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jrscatman
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Posted: 10/15/2013 at 11:20am |
Hello,
Would like some tips on how to properly feed multiballs in a training session. I was told always bounce the ball on the table before hitting it - as it simulates real game situation. Others suggestions and tips would be much appreciated Thanks in advance I guess this is an extreme example |
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It helps to have a bucket with very wide top because it is easier to pick up balls with left hand without looking. Having it on a rolling platform is really helpful too.
Chinese coaches here sometimes bounce on table and sometimes don't depending on shots they are training. For me it is harder to deliver a good ball without bouncing. I am getting better with practice. Finding the perfect bucket helped a lot. |
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AcudaDave
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that guy feeding the balls was really good. My son takes lessons every couple of weeks from a Chinese coach that is great at feeding multiball, but he usually stands on the side of the table and bounces the ball on the table first. I like the way this guy was standing behind the table and topspinning the balls out of his hand.
One thing my son's coach and I did add to the multiball session last time was for me to block my son's loop back so he could put it away. His coach would feed underspin balls from the side of the table to my son's BH for him to loop. I stood behind the table to block back his BH loop until he missed or looped a winner.
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bouncing the ball on the table before hitting it from right behind the net on the left side (for right handed feeders) is simply easier to learn; the feeder in the video above is showing absolute top class feeding in terms of tempo regularity. He is simply amazing.
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I got nervous just watching that video
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jrscatman
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Thanks for the suggestions. Rhythm and Tempo - that's what I am missing. I have difficulty maintaining a constant rhythm (this could be because I have box holding the balls on the table as opposed to off to the side of the table - as Baal suggested proper holder might help).
Actually, watching the video again - I noticed, he's not actually looking at the ball as he is hitting it. (He is spectacular to watch - first time I watched the video it Zhang Jike - I saw...now I only see the feeder!).
Edited by jrscatman - 10/15/2013 at 1:18pm |
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It is intimidating!
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There is many ways to feed (bounce or not), and places to stand.
There is no right and wrong, or best or better, but depends what you want to achieve. Bouncing the ball is slower though, so for fast frequencies, you won't see coaches bouncing. Standing by net, half way, or end of the table also have different reasons. At the end of the day, any body can become a good feeder. watch and learn, and then feed few thousdan balls a day |
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jrscatman
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ZApenholder - Thanks, can you expand on the different reasons for standing halfway or back of the table?
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Sure thing,
Obviously, closer towards the player, the ball will be coming faster, and focus more on footwork than oppose to stroke. There is more speed than oppose to spin generated from the feeder. At back of the table, the ball takes longer to travel, and the arc is more "match like", and this is more realistic in terms of spin and speed but for top level players as this is both footwork and stroke. (Imagine a 10 - 20 ball rally being close to the table.) Feeding from back of the table is also more tiring for the feeder. The whole idea for us (non pros) is the feeding speed need to be faster than what we can handle, so it make us move and improves. Imagine some one feed for you from far from the table, but does a bounce feed and low frequency. Your movement will be non existant, and the whole training will do more harm than good etc. I will feed at the net for beginners and mostly it is mid to far for the rest. Here is a mid and long video from my FB album with mortal players https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=205954799567750&set=vb.443481379036123&type=3&video_source=pages_video_set https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=205933749569855&set=vb.443481379036123&type=3&video_source=pages_video_set |
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I like it!! I think I will start to incorporate some more multiball into our practices.
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My main reference that made me want to learn feeding is that clip from coachtt123 (#36 video):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c The pro feeder and coach is at 2 min 20 sec: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hu80P4MpF3c&feature=player_detailpage&t=139 This is how I do it: basin on the table and one bounce on my side. |
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Not sure if it is just me but, i feel with Cpen it is easier to feed without bounce, while SH, I can feed with both bounce or no bounce.
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tony is correct. let me also add that no bounce feed can be used for sudden fast balls in a random bh-fh drillas it simulates the ball being countered close to the table. imo, feeding with bounce offers more control on your placement because you are using mostly your wrist but i find the no bounce feeding more spinny and faster if you are outside the table feeding on the other end
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Probably the most important feed to get good at first is the underspin feed and that is always a bounce feed. You want to try to keep the bounce as low as possible and still strike the ball. Allot of the sequences you see the pros do almost always start off with a underspin ball fed off the bounce and then topspin balls fed out of the hand.
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jrscatman
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Thanks ZApenholder Yes, my concern was grooving bad habits for beginners by feeding incorrectly.
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