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Will ITTF Americas youtube channel have tonight’s matches live, anyone know? Or some other place? 

Nikhil Kumar vs Brian Afanador
Kanak Jha vs someone from CUB




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Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Will ITTF Americas youtube channel have tonight’s matches live, anyone know? Or some other place? 

Nikhil Kumar vs Brian Afanador
Kanak Jha vs someone from CUB



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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Will ITTF Americas youtube channel have tonight’s matches live, anyone know? Or some other place? 

Nikhil Kumar vs Brian Afanador
Kanak Jha vs someone from CUB



Kanak Jha struggling with Andy Pereira of Cuba.. down 3-1 but came back to 3-2...


So the winner of each KO gets one of the four slots?
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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Will ITTF Americas youtube channel have tonight’s matches live, anyone know? Or some other place? 

Nikhil Kumar vs Brian Afanador
Kanak Jha vs someone from CUB



Kanak Jha struggling with Andy Pereira of Cuba.. down 3-1 but came back to 3-2...


So the winner of each KO gets one of the four slots?
I think so - after the first two KOs are complete, they run the next two

Kanak came back for 4-3.  Lots of German/French league landmines in there for both Nikhil and Kanak to navigate so good luck to both of them.
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You can watch on the ITTF Americas app but you'll need to purchase access, for something like $15.

Nikhil is in the final of his knockout after a 4-1 win over Mino, will face Santiago Lorenzo of Argentina.
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Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

You can watch on the ITTF Americas app but you'll need to purchase access, for something like $15.

Nikhil is in the final of his knockout after a 4-1 win over Mino, will face Santiago Lorenzo of Argentina.

Thank you. Not very clear about the 4 KO format, Nikhil only has one more final win to secure a spot for Paris? 

Or does he have more than that final match to play before securing? 

Same for Kanak. Do they secure spot after a final win in their respective KO1 or KO2?

 If not, after KO1/2 winners are decided, there are more to play in KO3/4 before deciding who get spots for Paris? 

Who/how many get to compete in KO 3/4 then? 

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Originally posted by jfolsen jfolsen wrote:

So the winner of each KO gets one of the four slots?

Not sure about that, ko 3 and 4 have no draws as of now, “upcoming” it says …

Also unclear how many Paris spots are up for grab, 2 or 4…
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It was a while ago, but I read that there were 4 slots.
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Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

You can watch on the ITTF Americas app but you'll need to purchase access, for something like $15.

Nikhil is in the final of his knockout after a 4-1 win over Mino, will face Santiago Lorenzo of Argentina.

Thank you. Not very clear about the 4 KO format, Nikhil only has one more final win to secure a spot for Paris? 

Or does he have more than that final match to play before securing? 

Same for Kanak. Do they secure spot after a final win in their respective KO1 or KO2?

 If not, after KO1/2 winners are decided, there are more to play in KO3/4 before deciding who get spots for Paris? 

Who/how many get to compete in KO 3/4 then? 


Pretty confident that whoever wins the KO qualifies, and then there is re-seeding based on the results of the KO for the next KOs, and then whoever wins those qualifies as well.
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4 spots are up for grabs.

Nikhil is 1 win away from qualifying, by winning KO1.
If he loses in the final, he will be the top seed of either KO3 or KO4.

Kanak’s semifinal match in KO2 has started.


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Kanak is struggling

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Originally posted by Vtomar Vtomar wrote:

Kanak is struggling


Marcelo is a strong player, German League (Bundesliga) regular and a lefty as well.  One of the landmines I was talking about in my post of player they have to avoid.  Better luck next time, Kanak.  You just have to win the next round vs Madrid or maybe Marcelo again...


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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Pretty confident that whoever wins the KO qualifies, and then there is re-seeding based on the results of the KO for the next KOs, and then whoever wins those qualifies as well.

I see, that explains it (KO 3/4 upcoming), thanks
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by Vtomar Vtomar wrote:

Kanak is struggling


Marcelo is a strong player, German League (Bundesliga) regular and a lefty as well.  One of the landmines I was talking about in my post of player they have to avoid.  Better luck next time, Kanak.  You just have to win the next round vs Madrid or maybe Marcelo again...

