hurricane 3 on tenergy
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Topic: hurricane 3 on tenergy
Posted By: F.Z.
Subject: hurricane 3 on tenergy
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 2:38pm
i managed to put some old commercial hurricane 3 on an old tenergy05 1.9 sponge. i used nail polish remover to get the spong of the rubber sheet. and glued it together with andro free glue.      I made the pictures in the bathroom as you can see, because of the nail polish remover. I put it on a samsonov alpha and its as fast as a tenergy  05. It's very spinny despite of the fact that the hurricane is almost out of tacky. If it is brand new it would be perfect.------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 3:13pm
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buy a new h3 and try it. But maybe the next tenergy should be tacky and not grippy?
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Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 3:24pm
yes it should, it would be great ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
liXiao wrote:Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 3:33pm
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they would get a lot new customers, it would be even better when they sell the sponge...but they probably won't
------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 3:34pm
| I always wondered why the Chinese National team didn't do something like this. You didn't change the playing characteristics of the top sheet or sponge so it's perfectly legal, right? |
Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 3:45pm
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i think so, there comes some nail polish remover on the rubber sheet and sponge but i just washed it of with water.
------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: DeathAngel
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 4:49pm
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Ive always wanted to do this :P
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Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 4:55pm
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niiiiiiiiice (Y) ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: Hookshot
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 4:59pm
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You don't think nail polish did anything to the sponge? Like tuning it? