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Topic: butterfly hinoki blades..

Posted By: yorsh82
Subject: butterfly hinoki blades..
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 1:08pm

hi, anyone knows the difference between the hinoki blades of butterfly..i mean.......there's many hinoki blades that seems to be equal...they have :
kiso hinoki V
all hinoki 5
kiso hinoki VII
all hinoki 7
hinoki shake peedy
HS Cryzer
JH
and now the new 3 senkoh (85, 90 and max).....
does the new hinoki era beggins? lol

i want to ask to those that have played with hinoki blades....what is the main diference between a 5 or 7 plies blade vs a 1 ply blade?? (off course...of the same wood....HINOKI)
regards!

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searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(

Replies:

Posted By: Mithrra
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 4:54pm

BTY hinoki's tend to be of normal quality....

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Member of the Single Ply Hinoki Club
*Non-Stop Changing Equipments!!!*
HADO ST
ASUKA 1 ply hinoki
Accoustic FL
AVX J-Power

KKT Cho Tokusen-Tenergy05

Posted By: hafawaz
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 5:50pm

i have the senkoh 90 and senkoh 85. i used to play with the jonyer h.

I like the single ply hinoki... i think the quality is above average - a lot more feel. softer than my jonyer h but also much faster. i think the jonyer is more of an off- but these are definitely off to off+

the senkoh 85 weighs 82 grams, while the senkoh 90 weighs 92 grams. good stuff.

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Senkoh - 85 with Sriver EL 2.1
Keyshot Light with Sriver FX 2.1

Posted By: zrrbiteDK
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 8:10pm

I've got a Kiso hinoki V, it's 80g. Very light, good feel and no speed sacrificed, but beware of soft tensors on this one. Very bouncy.

Posted By: yorsh82
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 9:14pm

@hafawaz: what about a chinese rubber FH on the senkoh 85?
@zrrbiteDK: mmm...what about a chinese rubber FH and roxon500 BH on the KISO V?

regards!

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searching for a good blade/rubber....comming back after 4 years of no TT at all..... :(

Posted By: grubbafan
Date Posted: 07/02/2008 at 10:12pm

I've seen the new Senkoh 90 blade. Well, it is one-ply, but don't expect it to be the same as Darker blades (obviously!).

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Blade : Butterfly Andrzej Grubba FL
FH : Butterfly Sriver
BH : Butterfly Sriver

Posted By: BreziklesVienna
Date Posted: 07/03/2008 at 7:18am

The new Senkoh 90 is amazing!

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after workout is before workout!

Posted By: hafawaz
Date Posted: 07/03/2008 at 10:10am

@yorsh82 - I'm not sure what to choose, I wanted something similar to the sriver fx. any suggestions? I think the 729fxel or the 729 lightening may dull the blade a bit.

@grubbafan - As far as playing characteristics, they were quite close. I have a friend that has the Darker with Sriver EL rubers and I tried it before i purchased my senkoh (i'm just a butterfly fan). But from the perspective of aesthetics, the darker is far more attractive. but then it's also more than twice as expensive. The senkoh has an almost "unfinished" look to it. i find that appealing.

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Senkoh - 85 with Sriver EL 2.1
Keyshot Light with Sriver FX 2.1

Posted By: usagi
Date Posted: 07/03/2008 at 10:37am

I have got a BTY Hinoki Shake Speedy. I think it is only hinoki top ply, NOT hinoki through and through...

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Fukuhara Special-FL: Bryce Speed + Tango
To test: Yasaka Offensive Gatien 7-ply: Bryce(FH) + Moristo-SP 1.9(BH) *sealing atm*

Posted By: 2winged
Date Posted: 07/03/2008 at 1:29pm

I have 2 one-ply hinoki blades and a H.S. Cryzer which is a 5-ply hinoki. I played with the Cryzer briefly this week and noted that it does loop well but didn't have the "feel" that my 1-ply blades do. I would classify the 5-ply as having a medium-hard to hard feel while my 1-ply blades are softer. I have Juic and Tibhar 1 plies.

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Blade: BTY Adolescen, Gergely 21
Rubber: Inspirit Quattro, Innova