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Topic: *Short game/Service*Techniques (.gif)
Posted By: shij421
Subject: *Short game/Service*Techniques (.gif)
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:30pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:31pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:31pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:32pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:38pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:46pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 4:49pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 5:07pm
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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 5:09pm
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 5:42pm
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Posted By: bordtennisfreak
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 5:46pm
doesnt work

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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 6:26pm
He's probably reserving the slots for 14gifs but has yet to upload them.

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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by dalamchops dalamchops wrote:

He's probably reserving the slots for 14gifs but has yet to upload them.


That must be it...


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Posted By: infinite_loop
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 7:10pm
Originally posted by shij421 shij421 wrote:

http://picasaweb.google.com/shij421/UntitledAlbum/photo?authkey=XGKDCsVXcOE#5163618792585473650 - http://picasaweb.google.com/shij421/UntitledAlbum/photo?authkey=XGKDCsVXcOE#5163618792585473650
 
Nice. Thanks.


Posted By: ffx-me
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 7:14pm
Cool gifs, the last player has some funky serves, in a good way

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Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 7:37pm
does anyone know a website that i can store these gifs and link to them? cuz right now they're in my google pictures and the links have changed for some odd reason Confused

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Posted By: Jon2378
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 8:51pm
photobucket


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 10:56pm
wow forum mod, now thats dedication, thanks heaps dude! hail the canadian! all hail!

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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 02/05/2008 at 11:43pm
imageshack.us      ?


Posted By: le xex
Date Posted: 02/06/2008 at 2:05am
these gifs are very helpful, thanks for posting!


Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 02/06/2008 at 8:56pm
Wait is that Timo in the 3rd one. Why is he using his right hand?

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 02/06/2008 at 8:56pm
Wait now I see it, it was flipped.

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Posted By: ppgear
Date Posted: 02/06/2008 at 10:23pm
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Wait now I see it, it was flipped.

Wow I can't believe I didn't notice that he was using his right hand.



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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 12:21am
same, i keep on getting used to his reverse

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Posted By: chronos
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 2:18am
These images are pure gold!


Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 2:49am
will add more along the way, but all working for now, enjoy



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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 11:26am
help!!  they're not working for me!  what do i do???


Posted By: GenomicsKnight
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 2:50pm
@shij421

Good stuff.  Thanks!


Posted By: ppgear
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 10:44pm
How did you make an animated GIF out of these movies?




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Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 10:47pm
man this is helping alot, normally when we watch games we dont take notice of such things, well for me that is. i think this deserves to be post stickied.

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 10:49pm
I see you flipped the Guo Yue one too.

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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 02/07/2008 at 11:23pm
Also I dont get how to do heat serve that Wang was doin in #6. How do you do that.

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Posted By: DragonSpirit
Date Posted: 02/08/2008 at 12:07am
Wow, I love these Slow Motion gif,
I can watch them over again & again & again until I learn something from them! I need more of these!!!
Thanks shij421!


Posted By: THEMANFZ1
Date Posted: 02/17/2008 at 6:38am
Very nice.  Thanks.


Posted By: peeweeman30
Date Posted: 03/09/2008 at 2:46pm
Thanks! Smile

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Posted By: ernie tumanut
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 4:42am
I was fascinated with the pips out rubber and had browsed for the donic alligator soft pips. Is it hard to adjust using the rubber? What's the best/reliable brand and model?


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 4:44am
what does that have to do with anything?

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Posted By: alpali
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 7:39am
Notice the channel name
"sport" is also reverse


Posted By: jctlee
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 9:31am
Any way these gif can be stored or tagged permanently? They are very valuable as learning tool!!!
Thanks.....


Posted By: shij421
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 10:48am
Originally posted by jctlee jctlee wrote:

Any way these gif can be stored or tagged permanently? They are very valuable as learning tool!!!
Thanks.....


just right click on each gif and save it to ur computer Smile


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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 10:53am
#6 is my favorite serve that i use :P everyone falls for i


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 8:04pm
How the hell do you do it though. IDK how to hold the paddle.

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Posted By: LuckyNet
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 9:54pm

Thank You !

Nice Job Clap

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Posted By: pongmaster
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 10:18pm
oooh never saw that rpb pendulum before at #6

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Posted By: gekogark1212
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 10:19pm
thanks, kudos to you shij!

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Posted By: dalamchops
Date Posted: 03/29/2008 at 12:31am
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

How the hell do you do it though. IDK how to hold the paddle.


hold it penhold, but open up your palm slightly. Twist your arm/racket clockwise. Start w/ paddle at vertical first to put strictly sidespin.


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 03/29/2008 at 7:47pm
I see, I wish someone had an instructional video. It would help alot.

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Posted By: mlskcb
Date Posted: 05/28/2008 at 6:59am
These GIFs are excellent teaching aids. I have been planning to construct a coaching "manual" for ages and these type of videos are perfect. What tools did you use to capture the videos and then create the GIFs?


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/04/2008 at 12:18pm

those clips have such a great teaching value!



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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 07/04/2008 at 3:44pm
who is wang hao playing in no. 5?

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/05/2008 at 12:00am
Ma Lin! I recognized him because I am a fan but to verify I right cliked the .gif file and its title is..."MaLinFlicks.gif"  Tongue

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Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 07/05/2008 at 3:37am
no6. that wang hao serve is interesting!



Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/05/2008 at 11:02am
In #2 "HaoBflick.gif" I'd like to comment Ma's serve:
 
correct me if I am wrong:
 
1)he does a top spin serve.
2)tries to sell it as underspin.
3)finishes by masking the fake underspin with a follow through that is typical of topspin serves.
 
 


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Posted By: cagaragesales
Date Posted: 07/05/2008 at 11:17am
nice!

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 07/05/2008 at 10:50pm
that's just crazy

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 07/06/2008 at 2:13am
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Posted By: knowlagesearch
Date Posted: 09/17/2008 at 8:10pm
Thanks for the effort, really nice......

 

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Posted By: kenshin8
Date Posted: 09/18/2008 at 9:51pm
the last player is Ma Lin...he has some crazy serves lol

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Posted By: kenshin8
Date Posted: 09/18/2008 at 9:52pm
Originally posted by ffx-me ffx-me wrote:

Cool gifs, the last player has some funky serves, in a good way



The last player is Ma Lin...he has some crazy serves...lol


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Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 10/15/2008 at 4:50am
Erm...last player is RSM?

And these are great gifs!! Crap Ma Lin's flips are PERFECT Thumbs%20Up


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Posted By: IAmI
Date Posted: 10/15/2008 at 9:41am
In my opinion MaLin #2 is a side spin serve. Wang returns with a top spin with some good amount of side spin in it. The side spin being not necessarily to trick the opponent but to compensate for the sidespin that was already on the ball from Ma.
The serve, in effect, is very similar to one of the WLQ's favourite serves (jee, it's too hard to describe which one I have in mind, but I love it). Just the action looks totally different as they use different grips.
 
shij421, you kick some pretty serious a$$ with these gifs, thanks!


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Date Posted: 02/05/2009 at 9:20am
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Posted By: MANOLETE
Date Posted: 03/14/2009 at 6:11pm
bien por Juanito el Zhiwen, trincando de Joola

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Posted By: blueflyer_01
Date Posted: 05/11/2009 at 1:51pm
thanks so much shij421 that is great,Thumbs%20UpClap
but i couldn't see after 7


Posted By: redferrari
Date Posted: 10/12/2009 at 1:05pm
Fabulous & Fantabulous!!!



Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 10/30/2009 at 4:13pm
the gifs are gone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted By: answlcjf
Date Posted: 11/03/2009 at 8:27pm
LOL


Posted By: 729 FX
Date Posted: 11/03/2009 at 10:25pm
Yes, going, going gone.
 
