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Topic: Beginner's Blade Thread
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Beginner's Blade Thread
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 9:08am
Just to start a beginner's blades thread, i will place a list of blades essential for beginners to start with and also will save them a lot of money instead of trying to be an EJ.. I will update this thread based on your suggestions.. When I say beginner's blades i mean beginner's blades NOT SCHLAGER CARBON ET AL!!!

Suggestions:  Updated

Stiga Allround (Clasic, Tube, Evolution)
Stitga Offensive Classic
Stiga Optimum Sync

Donic Waldner/Applegreen Allplay

Jolla Stefan Feth

Buttefly Korbel
Butterfly Primorac
Butterfly Grubba

Dawei Quattro Allround (Limba)

729 instinct series.
Appelgren allplay/ Waldner allplay
Gatien Extra
Gambler Arylate Carbon - yes it's about All+/Off-

BTY: Primorac, Joyner H, Korbel, Grubba
Donic: Waldner (purple handle) Waldner Dicon (its pink)






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Replies:
Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 9:11am
hahahhaha, ok sersiouly, i know ive been a dud, but i have to say waldner impulse, that was my FIRST EVER BLADE when playing ping pong, coach gave it to me. its sooo flexible and all- blade, unbelievably good for a beginner starting out.

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Posted By: ProfessorChaos
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 9:13am
http://tabletennis.about.com/od/blades/tp/beginnerblades.htm


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Yasaka Max Carbon 3D FL
Desto F1 Max
Sriver FX Max


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 9:13am
btw, ppl need to agree on some of the blades suggested in order for it to be
placed on the list..


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Posted By: pongcrazy
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 10:10am
729 instinct series.
Appelgren allplay/ Waldner allplay
Gatien Extra
Gambler Arylate Carbon - yes it's about All+/Off-


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Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 10:42am
the bty primorac is a great beginners blade.


Posted By: hafawaz
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 10:45am
Originally posted by Skyline Skyline wrote:

the bty primorac is a great beginners blade.


Definitely.  I'd add the Andrejz Grubba All+ and the Timo Boll Spark (this is a great controllable blade with a soft feel).




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Keyshot Light with Sriver FX 2.1


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 11:53am
I agree, Btfy Andrzej Grubba is a very good controlling allround blade for beginners.

You can also get about the same allround qualities but some offensive ability as well with 729 V-6 ($27 from Eacheng). I recommend it very much to anybody from allround to offensive players. The only ones who would not get much from playing it would be heavy defenders and all-out close-to-the-table relentless attackers without short game.


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Posted By: bull_harrier
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 2:10pm
BTY: Primorac, Joyner H, Korbel, Grubba
Stiga: Clipper
Donic: Waldner (purple handle)


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Posted By: hafawaz
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

BTY: Primorac, Joyner H, Korbel, Grubba
Stiga: Clipper
Donic: Waldner (purple handle)


i'm surprised that you'd pick the Joyner H as a beginner's blade. 


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Keyshot Light with Sriver FX 2.1


Posted By: O! Ju Qian
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 2:44pm
yasaka allround 40

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Posted By: speed_king
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 2:58pm
Stiga allround classic
Stiga offensive classic
BTY primorac off-
Avalox P500
Yasaka Gatien extra
Stiga energy wood
Stiga offensive cr
 
Bolded blades is my favourite all wood blades


Posted By: gtlug
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:26pm
Stiga Allround (Clasic, Tube, Evolution)
Stitga Offensive Classic
Stiga Optimum Sync

Donic Waldner/Applegreen Allplay

Jolla Stefan Feth

Buttefly Korbel
Butterfly Primorac
Butterfly Grubba

Dawei Quattro Allround (Limba)

IMO, Any allround blade, or even premade bat blade with two good allround rubbers is ok for a beginner.


Posted By: bull_harrier
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:28pm
Why are you surprised that i'd pick the Joyner H as a beginners blade hafawaz? It's slow, soft and easy to control.  Good call on the Avalox P500 too speed_king, that's a quality blade. 

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Posted By: pongmaster
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:30pm
Butterfly primorac and andrezj grubba

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FH:H3

BH:Spectol


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:31pm
Originally posted by O! Ju Qian O! Ju Qian wrote:

yasaka allround 40
 
allround 40 is too hard for a beginner.


Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/26/2008 at 5:33pm
Originally posted by bull_harrier bull_harrier wrote:

Why are you surprised that i'd pick the Joyner H as a beginners blade hafawaz? It's slow, soft and easy to control.  Good call on the Avalox P500 too speed_king, that's a quality blade. 
 
Jonyer H is not slow at all. Hinoki is great for looping. For a beginner I suggest some normal blades first.


Posted By: Ranger-man
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 11:45am
The Butterfly Primorac, the Butterfly Timo Boll, not the spirit, thats too fast, and the Donic Persson Senso, should be good beginner blades. I have played with all three of the above.


Posted By: Ranger-man
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 11:47am
Basically, any blade that is rated All - would be a good choice.


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 11:54am
ok guys, i need ur supoprt on this, where r the dipper ppl! PUT UR HANDS UP~!

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Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 3:27pm
right person senso v2 is a pretty good beginners blade


Posted By: bull_harrier
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 3:50pm
I disagree that the Joyner H is fast, but that's what i think.  I found it easy to control and has a very good soft feel, which would be good for a beginner.  I tried it with Mark V 2.1/2.2 and Sriver 2.1 (BH).  

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BH: Boost TP


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Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 3:57pm
I think the clipper is a little to fast for a beginner's blade. 

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BH: D05


Posted By: speaquinox
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 5:05pm
Originally posted by Jeff[ATTC Jeff[ATTC wrote:

]I think the clipper is a little to fast for a beginner's blade. 


I totally agree..


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Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 03/28/2008 at 6:32pm
Here are a few blades that I think are beginner friendly:

Avalox: BT550
Butterfly: Grubba, Timo Boll, Primorac, Korbel
Donic: Waldner Dicon, Waldner Senso,  Waldner Allplay, Appelgren Allplay
Stiga: Allround Classic, Allround Evolution, Energy, Offensive Classic, Tube Allround
Yasaka: Allround 40, Gatien 2040, Extra, Extra 3D




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FH: D80
BH: D05


Posted By: siuchar
Date Posted: 04/16/2008 at 1:34pm
I am think about what blade to buy for my friend, a beginner. Maybe you guys can help me here.

I am trying to decide among:
Stiga Optimum
Stiga Optimum Plus
Stiga Offensive Classic
Yasaka Extra 3D

How is Stiga Optimum Plus different from Stiga Optimum? It seems Stiga Optimum Plus uses better wood than Stiga Optimum.



Posted By: Jeff(ATTC)
Date Posted: 04/18/2008 at 3:13am
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

I am think about what blade to buy for my friend, a beginner. Maybe you guys can help me here.

I am trying to decide among:
Stiga Optimum
Stiga Optimum Plus
Stiga Offensive Classic
Yasaka Extra 3D

How is Stiga Optimum Plus different from Stiga Optimum? It seems Stiga Optimum Plus uses better wood than Stiga Optimum.



Get him a Stiga OC.  $35 a pop and comes with good control and decent speed.  A good looping blade.


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FH: D80
BH: D05


Posted By: siuchar
Date Posted: 04/18/2008 at 11:45pm
Originally posted by Jeff[ATTC Jeff[ATTC wrote:

]
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

I am think about what blade to buy for my friend, a beginner. Maybe you guys can help me here.

I am trying to decide among:
Stiga Optimum
Stiga Optimum Plus
Stiga Offensive Classic
Yasaka Extra 3D

How is Stiga Optimum Plus different from Stiga Optimum? It seems Stiga Optimum Plus uses better wood than Stiga Optimum.



Get him a Stiga OC.  $35 a pop and comes with good control and decent speed.  A good looping blade.



Thanks. I think Stiga OC is a better deal. For blades in the Optimum series, some money goes into the appearance :)  $35 USD, where to buy? can you give a link so that I can take a look?


Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 04/19/2008 at 8:13am
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

Originally posted by Jeff[ATTC Jeff[ATTC wrote:

]
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

I am think about what blade to buy for my friend, a beginner. Maybe you guys can help me here.

I am trying to decide among:
Stiga Optimum
Stiga Optimum Plus
Stiga Offensive Classic
Yasaka Extra 3D

How is Stiga Optimum Plus different from Stiga Optimum? It seems Stiga Optimum Plus uses better wood than Stiga Optimum.



Get him a Stiga OC.  $35 a pop and comes with good control and decent speed.  A good looping blade.



Thanks. I think Stiga OC is a better deal. For blades in the Optimum series, some money goes into the appearance :)  $35 USD, where to buy? can you give a link so that I can take a look?


Try paddlepalace:

http://www.paddlepalace.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SSOFFN

You will have to add a rubber or some accessory to get free shipping (or just pay $5 shipping)


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Posted By: siuchar
Date Posted: 04/19/2008 at 5:40pm
Thanks, member_profile.asp?PF=16655&FID=24 - dimitris

I am looking for OC CR WRB; it costs 40+ dollars there.


Posted By: hpesoj07
Date Posted: 04/20/2008 at 6:08am
Palatok blade is the best... i beat other players here when i am a begginer...


Posted By: riVers <3
Date Posted: 04/20/2008 at 7:35am

My first blade was the Butterfly X-Star. It was a good beginners blade, had great control. It was a good blade to train with and find my style of play. Fairly inexpensive so not that bad of an investment for a first blade.



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Blade:Violin (ST)
FH:Sriver G2 2.1 (red)
BH:Sriver G2 2.1 (black)
Blade:Timo Boll Spirit (ST)
FH:Tenergy 05 2.1 (red)
BH:Tenergy 05 2.1 (black)


Posted By: tthustler123
Date Posted: 04/21/2008 at 10:11pm
i am a beginner and have little knowledge on the different kinds of blades, since i have only played with one quality one that i got of of ebay (of course haha). i'm looking for a blade with rubbers/sponge that is under $60, and is good for a beginner who likes to play aggresively with lots of topspin. any suggestions? thanks


Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 10:32am
Originally posted by tthustler123 tthustler123 wrote:

i am a beginner and have little knowledge on the different kinds of blades, since i have only played with one quality one that i got of of ebay (of course haha). i'm looking for a blade with rubbers/sponge that is under $60, and is good for a beginner who likes to play aggresively with lots of topspin. any suggestions? thanks


What quality paddle have you used before and why you do not like it or think you need something better?

For under $60 you have many choices for new chinese equipment and several choices for almost new / lightly used eurojapanese equipment, found around this and other forums. For the former option, I would advise to have a look at colestt.com and zeropong.com. If you do not know what you are looking for, better contact Cole directly with email. Also reading many of the threads around this forum will give you a better idea (or totally confuse you)! :-) For the latter option of eurojap equipment, I think following the advise given in the beginner's blade and rubbers threads is relatively sound. Then it is a matter of waiting for some nice deal on the equipment you believe suits you.


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Posted By: tthustler123
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 5:40pm

the paddle brand is 999 and the blade is 999threenine with super 999t rubbers or something like that. its a good paddle and i like it but i was just interested in what else there was in a lower price range for a beginner.



Posted By: louis_wong27
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 6:14pm
bty vsg 3000


Posted By: dimitris
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 6:43pm
Originally posted by tthustler123 tthustler123 wrote:

the paddle brand is 999 and the blade is 999threenine with super 999t rubbers or something like that. its a good paddle and i like it but i was just interested in what else there was in a lower price range for a beginner.



Since you are already playing with Chinese equipment and you are probably used to that, colestt and zeropong have many combos you can try at your price range.


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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

I am think about what blade to buy for my friend, a beginner. Maybe you guys can help me here.

I am trying to decide among:
Stiga Optimum
Stiga Optimum Plus
Stiga Offensive Classic
Yasaka Extra 3D

How is Stiga Optimum Plus different from Stiga Optimum? It seems Stiga Optimum Plus uses better wood than Stiga Optimum.



Don't get him an Optimum (Plus). Those are rather stiff and less controlling blades - not good enough for a beginner (if he wants to enjoy the game, that is). Yasaka Extra 3d imho also is not a proper option. Get him an LKT Instinct (regular, not Plus!)


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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 6:58pm
Originally posted by siuchar siuchar wrote:

Thanks, member_profile.asp?PF=16655&FID=24 - dimitris

I am looking for OC CR WRB; it costs 40+ dollars there.


A Chinese blade which is pretty close to Stiga Offensive Classic (but without WRB) is DHS H-WL - but it is rather fast and stiff. Are you sure?


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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 7:06pm
Originally posted by tthustler123 tthustler123 wrote:

i am a beginner and have little knowledge on the different kinds of blades, since i have only played with one quality one that i got of of ebay (of course haha). i'm looking for a blade with rubbers/sponge that is under $60, and is good for a beginner who likes to play aggresively with lots of topspin. any suggestions? thanks


For $50 in the US you can get a complete combo from colestt.com - you can try Galaxy T-7, or Dawei Wavestone, or Galaxy W-6. If you are willing to pay $70 you can get yourself a superb blade in Galaxy K-4 or K-6 (Timo Boll Sprit or Maze clone). That includes two rubbers (let's say Inspirit Quattro plus Galaxy Venus) and a paddle case. For attackers like you Zeropong.com recommends CTTA Carbon Flex for $32 (but you will need to add two rubbers to that... which will add up to exactly $60) or entire combo for $45 (Gambler Carbon Arylate with two 4 Kings rubbers).


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Posted By: tthustler123
Date Posted: 04/22/2008 at 9:20pm
thanks ill look at those


Posted By: BreziklesVienna
Date Posted: 07/08/2008 at 7:13am

Donic Testra is also very good for beginners!



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Posted By: Piri
Date Posted: 07/08/2008 at 4:39pm
Donic Persson allround, my first blade and I still using itTongue until my maze arrives...

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Nittaku Acoustic St.
FH: BTY Tenergy 05 2.1
BH: BTY Tenergy 64 2.1




Posted By: Shogun
Date Posted: 08/12/2008 at 10:25am
Hi all,

has anybody heard of the brand Kokutaku cause I recently bought a blade from them ( blutenkirsche B3004) 2ply Hinoki and 3 ply wood.

What does the Hinoki do to a blade eg speed, control etc.

Please advise if I bought a dud so that I can sell and buy somthing else.


Posted By: delfam
Date Posted: 08/13/2008 at 10:39am
yeah, I've been playing for about 2 months and like to get a good blade. I've used only premade bats, and like to spend around $50 from coles. What would you guys suggest, I play somewhere between All+ and Off-


Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 08/13/2008 at 1:12pm
I don�t think Korbel should be a good beginners blade,  too fast for a beginner. 

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Rosewood V FL

Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH

Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH


Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing


Posted By: Master_of_loops
Date Posted: 08/13/2008 at 5:35pm
I first play with Primorac OFF-

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Posted By: Skanbuzz
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 2:43am
Hi all,
 
Just found this forum & registered, great!!
Got hook on TT after watching some olympics 2008 games & my 2 sons (13 & 11 yrs) too
We had been using a wooden penhold bat (rubber need renew & Old old) & an old shakehand bat (also rubber beed renew).
They both use penhold since I can only remeber penhold during my youth & taught them that but would like them to try shakehand since shakehand is more versitile
 
If I am thinking of getting them new bats for the:
Q1) what kind of price for a buget or begginer bat(all round) is reasonable? (in �)
Q2) What penhold bat(all round) would be suitable?
Q3) What shakehold bat(all round) would be suitable?
Q4) What else to purchase other than balls?
Q5) Where to purchase? online or store is best?
 
 
Q6) Is it best to buy bat(with rubber) included?
Obviously if buy separate I might not know how to choose rubber and how to install the rubber on the bat
 
My eldest son is perhaps a slower reaction and player but like spin. Movement is more mechanical
My 2nd son is much speedier in reaction and on his feet too. His movement is more natural and fluent
Both are not attacking style
 
Any good training video you can recommend too (whetehr on video sharing?) Any video that sort of show them the different types of spins, play style else rather than the basic?
 
Hope can help Thanks
 


Posted By: TT_Freak
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 8:25am
You'll notice that gold and silver are penholders. Since your sons already know to play, I'd have them stick with it. But from the sounds of it, your elder son doesn't have as much talent as his younger brother, so if anyone should switch it should be him. Penhold is an unforgiving grip, players without lightning fast footwork and good hands won't reach their potential playing it.

Contrary to what a lot of people here would advise, your boys should probably use a powerful setup to help them go toe to toe with the adults. As they grow, the short game with become more important and so their equipment will reflect this by changing to more mainstream rubbers. If they can handle it, choose something heavier so they won't have the painful switch of going to something dramatically different later on.


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Violin
F1
Actor

10g at 3 and 9
10g at 12
20g at the end of handle


Posted By: theman
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 8:30am
donic cayman is an extremely light allround blade

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Posted By: Skanbuzz
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 2:22pm
Hi TT_Freak,
 
Yes, I think my eldest is the one that probably beniefit from the switch too.
What can you recommend or suggest in getting a blade for him?
I am a little confuse as to what you mean by
"your boys should probably use a powerful setup to help them go toe to toe with the adults. As they grow, the short game with become more important and so their equipment will reflect this by changing to more mainstream rubbers. If they can handle it, choose something heavier so they won't have the painful switch of going to something dramatically different later on."
 
Could you enlighten me?

 


Posted By: Skanbuzz
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 2:38pm
Hi,
 
To answer the question of why I chose for my sons to use penhold,
I used penhold long long time ago when I played TT. In fact I think I was given a blade that is "Jpen" & cork materially, I think the rubber maybe butterfly, I can't remember
 
The present two penhold "jpen" blades I got are wood ones given to me by friends who visited Malaysia for holidays and bought the blades for us some years ago. I do not think it is a well known brand, just recreation use type.
 
When my children started playing, I made  two MDF boards and two holding legs as a mini table, when they were young, they can't raech full size table. This just to get them knocking the ball. I taught them to use penhold since that is  all I can remember but I also sort of teach them shakehand hold too but since I am not shakehand hold myself, I can't teach them what i do not knnow.
 
They can hit quite well with penhold so they have stuck with it.
But I think shakehand hold seems to have more versatility so as another fourmer said, I think my eldest could benefit from the change if he wanted to change
 
Maybe both can change to a Cpen and rib the benefit of both sides of the blade?
Any comment will be welcome
 
Thanks
 
I think priory nowis to get them blades so they can play and progress and I will sort out the rest later
 


Posted By: Beer Belly
Date Posted: 08/27/2008 at 8:23pm
I'd like to add Friendship (729) Bomb + 729FX rubbers. Cheapish combo that works really well.

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Posted By: Skanbuzz
Date Posted: 08/29/2008 at 2:54pm
Anyone used Stiga Rapid ***?
 
Good for beginners?
or improving


Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 08/31/2008 at 4:19pm
Is there any difference between the beginners blade for shakehand and penhold players?


Posted By: hinokio
Date Posted: 09/26/2008 at 11:53am
So what is considered a good beginner JPen blade?


Posted By: cole_ely
Date Posted: 09/26/2008 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by Beer Belly Beer Belly wrote:

I'd like to add Friendship (729) Bomb + 729FX rubbers. Cheapish combo that works really well.
 
I hope you mean the fxel supersoft rubbers.  The old school fx is hard and sticky as heck.  Horrible rubbers for beginners.  The fxel one is great.
 
They use the same mold for both, so it can be confusing.  The one that's good for beginners is this one: http://zeropong.com/xcart4/product.php?productid=88&cat=287&page=1 - http://zeropong.com/xcart4/product.php?productid=88&cat=287&page=1
 
But I like six shooter even better.  It's a little less tacky, and I think the sponge has a better feel across the spectrum.  Six shooter in 1.8 would be a perfect beginner setup.  And on top of that you're supporting an american brand.  Not made in america of course, but at least american owned.  Of course, that may not mean much to those of us who aren't in America I guess.


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Wavestone St with Illumina 1.9r, defender1.7b

Please let me know if I can be of assistance.


Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 10/26/2008 at 4:17pm
Would YEO be intermediate or beginner ?
 
Thanks


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Clipper Wood
FH: DHS Hurricane 3 PROVINCIAL 2.15mm 38 degrees
BH: Palio CK531A OX

CPen Looper with LP twiddling, blocking hitting and LP RPB


Posted By: specialjustin
Date Posted: 10/26/2008 at 6:01pm
Yasaka extra is NOT a beginners blade, i would say it was for some one who has got a grasp of control and stroke technique, and wishes to  up the speed (this is regardless of rubber choice). Also i could not recommend a Stiga all round classic as a starting blade as it has so much vibration that learning about "feel" becomes confusing. This maybe due to the fact it was for the 38mm ball?


Posted By: Nutriment6464
Date Posted: 07/26/2009 at 9:37am
Originally posted by Skanbuzz Skanbuzz wrote:

Anyone used Stiga Rapid ***?
 
Good for beginners?
or improving
 
I see that no one answered :S, well, basically I think it's a premade, and sometimes stiga premades cost quite a lot, so for that price you could get a decent beginner combo blade from colestt.com or zeropong.com. Also, premade paddles ratings are totally false, a 10 on spin on a premade usually doesn't worth a 4-5 on custom-made rackets. Hope it helped ;)


Posted By: dabookerman
Date Posted: 07/27/2009 at 4:49pm
I really liked the cheapest Mark V Paddle Palace combo.  You can get a Mark V blade and Mark V (or other rubbers) for $74.  That is tough to beat and it worked well for me.  


