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    Posted: 09/23/2013 at 12:31am

I've become interested Hinoki Carbon Blades and to learn as much as I can, I started a master-list of Hinoki Composite Blades. If you can add any blades or make corrections of any kind I would be appreciative


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Adidas Radix Impress
Adidas Radix Express
Adidas Radix Ultimate
Adiddas Fibertec Extreme
Adidas Strike Carbon
Andro Kinetic Supreme Zylon/Kiso Hinoki Off-
Andro Hiloom
Avalox J-Aramid
Butterfly Schlager Carbon
Butterfly Schlager Carbon Light
Butterfly Primorac Carbon
Butterfly Sardius
Butterfly Photino
Butterfly Photino Light
Butterfly Gergley 21
Butterfly Kong Linghui Special
Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon
Butterfly Kreanga Carbon
Butterfly Iolite NEO
Butterfly Reygundo
Butterfly Cofferlait
Butterfly Supreme Speed
Butterfly Iolite
Butterfly Gergley T5000
Buttterfly Gergley Alpha
Butterfly Keyshot Alpha
Butterfly Ishilon
Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special
Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN)
Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN)
Butterfly Chiang Peng Lung T5000 (jpen)
Butterfly Chinese ULC (cpen)
Butterfly Quetzal
Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+   
Darker 7P 2A Carbon
Darker Arly-Carbon
Darker Esteem
Darker BX-700 a.k.a. Center Carbon
Dawei GTS
Donic Li Ping Kitex
Donic Carbo System Off-
Donic Carbo System OFF
Donic Waldner Carbopower
Donic Ovtcharov Carbospeed
Donic Waldner Legend Carbon
Donic Persson Dotec Off
Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki
Dr. Neubauer Hercules
Joola Markovic
Joola Rossi Force
Joola Rossi Emotion
Joola TPE Fight
Joola TPE Perform
Juic Hinoki Carbon III
Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power
Mizuno World Champion
NeoTTec Hinoki Carbon
Nexy Spartacus
Nexy Airang
Nexy Sahara
Nexy Oscar
Nittaku Alulass
Nittaku Noveliar G Carbon
Sanwei HC-1
Sanwei HC-2
Sanwei HC-3
Sanwei HC-4
Sanwei HC-5
Sanwei HC-6
Sanwei HC-7
TSP Hino Carbon Power
TSP Hino Carbon Speed
Tibhar Inca
Victas Quartet Speed
Xiom Strato
Xiom Ignito
Xiom Axelo
Xiom Speed
Xiom Control (All +, Off -, Off)
Xiom Zetro Quad
XVT ZL Hinoki
Yinhe Kiso Hinoki Woven Carbon DL-1
Yinhe Bogen
Yinhe Z7-VF
Yinhe Z5-VF
729/Dynasty Hinoki Carbon
729/LKT Transformer N*1 Carbon
729/LKT Zebra Carbon
729/LKT 368 Hinoki Carbon


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Donic Waldner Legend Carbon
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Thanks DrB...ADDED!
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You left out Butterfly Cofferlait (ALC), and Butterfly Supreme Speed (ALC)
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LKT Transformer N°1 Carbon
LKT Zebra Carbon
Butterfly Iolite
Butterfly Supreme Speed (cf liulin04)
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Butterfly Gergely T5000
Butterfly Gergely Alpha
Butterfly Keyshot Alpha
Buterfly Ishlion
Butterfly Ai Fukuhara Special
Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN)
Butterfly Haruvatart ZLC (JPEN)
Victas Quartet Speed
Darker Esteem
Nexy Sahara
Nexy Oscar
Adidas Strike Carbon
Cornilleau HinoCarbon OFF+
Donic Persson Dotec OFF
Donic Waldner Dotec Hinoki
Kokutaku Laser Carbon/Power (and maybe Aggrex 44 Carbon, not sure about that)
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I love hinoki-carbon blades!!! 

