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    Posted: 07/12/2020 at 2:11pm
Last time I played TT was in early March, in a league play.
I haven't played any ever since.

A week or so ago, I suddenly got this "lower back pain", it just won't go away and getting worse.
When I was playing in recent years, did I "fall" and got hurt badly?
No, never.  My falls were not heavy, never got hurt.

Our club, right now, does not open for play.
When it does open, hope my lower back pain will heal so that I can play.

Any tips to deal with this problem?



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Only advice I can give is to rest. I suffer with low back pain since 2010, when I dislocated something in my spine pushing a heavy pallet.
Since then my back always hurts when I practice and it takes at least 4 days to recover. Then I play again and more rest is needed. This is a kind of routine for me.
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Hi, a 60yo+ man who still plays at the 2k level had his lower back pain issue resolved by practicing yoga. 

It's all about strengthening the core so pilates would help too.


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rest.  Foam roller.  Weight loss.  Ibuprofen.  Heating pads. 

Here's a trick that works for me, but you can only do it if you have two bathtubs where you live.   Fill one with cold water,  the other very warm.  Get into the warm.  Ten minutes.  Than as quickly as you can,  go to the cold one and get  in.  Stay awhile.  It is not fun.  Go back and forth a couple of times. 
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Originally posted by stiltt stiltt wrote:

Hi, a 60yo+ man who still plays at the 2k level had his lower back pain issue resolved by practicing yoga. 

It's all about strengthening the core so pilates would help too.

I got some back pain when I tried to lift a 250 lb log into the back of my pickup.  I've always done yoga and my wife is a yoga teacher trainer, she told me to do 10 "cat, cow" poses every day.  I also like childs pose.  Not a problem since.  
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train your core and back
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Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

I got some back pain when I tried to lift a 250 lb log into the back of my pickup.  I've always done yoga and my wife is a yoga teacher trainer, she told me to do 10 "cat, cow" poses every day.  I also like childs pose.  Not a problem since.  
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Thank you very much for so many responses.
I'll give it a shot on this one, and see if it will help.

There are many video of "cat, cow" poses on the web.          
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I found "Tone & Tighten" very valuable, e.g. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv3lKPAy53c
No back pain anymore since I do these excercises. Also I started sleeping on a hard mattress with wood board underneath with a pillow under my knees but not under my head. Much better posture.
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google professor Stuart McGill. Ten minutes per day with his big three exercises have completely cured my 10+ yrs of lower back pain.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

I got some back pain when I tried to lift a 250 lb log into the back of my pickup.  I've always done yoga and my wife is a yoga teacher trainer, she told me to do 10 "cat, cow" poses every day.  I also like childs pose.  Not a problem since.  
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Thank you very much for so many responses.
I'll give it a shot on this one, and see if it will help.

There are many video of "cat, cow" poses on the web.          
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Tried many things, they did not work for me.
Went to see a doctor.
After his careful evaluation, in that I did not suffer any physical injury, the doctor prescribed some kind of "muscle relaxant" - a few days later the back pain was gone.
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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Last time I played TT was in early March, in a league play.
I haven't played any ever since.

A week or so ago, I suddenly got this "lower back pain", it just won't go away and getting worse.
When I was playing in recent years, did I "fall" and got hurt badly?
No, never.  My falls were not heavy, never got hurt.

Our club, right now, does not open for play.
When it does open, hope my lower back pain will heal so that I can play.

Any tips to deal with this problem?


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Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by mts388 mts388 wrote:

I got some back pain when I tried to lift a 250 lb log into the back of my pickup.  I've always done yoga and my wife is a yoga teacher trainer, she told me to do 10 "cat, cow" poses every day.  I also like childs pose.  Not a problem since.  
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Thank you very much for so many responses.
I'll give it a shot on this one, and see if it will help.

There are many video of "cat, cow" poses on the web.          
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Tried many things, they did not work for me.
Went to see a doctor.
After his careful evaluation, in that I did not suffer any physical injury, the doctor prescribed some kind of "muscle relaxant" - a few days later the back pain was gone.

Muscle relaxants are a pretty common approach. Sometimes they work.   They definitely help people sleep at night with bad back pain, which itself probably promotes recovery.  

A lot of the time the only way to see physical damage is with an MRI, but back pain can be bad without any detectable change even with that.  And there doesn't seem to be any one treatment that works for everybody.  

I sympathize with anybody dealing with this.
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Muscle imbalances is a very common problem for lower back pain. And it differs from people to people. I had no issue with weak core, but my gluteus medius was lagging behind. Once I found it (by trying exercises for different muscle groups) and started strengthening them, my problems with lower back pain ended for good. Also you should check if there are no structural problems with with spine first ofcourse.
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Of course, a lot of back problems resolve by themselves just with time. 
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While my lower back-pain was resolved by a prescription drug of "muscle relaxant", I took it for only 4 or 5 days, the lower back-pain was gone - just discovered that I have a left-over pain on the upper thigh.

Now I have to deal with that.  Sucks.
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Skip, this  could be related to the back problem. If there is inflammation in the vicinity of the sensory nerves they enter through the little passage ways into your spine or if the passages are getting constricted (stenosed) it can cause pain in your legs, sometimes even down to your toes.  It often happens when a vertebral disc herniates or bulges out and puts pressure on part of the nerve root.  This is called a radiculopathy (or sciatica in more common terms).  If it continues it could be that. Sometimes  a 6 day treatment with a cortisone type drug (a Medrol pack) can  make it go away but not always.

Alternatively if your previous back pain made you change the way you walk it could cause that for a few days.

If it persists go back to the doctor, ask about a Medrol pack..  If you have diabetes or high blood sugar be sure to tell him.  



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Skip, I am sorry to hear about your problem.

"Last time I played TT was in early March, in a league play.
I haven't played any ever since.
A week or so ago, I suddenly got this "lower back pain", it just won't go away and getting worse.
When I was playing in recent years, did I "fall" and got hurt badly?
No, never.  My falls were not heavy, never got hurt."

Sciatica... at least in my case, almost eliminated me from my professional (... not TT, of course :-) ) activity for a moment, have not played since ca. May 2018... yet. There was no fall or hurting it, L4-L5 area just went bad (inherniated) after one of the tournaments in 2017 (played a 1800 guy who was admitted as rated 1200, took a game from him after a very close match that probably cost me this...). Looong recovery. That same year moved to a different State. Very busy at work ever since. Now really ready to resume TT, in spite of the latter...

Missed This Forum very much.

"Our club, right now, does not open for play.
When it does open, hope my lower back pain will heal so that I can play."

Currently hoping for two things: (a) will be in a club, (b) the club will be open for play.

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Spend few minutes daily stretching, doing yoga, warm up before matches etc but most importantly unsubscribe from Netflix
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Ok, we've had 2 players that had lower back pain recently and they both had to have surgery.  They lived with it for a long time and did the stretching, muscle relaxers, etc., but eventually they had an MRI and the surgeon told them they needed to have surgery.  The surgery was minimally invasive for both players and after laying off for about 3-4 weeks they were both back playing.  They have been great now for the past few months and no more pain.  We also have a couple of players that are physical therapists and they looked at the MRIs and X-rays and concurred with the surgeons.
We also have a player at our club that has a pain-management center and his first choice for many people is to get the shot to take care of the pain.  At the very least you should get an X-ray or MRI and go from there.  Hopefully it will be ok to just do the therapy.

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Originally posted by AcudaDave AcudaDave wrote:

Ok, we've had 2 players that had lower back pain recently and they both had to have surgery.  They lived with it for a long time and did the stretching, muscle relaxers, etc., but eventually they had an MRI and the surgeon told them they needed to have surgery.  The surgery was minimally invasive for both players and after laying off for about 3-4 weeks they were both back playing.  They have been great now for the past few months and no more pain.  We also have a couple of players that are physical therapists and they looked at the MRIs and X-rays and concurred with the surgeons.
We also have a player at our club that has a pain-management center and his first choice for many people is to get the shot to take care of the pain.  At the very least you should get an X-ray or MRI and go from there.  Hopefully it will be ok to just do the therapy.


That was my experience also.  I p,aged after 3 weeks (very gently) and was 100% by 6 weeks.  That was ten years ago.  Surgery completely solved the problem.  I have a  small, 1 inch scar from the incision.   I've had minor recurrences of back pain but nothing like the disc herniation that happened back then.   Not everyone has such a great outcome but surgical methods have improved a lot.
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