But I must say this, the gif.s are informative.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/04/2009 at 1:36am
Actually I have a backup of that 53 MB page somewhere in my archives (I did not want to load all those 53MB each time I wanted to study a serve). I could host the gifs on my online space and edit all the posts (no change in what we see...). what do you think shij?

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/04/2009 at 2:17am
What the heck? I did it.

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Posted By: jpenlover
Date Posted: 06/23/2010 at 11:54am
This is great! Thanks for the effort. I can finally see how Ma Lin flip the ball.

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 08/21/2010 at 2:21am
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Posted By: Penhold_Boy
Date Posted: 09/09/2010 at 7:24am
omg AWESOME!!!!!!! I love #9! I love em all!!!! Clap

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Posted By: EZRO
Date Posted: 10/19/2010 at 9:20am
Nice thanks :D I can play around and experiment my service, I love the #14 it has a short spin, almost a dead ball, good for players who love to drive after a short spin serve, if not the ball will go long and you can play the next ball for offensive move :D 

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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 11/02/2010 at 9:30am
Originally posted by MANOLETE MANOLETE wrote:

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Posted By: qynthnghm
Date Posted: 11/26/2010 at 6:18am
Stared at these for a while at work. Simply awesome and informative. I would particularly love to see some Zhang Jike slow-mo serves.


Posted By: kitzter
Date Posted: 03/29/2011 at 9:32pm
more gif pls 

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Posted By: Timo Boll2
Date Posted: 09/10/2011 at 4:39pm
Aren't these enough for you? If you master these serves, you will have no problem beating opponents much better than you. You know what they say, if your serve is powerful and is good placed, you've almost won the point.

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Posted By: extraSpin
Date Posted: 02/02/2012 at 11:37am
Very informative.  Thanks for posting these.


Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 02/02/2012 at 12:11pm
this thread is part of shij421's legacy on this forum in addition of others (I am thinking of the interview of Borko) and the long moderating time he has given.
I am the one hosting all the gifs in the thread right now (since it was so popular, the free photobucket account refused to keep giving bandwidth for them); a few days before photobucket nixed the gifs I had saved them all on my hard drive to avoid downloading all the time (about 60MB) so we got lucky...


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Posted By: gweipwu
Date Posted: 08/20/2012 at 8:00pm
Thanks Fatt, appreciated!


Posted By: joshuadn11
Date Posted: 01/14/2015 at 3:56pm
Really helpful GIFs once again.

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Posted By: Leftyy
Date Posted: 03/15/2015 at 4:48pm
Thanks for the gifs, anyone got some more? Smile


Posted By: shinimai
Date Posted: 10/08/2016 at 11:52am
I don't know if you guys notice this, but when top players serve short, they move their paddle in a U shape (especially xu xin), meaning they draw back the bat right after contact with the ball.  I've also noticed that their short serves' first bounce is usually near the edge of the table (which is usually for longer serves).


Posted By: chronos
Date Posted: 10/08/2016 at 11:06pm
Man classic post from shij - good forum memories right there!

shinimai you're right, if you can read the first bounce you'll know a lot about the depth of the serve you're facing, a short first bounce is going to be very short.

At my level at least, a short serve better have a good bit of underspin or it's probably dead and can be blasted at will anywhere - super short topspin serves are rare - and the underspin is easy to spot.  If you're serving short keep it low or pay the price.

 Among the pros, "half long" serves that bounce twice or are otherwise close to the edge will have a first bounce closer to the servers end line but become harder to attack.  A weak opening against a half-long ball creates an opportunity: an attackable ball at an ideally predictable location that can be put away.


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Date Posted: 03/11/2018 at 9:12pm
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 03/13/2018 at 10:59pm
in #9, ma lin's 4th ball looks like a net.

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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 11/02/2019 at 11:16am
this is an old thread. The gifs are still there but a bandwidth and hosting issue forced the disconnection. To those who can host those gifs, let us know if you want to get them back up.

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