Marcelo won't have to play again as he has already qualified for Paris by beating Kanak Jha
Lorezzo won't have to play again as he has already qualified for Paris by beating  Nikhil Kumar

Nikhil & Kanak will get another chance in Round 2  (KO3 & KO4)

Below is the rules webpage

The draws for second stage (KO3 & K04) will appear in web page below

The 2 winners of KO3 & KO4 (along with winners of KO1 & KO2 (Marcelo & Lorenzzo)  will be the total 4 who will goto Paris









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Marcelo lost to Marcos Madrid in the KO2 final, so it is Madrid who qualifies.
Madrid is a PingPod-sponsored player and I see him on the video screens repeatedly when I play at PingPod lol.
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Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Marcelo lost to Marcos Madrid in the KO2 final, so it is Madrid who qualifies.
Madrid is a PingPod-sponsored player and I see him on the video screens repeatedly when I play at PingPod lol.
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Then I guess Kanak or Nikhil will probably face Marcelo again in KO3 or KO4
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Santiago Lorenzo’s reaction after beating Nikhil to qualify https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7AsCmcLIBz/?igsh=ano5NGpzcmMydmNh

On the women’s side, Mo Zhang made her 5th Olympics, without losing a game in 3 matches. Paulina Vega of Chile also qualified. She had a net ball on match point.


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It's an important moment and one to celebrate. He did not shake the hand of Nikhil when it was over. 
 
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Sorry. He did at the end. Congrats.
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Draws for men’s KO3 & KO4. Kanak could meet Aguirre again in the semis 

https://www.instagram.com/p/C7CNjJuLHYd/?igsh=MWM3ODdmNnExZWt3OA==

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Originally posted by dewnyc dewnyc wrote:

Draws for men’s KO3 & KO4. Kanak could meet Aguirre again in the semis 


Women’s draws

Kanak is having a tough time! but it happens that hard starts lead to all pumped up finishes so I remain optimistic. 


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Tough luck drawing the same player (he had trouble with) again. Hope Kanak rise to the occasion and make his own luck. 

It would be a tough pill to swallow if he fails to make to Paris. Had he not been suspended that long, he would have had high enough ittf ranking to go (I suppose) and USA Mens might not even be in this situation of needing to win in Peru to qualify singles, is that correct to say?


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If Kanak and Nikhil both win, do we then get to field a Men's Team? 
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Originally posted by RDinTN RDinTN wrote:

If Kanak and Nikhil both win, do we then get to field a Men's Team? 

No. The US mens team already failed to qualify. 
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Originally posted by RDinTN RDinTN wrote:

If Kanak and Nikhil both win, do we then get to field a Men's Team? 

No, we’d just get 2 Singles spots with both of them competing.

The more interesting question is what if only one of them wins in Peru, does that spot belong to USA or to the player who wins it? 

Obviously the player who wins the spot will/should compete in Paris, the question is only a theoretical one in the unlikely event of an injury situation where he can’t compete. 


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Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Tough luck drawing the same player (he had trouble with) again. Hope Kanak rise to the occasion and make his own luck. 

It would be a tough pill to swallow if he fails to make to Paris. Had he not been suspended that long, he would have had high enough ittf ranking to go (I suppose) and USA Mens might not even be in this situation of needing to win in Peru to qualify singles, is that correct to say?

Yes, that is correct to say.  They might even have gotten a Men's spot, Ed Ly is good but he is not beyond Kanak's range.

He can beat Marcelo.  But the draw is tough, and Cifuentes is not chopped liver either.
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Tough luck drawing the same player (he had trouble with) again. Hope Kanak rise to the occasion and make his own luck. 

It would be a tough pill to swallow if he fails to make to Paris. Had he not been suspended that long, he would have had high enough ittf ranking to go (I suppose) and USA Mens might not even be in this situation of needing to win in Peru to qualify singles, is that correct to say?

Yes, that is correct to say.  They might even have gotten a Men's spot, Ed Ly is good but he is not beyond Kanak's range.

He can beat Marcelo.  But the draw is tough, and Cifuentes is not chopped liver either.
isn't Kanak better than LY?
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Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by mmxx mmxx wrote:

Tough luck drawing the same player (he had trouble with) again. Hope Kanak rise to the occasion and make his own luck. 

It would be a tough pill to swallow if he fails to make to Paris. Had he not been suspended that long, he would have had high enough ittf ranking to go (I suppose) and USA Mens might not even be in this situation of needing to win in Peru to qualify singles, is that correct to say?

Yes, that is correct to say.  They might even have gotten a Men's spot, Ed Ly is good but he is not beyond Kanak's range.

He can beat Marcelo.  But the draw is tough, and Cifuentes is not chopped liver either.
isn't Kanak better than LY?

Ed LY won an event where all those guys played - he is not chopped liver.



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Campos beat Aguirre 4-0. Tough for Aguirre to go out like that after being a game away from qualifying in his previous match.

Kanak saved 2 game points in both games 1 & 3 against Daniel Gonzalez, now up 3-0


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Both Kanak and Nikhil are back in the semis.

Nikhil was down 3-2 after being up 2-0, saved 2 match points and won the last 4 points to win 4-3 over Gustavo Gomez of Chile. He gets Pereira next, who came back after dropping the first 2 games.

Nikhil was close to making it all 4 runners-up losing their first match in this 2nd stage. Eva Brito and Daniela Fonseca Carrazana joined Aguirre in doing so.


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