumsnivy hookumsnivy wrote:

Originally posted by beeray1 beeray1 wrote:

Eugene uses t05 FH t80 BH on Viscaria last time I knew. 

Guessing Kai is Viscaria H3 T05fx?


I could be wrong, but l<span style="line-height: 1.4;">ast I heard he was using T05 on the FH.  When he got here I think he was using H3.</span>


Yes.

Most of the Chinese imports play Viscaria / H3 / Tenergy.

Bochao Li uses ZJK-ALC which is Viscaria 2.0. I'll check this weekend if his FH rubber is tuned or not.

Kewei Li (who of course, plays from way back so has different equipment requirement) used the Mizutani blade when I took a few lessons from him a few months ago - I thought he'd use a defensive blade. Nasty FH when he twiddles to using his Tenergy side.

Could someone (Andy.h, Purett, Kurokami?) request Will Shortz to start streaming his tournament main matches live? He gets the best players in the East coast to play. Should be good national advertising for his club as well. And I love watching Kai play.

Edited by slevin - 02/28/2014 at 9:43am
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Originally posted by slevin slevin wrote:

Kewei Li (who of course, plays from way back so has different equipment requirement) used the Mizutani blade when I took a few lessons from him a few months ago - I thought he'd use a defensive blade. Nasty FH when he twiddles to using his Tenergy side.
Are you sure he wasn't just using it for coaching? Last year after the Badger Open final (which he lost 2-4 against Eugene Wang) I asked him about his paddle and he was playing with BTY Joo See Hyuk blade.
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Originally posted by puppy412 puppy412 wrote:

I wonder if he boosts his rubbers.
maybe he doesn't but he probably changes his rubbers every other week.
Pros don't need to boost their rubber as they get pimped rubbers from the factory. The Tenergy that Eugene (or Timo Boll) gets has nothing to do with the Tenergy we pick up at a supplier
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