looping underspin

I don't know if it my technique or my rubbers or topsheet......I can loop topspin and no spin very good but underspin I am having a very hard time........my racket is donic doted AR and I have tried mark V 2.0 and tackfire special soft 2.1 and both of the topsheets and rubbers are pretty soft........I did try a GEWO thunderball as well once and it seemed a bit better and the rubber and topsheet seems firmer than the other 2 rubbers..........I am starting to think it maybe the dwell time on the softer rubbers and topsheets.....any help appreciated

am also thinking it may be my contact point on the ball........I seem to be looping backspin above the center of the ball and maybe I should be contacting the ball a little lower and lifting up a bit with my stroke

It depends on what is happening when you loop the backspin, if you are hitting the ball into the net you need to open your racket face more and hit upward more.  If you are hitting it off the table do the reverse close the face more and swing more forward or level towards the net.  It will take some trial and error to find the correct angle of swing and racket face, but if you can loop no spin you are on your way.  At least you can tell the difference between the spins you are looping which is half the job.

The swing should be up up and up depending upon the amount of backspin on the ball. If you catch the ball of the bounce or at top of bounce you have to do it with less upward motion. If you are taking the ball on the ball brush it below centre and up, you should generate much more racket speed. to get good speed try to bend both at your knees and back and try to bring your head close to the ball. that does for me.

use your waist and legs more, hit "through" the ball more if you want to do a fast loop off backspin. if you want to do a slow spinny one then brush the ball more instead.

Looping underspin requires lots of training AND *really* fast muscles. At the beginning you train to loop against pushes without much backspin. Then you start to train against heavy pushes and the last thing will be training forever against good choppers with a super hard chop. The last step requires maximum handspeed = maximum power while being totally relaxed. It also require excellent timing and a very good eye for the curve of the incoming ball. To loop consistently with enough speed against a very good chopper takes many *years* of training and success won't be guaranteed here because it severely depends on you genetic material (=quality of muscles can only be trained up to a certain point --> you need to be naturally strong to become really good at looping against super hard chop). Soft fast rubbers make life easier and especially tensor rubbers or fresh glueing.

Looping underspin? Is that possible?

Since looping chop is being discussed, does anyone do an inside out loop against chop?

looping underspins not hard once you get the hang of it, the main things are using your body, and timing, since underspin is usually alot slower you move your body down, as the ball comes, then you hit the ball right before it starts to fall, after the bounce, your body moves up and forward, always a combanation of the two, but it varies with the amount of spin, also always make sure that your movement down, is slow and relaxed, and forward needs alot of power and momentum

Me40_Pyx wrote: Gaute wrote: Looping underspin? Is that possible? Was this some kind of a joke i didnt get?....

Me4o don't be angry at the beginers:)

p.s. koga 6e igraem:PPP

looping backspin was impossible when i started, and now it is still hard for me

Ok,sorry for the reaction,i agree it was a bit too ironic....

P.S. @ hristo mi az sega si se pribiram za mesec v bg ama 6e si buda  samo vuv varna :P

some people told me to loop the underspin by leting the ball drop and drop, the ball underspin is at its minumum. the easy way is to use the legs to get down low and add power to the shot.

I seem to have more of a problem trying to slam a high underspin loop, would it be better if i loop it back and go on the defensive?

Just Do It wrote: I seem to have more of a problem trying to slam a high underspin loop, would it be better if i loop it back and go on the defensive?

Maybe this is repeating the confusion above, but what is an underspin loop?  Do you mean a loop someone hit against your underspin?