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    Posted: 02/19/2021 at 2:51pm
Hi I found this videos of the new spectol and spinpips versions of Victas
but they re in japanese
any who can translate?
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Spectol S1 = old spectol
Spinpips D1 = TSP Spinpips
Spinpips D3 = TSP Spinpips chop sponge 2
Spinpips D2 = new very agressive soft fast with rotation like the Victas Vo102 but this one is fully made in China on purpose

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Originally posted by Rinforzando Rinforzando wrote:

Spectol S1 = old spectol
Spinpips D1 = TSP Spinpips
Spinpips D3 = TSP Spinpips chop sponge 2
Spinpips D2 = new very agressive soft fast with rotation like the Victas Vo102 but this one is fully made in China on purpose


what about the other spectol versions?
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you can say goodbye to them
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Originally posted by Rinforzando Rinforzando wrote:

you can say goodbye to them

I meant S2 and S3
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new spectol. From what I understand Spectol S2 will be a bit like Vo101, with a lot of sink and deception.
I dunno for S3
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Originally posted by Rinforzando Rinforzando wrote:

new spectol. From what I understand Spectol S2 will be a bit like Vo101, with a lot of sink and deception.
I dunno for S3

I think 101 is a rubber for not let the opponent play.it would be great a rubber with that deception and easyness to attack. a friend told me that S3 has more deception than S2
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Any Japanese readers can confirm if the new S/D rubbers are just rebranding or completely different from the TSP Spectol/Spinpips Reds?

If the latter, I'd better stock up.
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Some are just rebranding and some are totally new
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tsp spinpips red/blue and tsp spectol red/blue will unfortunately disappear forever :(
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Originally posted by lasta lasta wrote:

Any Japanese readers can confirm if the new S/D rubbers are just rebranding or completely different from the TSP Spectol/Spinpips Reds?

If the latter, I'd better stock up.

Hope someone can test them.


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Is that what you think or did TSP/Victas say that? 
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Originally posted by Rinforzando Rinforzando wrote:

tsp spinpips red/blue and tsp spectol red/blue will unfortunately disappear forever :(

Is that what you think or did TSP/Victas say that? 
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They said that.
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Viscaria FL - 91g
+ Neo H3 2.15 Blk - 44.5g(55.3g uncut bare)
+ Hexer HD 2.1 Red - 49.3g(68.5g 〃 〃)
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by Rinforzando Rinforzando wrote:

tsp spinpips red/blue and tsp spectol red/blue will unfortunately disappear forever :(

Is that what you think or did TSP/Victas say that? 

Spectol  blue was the best rubber of all of them. 


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Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Check out the links in that post.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24725-TSP-Super-Ventus-and-Ventus-Spin-Anyone-played-with-it&p=335280&viewfull=1#post335280

Thanks for the info. Dang I actually usually TSP Spectol Red and enjoy it. Sad to see it go away now. 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Check out the links in that post.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24725-TSP-Super-Ventus-and-Ventus-Spin-Anyone-played-with-it&p=335280&viewfull=1#post335280

Thanks for the info. Dang I actually usually TSP Spectol Red and enjoy it. Sad to see it go away now. 

Have you seen the Spectol S2 video?
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Check out the links in that post.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24725-TSP-Super-Ventus-and-Ventus-Spin-Anyone-played-with-it&p=335280&viewfull=1#post335280

Thanks for the info. Dang I actually usually TSP Spectol Red and enjoy it. Sad to see it go away now. 

Have you seen the Spectol S2 video?

Not yet I believe. Got a link?
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Check out the links in that post.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24725-TSP-Super-Ventus-and-Ventus-Spin-Anyone-played-with-it&p=335280&viewfull=1#post335280

Thanks for the info. Dang I actually usually TSP Spectol Red and enjoy it. Sad to see it go away now. 

Have you seen the Spectol S2 video?

Not yet I believe. Got a link?



it would be nice to know what he s saying.




 


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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by zeio zeio wrote:

Check out the links in that post.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/showthread.php?24725-TSP-Super-Ventus-and-Ventus-Spin-Anyone-played-with-it&p=335280&viewfull=1#post335280

Thanks for the info. Dang I actually usually TSP Spectol Red and enjoy it. Sad to see it go away now. 

Have you seen the Spectol S2 video?

Not yet I believe. Got a link?



it would be nice to know what he s saying.


Agreed. Yeah from the catalog it seems the S1 is just the normal spectol and the other 2 are something else. I think he said the S3 might be the fastest of the 3 from the video because he did mention high tension but I could be wrong. 

 


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I've read it somewhere and not sure if the information is correct

s1 - old spectol

s2 - old spectol topsheet with new sponge

s3 - new topsheet and new sponge
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Originally posted by junjun0857 junjun0857 wrote:

I've read it somewhere and not sure if the information is correct

s1 - old spectol

s2 - old spectol topsheet with new sponge

s3 - new topsheet and new sponge

Whats the features of the new topsheetS3? Is S2 like spectol 21,normal or speed?
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Originally posted by mykonos96 mykonos96 wrote:

Originally posted by junjun0857 junjun0857 wrote:

I've read it somewhere and not sure if the information is correct

s1 - old spectol

s2 - old spectol topsheet with new sponge

s3 - new topsheet and new sponge

Whats the features of the new topsheetS3? Is S2 like spectol 21,normal or speed?

It will have smaller pips than S1, btw the new sponge are tension sponge
I've no idea of how the pips plays. 


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Originally posted by junjun0857 junjun0857 wrote:

I've read it somewhere and not sure if the information is correct

s1 - old spectol

s2 - old spectol topsheet with new sponge

s3 - new topsheet and new sponge

Do you happen to know where we can find this information to verify? 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:

Originally posted by junjun0857 junjun0857 wrote:

I've read it somewhere and not sure if the information is correct

s1 - old spectol

s2 - old spectol topsheet with new sponge

s3 - new topsheet and new sponge

Do you happen to know where we can find this information to verify? 

its in the comment session https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Be5_vzHWdXk.
someone asked for the summarised version.
so im not sure if the info is 100% correct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaoYjUrrG5s
this is another video of s2 and s3, compared with moristo sp.


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I've had a sheet of Spectol S2 and S3 arrive today. Since clubs will not be open in the UK for a couple of weeks due to Covid restrictions, I can't really tell you too much at this stage other than some mesurements and photos and a few impressions from bouncing a ball.



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The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.
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Originally posted by Sedis Sedis wrote:

The S2 was slightly heavier and harder at 43g and 46 degrees Shore O, The S3 was 40g and 44 degrees Shore O.

The S2 has an orange sponge which seems to soak up glue a bit more than the S3.

The S3 sponge looks very similar to TSP Spectol Red, but is closer in hardness to Spectol Blue.

The top sheets for both are a slightly darker red colour and look slightly less matt/more shiny, very similar to Nittaku Sonic AR.

When bouncing a ball, S2 feels very similar to Spectol blue.

It is very difficult to tell without actually playing, but doing some spin tests, it feels like S2 has a similar amount of grip to Spectol Red/Blue, possibly very slightly less.

S3 feels like it has less grip, but until I actually play with them, I don't know for sure.

Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 
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Originally posted by Shiro Shiro wrote:


Thank you for the comparisons. When you get the chance to test out the Victas Spectols, do you mind posting which one plays and feels more closely related to the TSP Spectol Red? 

Will do - I'm looking for a long term replacement for Spectol Red, as although I have a couple of sheets left, I will have to change eventually.

It is a bit frustrating it comes in 2.0mm or 1.6mm, with no 1.8mm, so already that is something different.
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