Posted By: tolsenbb
Date Posted: 12/04/2009 at 9:21pm
Why don't beginners want the spinniest racket available?  Shouldn't that help them hit it hard with more spin easier?  Since their skill probably doesn't allow them to hit it with that much spin...


Posted By: Egghead
Date Posted: 12/04/2009 at 10:20pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by tthustler123 tthustler123 wrote:

i am a beginner and have little knowledge on the different kinds of blades, since i have only played with one quality one that i got of of ebay (of course haha). i'm looking for a blade with rubbers/sponge that is under $60, and is good for a beginner who likes to play aggresively with lots of topspin. any suggestions? thanks


For $50 in the US you can get a complete combo from colestt.com - you can try Galaxy T-7, or Dawei Wavestone, or Galaxy W-6. If you are willing to pay $70 you can get yourself a superb blade in Galaxy K-4 or K-6 (Timo Boll Sprit or Maze clone). That includes two rubbers (let's say Inspirit Quattro plus Galaxy Venus) and a paddle case. For attackers like you Zeropong.com recommends CTTA Carbon Flex for $32 (but you will need to add two rubbers to that... which will add up to exactly $60) or entire combo for $45 (Gambler Carbon Arylate with two 4 Kings rubbers).

ya, price at cole is ok;  he does not rip you off. I paid $60 for a no-name chinese blade + 2 x 729 regular rubbers Cry. For beginner, I think FocusIII is better.


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Posted By: ddaw
Date Posted: 12/05/2009 at 2:35am

whats the difference between a beginning player and intermidate one? Is it rating or skill level?



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Posted By: LYN...
Date Posted: 12/05/2009 at 8:04am
When I started last year, I used a Prince hobby bat.  I did not even know about other carbon blades.  It does not even have an ITTF on it.
I really am was a beginner, knowing nothing at all about the table tennis world.
I have searched, played in different playing areas, meet new friends who are players for so many years, joined tournaments, etc.
Then I enjoyed trying different blades such as: Stiga Tube Def, Schlager carbon, Primo Vitesse, VSG, photino, gergely, sardius, amultart, jun mizutani, etc.
At present, I am contented with my Ishlion ULC plus T64 and T25.
Beginner's blade can be a hobby bat or a wood blade first then when he feels that he needs to shift to a faster blade, a carbon is next in line for him.
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Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 12/05/2009 at 8:30am
Originally posted by tolsenbb tolsenbb wrote:

Why don't beginners want the spinniest racket available?  Shouldn't that help them hit it hard with more spin easier?  Since their skill probably doesn't allow them to hit it with that much spin...

Because beginners don't understand ball spin very well.  If I gave you a powerless setup with thin Hurricane rubbers, you will probably have the spinniest setup and hit the hardest and still land balls.  But the problem is, you'll have a field day if I'm on the other side serving.  I'll give you so many different serves, you'll want to quit tt. LOL

Not only that, beginners can't loop underspin, even if its light.

I've almost always started out with Chinese rubbers and had it much harder than the euro/jap rubber users at my club.  But to me, I'll be better in the long run as I have a better understand of spin and such.  That was when I was a straight out beginner, now they pay the price as I toy with them in short game Evil%20Smile


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Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 12/05/2009 at 11:03am
Beggining is the most fun you will get, before this game becomes serious

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Posted By: JanOW
Date Posted: 12/10/2009 at 9:47am
I can't decide to which blade will be my first custom made bat:

- Butterfly Primorac
- Butterfly Grubba
- Stiga Allround Tube
- Appelgreen Allplay

I've read a lot about this on forums and other table tennis sites.
Is Maze Advanced ALL+ (7ply) is similar than the above blades?
I think I'll use both side Sriver L.
I like offensive playing with topspin and hitting.

Which one would be the best for me?
Thanks.


Posted By: ohhgourami
Date Posted: 12/10/2009 at 10:31am
Originally posted by JanOW JanOW wrote:

I can't decide to which blade will be my first custom made bat:

- Butterfly Primorac
- Butterfly Grubba
- Stiga Allround Tube
- Appelgreen Allplay

I've read a lot about this on forums and other table tennis sites.
Is Maze Advanced ALL+ (7ply) is similar than the above blades?
I think I'll use both side Sriver L.
I like offensive playing with topspin and hitting.