You can add to your list:

Yinhe Venus V-1
Yinhe Venus V-2
Yinhe T-1 to T-8 (cypress)

Donic Carbo System Off+
Donic Waldner Carbopower

Joola Markovic (same construction as Joola Emotion)

Sanwei HC-1 to HC-7

Andro Hiloom
Andro Treiber Z

Darker Aryl-carbon

I am not sure about Donic Persson Dotec OFF. I played with it and I don't remember it having hinoki outers nor carbon. 
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Thanks for the additions MG, Yogi, Olio, TTping! 89 and counting.

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Treiber Z should be a koto blade
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BTF Innerforce T5000...
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Nittaku hinoblaze.

Sorry, it's not a carbon but well an all wood blade.


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Originally posted by Gauguin Gauguin wrote:

BTF Innerforce T5000...

Isn't Innerforce Limba? 
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Originally posted by JohnnyChop JohnnyChop wrote:

Originally posted by Gauguin Gauguin wrote:

BTF Innerforce T5000...

Isn't Innerforce Limba? 

All Innerforce blades have the following construction:

Limba - limba - fiber - ayous - fiber - limba - limba

So no hinoki in there. 
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Add the new Dr. Neubauer Hercules to your list: Kiso Hinoki with some sort of fiber. I do not know the exact composition since it has a wooden edge guard so you cannot see the plies. Excellent feel and touch. I'd say it is All in slow and touch shots but with a nice catapult when you loop hard with the speed then being more on the Off- side. Best blade if have ever used for anti.
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The Donic Dotec Waldner Hinoki is a 3-ply hinoki blade (no carbon).

there is the Donic Dotec Waldner Carbon but its outer are not hinoki.

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Just updated the list. I deleted the couple that didn't fit the bill and added the ones that were mentioned.
91 and counting...
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My T7 is Arylate Carbon Cypress. I still like it a lot...
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Originally posted by JacekGM JacekGM wrote:

My T7 is Arylate Carbon Cypress. I still like it a lot...
The T series actually uses Juniper instead of Cypress.
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None of the Yinhe t series are made from hinoki
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can't we say juniper and cypress are close enough to hinoki to play the same role in the designer's mind? so they could fit the bill here? I know purists will not agree but there is some room to argue that way isn't it?
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Thanks a lot for all your work. I went quickly trough the list and made some spelling corrections and comments in red: 

Butterfly Gergley 21 Gergely 21

Butterfly Amultmart ZL Carbon Amultart ZL Carbon

Butterfly Gergley T5000 Gergely T5000

 

Buttterfly Gergley Alpha Gergely Alpha

 

Butterfly Ishilon Ishlion

 

Butterfly Riu Seung Min ZLC (JPEN) Ryu Seung Min ZLC

 

Cornilleau Hinotec OFF+

Cornileau Hino Carbon OFF+


These 2 Cornilleau are the same blades. The correct name is cornilleau hinotec off+ carbon

 

Donic Persson Dotec Off 


I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon.



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Thanks again for the input. Tough call on the T Series blades. From what I can tell Hinoki is specific type of Cypress as well as Juniper is in the Cypress family. All being in the same family, is that enough to be classified as hinoki. I just decided to keep this list as just Hinoki so I eliminated the T Series blades. If there are other Cypress and Juniper blades on this list let me know, as I can take them off as well.
 
Ttping- Thanks for the spelling corrections and other contributions. I think I fixed them.
 
Ttprof- Anywhere you can confirm the blade is Hinoki? It doesn't look hinoki from the pics that I've seen.
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I agree with fatt. The Yinhe T-series really play similar to hinoki-carbon, enough to be on the list.
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No one has posted about the Avalox J-Arimid, I believe it has Hinoki outer ply.
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it's already in the list just spelled this way:

AVX J-Aramid
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Originally posted by ttping85 ttping85 wrote:

Donic Persson Dotec Off 


I am pretty sure this blade does not have hinoki outers nor carbon.



 
Well, according to the official Donic website the blade composition is

0,6 Hinoki
Dotec
0,6 Koto
5,0 Dotec-Balsa
0,6 Koto
Dotec
0,6 Hinoki
 
The Dotec should be some kind of synthetic fiber, maybe there is no carbon in it, but it seems to be a composite blade with hinoki outers for shure, same applies to the Waldner Dotec Hinoki. Dotec technology is not only about the strange handle, it implies also composite layers if you think that you can trust Donic on this:)  
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