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Interesting price 


They did not mention it is Kiso hinoki or not. Also did not provide a weight. Is this the one Hleet is so fascinated about?
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Darker Hy blade speed 90 do come with

1. FL (9mm)
2. Cpen (9mm)
3. Jpen (10mm and 10.5mm)

The Hy blade speed 90 are selected hinoki.
They do have denser grain...smaller dragon eyes..least vibration than regular SP90

Maybe our wise Jpenmaster able to give a better explanation the differences between hy blade and regular SP90.
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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Interesting price 


They did not mention it is Kiso hinoki or not. Also did not provide a weight. Is this the one Hleet is so fascinated about?


Darker Speed 90 Hinoki (9mm)

$221.20
 



Well, "interesting" is one term that may be used.
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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Interesting price 


They did not mention it is Kiso hinoki or not. Also did not provide a weight. Is this the one Hleet is so fascinated about?

Darker only uses Kiso Hinoki. I get my Darker blades from iruiru.com. They always try to find a weight closest to what I want. I guess ther EJ in me is still alive but has become selective. I only buy Jpen blades now. 
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Ok, can anyone tell is this "Hy" version or regular?
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Just go to google type DARKER HY BLADE SPEED 90...I am sure mytt forum did ever discussed this issue before....the box of Hy blade is different from regular Speed 90.
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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Interesting price 


They did not mention it is Kiso hinoki or not. Also did not provide a weight. Is this the one Hleet is so fascinated about?
It looks like kiso hinoki. If it's real Darker then it must be kiso. I bought my from www.chunhingtt.com in HK.

LNH: can you should some photos of your hyblade speed90, especially the edge shot showing the end grains? Also, I can't locate TaiwanTT site, can you provide a link? Thanks.
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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Interesting price 


They did not mention it is Kiso hinoki or not. Also did not provide a weight. Is this the one Hleet is so fascinated about?
It looks like kiso hinoki. If it's real Darker then it must be kiso. I bought my from www.chunhingtt.com in HK.

LNH: can you should some photos of your hyblade speed90, especially the edge shot showing the end grains? Also, I can't locate TaiwanTT site, can you provide a link? Thanks.


You can buy Darker HY blade Speed 90 from this Taiwan TT shop:

bit.ly/DarkerHYspeed90


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Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

 

You can buy Darker HY blade Speed 90 from this Taiwan TT shop:

bit.ly/DarkerHYspeed90

I dont think so :) Have you tried that link?


Edited by fmarek - 12/22/2018 at 8:07pm
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Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

 

You can buy Darker HY blade Speed 90 from this Taiwan TT shop:

bit.ly/DarkerHYspeed90

I dont think so :) Have you tried that link?

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Originally posted by Soundoff88 Soundoff88 wrote:

http://www.pcstore.com.tw/starwood1999/M30285547.htm
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That is 10,000 Taiwan dollar, or $324.46 (US dollar).
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That's $125 more than I paid for my DS90.
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Hi, I checked darker catalogue for 2011, so far could not find any product labeled with mysterious "hy".

However can someone please translate what is the difference between these two 1 plys?


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Originally posted by hleett hleett wrote:

Originally posted by fmarek fmarek wrote:

Originally posted by Ray Ray wrote:

 

You can buy Darker HY blade Speed 90 from this Taiwan TT shop:

bit.ly/DarkerHYspeed90


I dont think so :) Have you tried that link?



This link doesn't work.


Thanks, it should be working now.

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The link is Ok now, thanks. 

Well, $10k NT which is about $325 USD. Looks "a bit" over priced to me.


Edited by fmarek - 12/23/2018 at 8:07am
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Thats what I paid for my HY BLADE speed 90 (jpen/FL/Cpen) If you want higher grade hinoki you need to pay more. But, if you are happy with your current SP90 commercial, just stay what you have now. HY BLADE speed 90 are made with lmited quantities, thats is why you dont see that hy blade on
1. tt-japan
2. iruiru
3. tt11

I waited 6 years for that Hy blade speed 90 series. Last time it somewhat appear in 2010, since then it never appear again till 2016.
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Apparently they found more 300 year old trees in the forest.
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I guess I now have one more blade I need to buy. been very happy with the commercial darker Speed 90, but I just have to have the Hy blade. 
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Darker HY blade Speed 90 is unique and exclusive blade. What is exclusive about, let's say JM SZLC?

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Originally posted by LNH LNH wrote:

thats is why you dont see that hy blade on
1. tt-japan
2. iruiru
3. tt11

I waited 6 years for that Hy blade speed 90 series. Last time it somewhat appear in 2010, since then it never appear again till 2016.

Hold on. How on earth you figured out that the blade which is currently sold on tt11 is not HY, while in the link to Taiwan shop given earlier it is? I don't see any difference at all other than price. Actually there is some print on the handle but picture is so crappy that is not readable :)

Same here, price is very high but no HY. http://www.iruiru.com/goods_page.php?ct=B&mk=F&gd=BF069


Edited by fmarek - 12/23/2018 at 6:10pm
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Originally posted by Ranger-man Ranger-man wrote:

I guess I now have one more blade I need to buy. been very happy with the commercial darker Speed 90, but I just have to have the Hy blade. 

Hey Ranger-man,

Would you please post a picture of your blade? The edge shot, the handle and the front edge shot. Please. 

Hleet's blade has insanely dense wood rings - about 180 rings which could be 300 yo tree. I am dying to compare it with yours. So far I am having a feeling that "Hy" stand for hype and nothing else but I am trying to prove myself wrong.
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I found the answer how to differentiate between hy darker and another one. Its printed on the handle :))

Thanks LNH for images!


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I downloaded the edge pic of #G(庚2) from the detail Hyblade photos of the pcstore website. I think this this blade has the most dense grain. I zoomed the pic to actual size in my computer and place a ruler over it and toke this photo:

The middle of the blade is between 8 and 9cm we get 9 rings, but let's take the 11 rings between 9 and 10cm. We get 11x15cm(blade width)=165 rings. A little less than my DS90(commercial version) but close enough.Tongue
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