Which one would be the best for me?
Thanks.

I think you should create a new thread so that more people can help you on it.

I also dont think you can go wrong with any of them.


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Posted By: lovemagicworld
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 5:27am
is clipper for improving players?


Posted By: zzz
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 5:52am
Originally posted by lovemagicworld lovemagicworld wrote:

is clipper for improving players?

No, too stiff and too fast.


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Posted By: liang1983
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 5:56am
Butterfly Yuki Series II (2 sheets Flextra) = Ringgit Malaysia 79.90

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Posted By: RyKnocks
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 9:55am
I would go for a Galaxy M6 or W6 with Dawei IQUL rubber from colestt.com.  For $60 you can get a very awesome setup that'll play just as well as the higher priced BTY blades.


Posted By: lovemagicworld
Date Posted: 05/30/2011 at 11:34am
kasumi basic?



Posted By: shay2be
Date Posted: 08/04/2011 at 3:08pm
the juic kalinic is a great choice too!


Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 08/04/2011 at 3:52pm
I second the W6. Great blade to learn looping.

Was considering Kasumi Basic for a beginner, but maybe it's a little too fast. Would pair it with Flextra or Micro 1.7mm. Nittaku does not rate it as being fast, but Latika (which is a bigger Kasumi) is decidedly rated OFF.
Any comments?


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Posted By: flash
Date Posted: 08/06/2011 at 4:42am
Bty Petr Korbel it's a great choise...also Bty Oh Sang Eun it's very good...

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Posted By: frogger
Date Posted: 08/06/2011 at 9:04pm
Primorac is a bit fast for a beginner unless thinner medium speed rubber is used(1.5). A better choice is A. Grubba or Grubba Pro models, as they provide longer dwell time and better control. For a real bargain by all means contact Cole's, he can build the perfect setup for low bucks. Wink

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Posted By: i rock
Date Posted: 08/07/2011 at 9:22pm
how about a beginner or amateur buys timo boll spirit or schlager carbon etc....... and goes for coaching everyday for about a month or 2 will it b okay
and by the way is old gergerly good for beginners not the alpha one



Posted By: mikepong
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 2:42am
i own and use a gergely for a good 14 years its my second blade after using stiga AR for 3 months, for a total beginner it maybe too fast, my coach then convinced me to shift back to stiga AR so i used AR for another year before totally switching to gergely,  ive seen beginners using TBS and they learned to adapt and of course coaching helped but in my opinion better to start with an allround blade, SC is on a total different level, that blade is too fast even schlager does not use that blade and not  recommended for beginners (IMHO)


Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 3:00am
Originally posted by i rock i rock wrote:

how about a beginner or amateur buys timo boll spirit or schlager carbon etc....... and goes for coaching everyday for about a month or 2 will it b okay
and by the way is old gergerly good for beginners not the alpha one


I was talking to a guy that uses a carbon blade, he's been playing more than 20 years but only became a very high level player in the last few years. He told me he has been using a carbon blade for a long time but it had ruined his game and that the reason he's a better player now is that he went back to an all round blade and took serious coaching for a few years THEN went back to a carbon blade. This is coming from a guy that plays like 2400 US and would have been 2100 before going back to an all round and getting coaching


Posted By: garwor
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 5:54am
Originally posted by i rock i rock wrote:

how about a beginner or amateur buys timo boll spirit or schlager carbon etc....... and goes for coaching everyday for about a month or 2 will it b okay
and by the way is old gergerly good for beginners not the alpha one


it will be fantastic...for your coach :D
2 hours every day x 7 days x 9 weeks x 20$ = 2520$ . But you will have to continue to be coached (because still 50% of your shots will not be good enough) for at least two years, it's then 29200 $


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Posted By: i rock
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 12:50pm
wht about the  gergerly 21 and the old 1 is suitable for beginners
 


Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 6:49pm
No they're not. Any blade faster than OFF- is not suitable for beginners.
You may get used to play with them, but you will most likely not develop a good technique.

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Posted By: grotik
Date Posted: 10/31/2011 at 11:59am
Hi all
Can you guys help me, my Q is. How is this combo for a beginner?  Should i change something? Thank you. 
 
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