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MLTT draft tonight at 5pm  on youtube. Should be interesting. Who will go in the 1st round?
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I hope Kanak Jha has signed up. He is really missed.
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Originally posted by Twiddler Twiddler wrote:

I hope Kanak Jha has signed up. He is really missed.
Yes! I'd love to see him be a part of this.
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TTBL (which started this weekend, by the way) doesn't allow its players to compete in another league during the same season, so Kanak will probably stay out of this and focus on helping Grenzau once his suspension is over.

I suppose this is the MLTT YouTube channel:
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Full draft results:


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Each team is required to have one woman on the roster - it seems 9 were picked, in the following order:

Amy Wang
Matilda Ekholm
Hong Lin
Lily Zhang
Fabiola Diaz
Rachel Sung
Angela Guan
Emily Tan
Ying Wang

So the Texas Smash picked not 1 but 2 women.

What happens if the female player (for example Lily Zhang) isn't available on a matchday?



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I like the Golden Game concept of alternating players within a game.  I had thought about doing something similar where I play whenever it got too busy.
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How did Lei Kou not go first overall or in the first round?  There must be a logic underlying the picks that is not transparent to the informed table tennis fan...
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Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:

Each team is required to have one woman on the roster - it seems 9 were picked, in the following order:

Amy Wang
Matilda Ekholm
Hong Lin
Lily Zhang
Fabiola Diaz
Rachel Sung
Angela Guan
Emily Tan
Ying Wang

So the Texas Smash picked not 1 but 2 women.

What happens if the female player (for example Lily Zhang) isn't available on a matchday?


I suspect there will still be room to put undrafted players on rosters, especially women. 
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So, any opinions on which team did the best in the draft? Was it Portland because they got Lei Kou in the second round or was it another team? 
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I don't know twenty or so of those names... but Florida seems to have good depth and experience.
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Lei kou is 35 and on a steep decline.
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This was a "draft" for promotional purposes only. Clearly not the order in which the players were actually selected by the teams. Players were given the option to limit their availability to only west or only east teams, and there were probably other factors involved as well in putting the rosters together. Koi Lei is the strongest player in the league. I think Carolina might have the strongest roster, led by Enzo Angles and Romain Lorentz with Jeremy Hazin a strong number three if he's in form.
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I have no insider knowledge regarding the draft and the following is pure speculation from my side.

I like to think that the players were selected in the order announced in the video. One thing people might have missed is that the Portland Paddlers had the 8th and the 9th pick. They were using a "snake" (?) system, i.e. working their way backwards in Round 2. So you could argue that there is no difference between the 8th and 9th pick.

The decision makers of each team probably picked someone in the first round they have a personal relationship with. In addition, the budget of each team probably is important, e.g. pay and travel costs.

"Players were given the option to limit their availability to only west or only east teams." This surely had a big influence on the draft as mentioned by Slowhand.
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Some of the choices and the order of the choices were baffling to say the least.  I did hear that some of the players cannot play all the rounds because of having previous commitments to play internationally, so that might have had something to do with some of the strange picks. 
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Originally posted by ABT ABT wrote:

Lei kou is on a steep decline.

This is simply untrue, but okay. The only players in this league I see giving him trouble are Enzo who went first pick, Gorak who went second pick, and Tao and Jinbao. 


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Originally posted by talltimber talltimber wrote:

So, any opinions on which team did the best in the draft? Was it Portland because they got Lei Kou in the second round or was it another team? 

Bay Area Blasters seem like the easy favorite to me, if Lily is in attendance at the meets.
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Originally posted by bard romance bard romance wrote:

Originally posted by ABT ABT wrote:

Lei kou is on a steep decline.

This is simply untrue, but okay. The only players in this league I see giving him trouble are Enzo who went first pick, Gorak who went second pick, and Tao and Jinbao. 

The league might have a team tennis type format if the pilot that was shown on ESPN is true to form.  So one player will not dominate or win matches in quite the same way as they would in a regular league (I like the Indian league format, but the MLTT pilot seems a bit more in the spirit of team tennis).
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Originally posted by Chairman Meow Chairman Meow wrote:

Originally posted by ander999 ander999 wrote:

Originally posted by amateur amateur wrote:


What would the pay be like?


Not sure they disclose that information until after you are drafted. It isn't readily available anywhere.


Earlier this year (April?) they had a presentation for players interested in the draft that covered some of this information. I forget the numbers but there is some base pay per appearance on the thousand dollar scale plus smaller bonuses for winning games, especially the golden game. There may also have been some pay just for being on a team, but I don't recall that as clearly. I'll see if I can find the information again.

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Between $1k and $2k per appearance, plus the team is playing for a percentage of a purse each weekend. There will be a Final Four tournament worth quite a bit of money with the winner taking the lions share. At the seasons end there will be individual bonuses paid out to the top point earners. Throw in the possibility for endorsements, players can do all right playing one weekend per month in The MLTT.

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Originally posted by Lem496 Lem496 wrote:

Between $1k and $2k per appearance, plus the team is playing for a percentage of a purse each weekend. There will be a Final Four tournament worth quite a bit of money with the winner taking the lions share. At the seasons end there will be individual bonuses paid out to the top point earners. Throw in the possibility for endorsements, players can do all right playing one weekend per month in The MLTT.
not so bad (in comparison to WTT tournament purses) if travel expenses are paid by the MLTT
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I believe most expenses including food will be covered. MLTTs CEO and founder Flint Lane is determined to make this a world class league. This is a great first step

Edited by Lem496 - 08/30/2023 at 7:01am
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Originally posted by Lem496 Lem496 wrote:

I believe most expenses including food will be covered. MLTTs CEO and founder Flint Lane is determined to make this a world class league. This is a great first step

I know Flint and hope the league will be successful. I'm just not sure how world class it can get with its nonstandard format of several 1 game contests and a golden game.

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Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:

Originally posted by Lem496 Lem496 wrote:

I believe most expenses including food will be covered. MLTTs CEO and founder Flint Lane is determined to make this a world class league. This is a great first step

I know Flint and hope the league will be successful. I'm just not sure how world class it can get with its nonstandard format of several 1 game contests and a golden game.


Agreed.  Similar things are done in team tennis but to be honest, I almost never watch team tennis.

I would have thought the mix the Indian leagues struck was close to ideal but I guess we have to see what happens.
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Personally I prefer  a 2 table format. One table can get boring. 2 rarely does and sometimes  the drama can double.

In the German league a long time ago we had 2 tables and the spectators loved it. Then TV and short attention spans became the norm.
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Originally posted by heavyspin heavyspin wrote:


I know Flint and hope the league will be successful. I'm just not sure how world class it can get with its nonstandard format of several 1 game contests and a golden game.


Each of the 5 single matches does include 3 games - it's just that each game counts 1 point for the team, like in the Indian league. I think that's fine and not too disjointed.
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I know Flint as well, rarely does he fail at what he sets his mind to. He’s adapts and gives the consumer what they want. The man has an exceptional track record, I wouldn’t bet against him or the league.
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What's the format going to be like?  does all 9 players from each team all gets to play too?

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[QUOTE=liulin04]What's the format going to be like?  does all 9 players from each team all gets to play too?

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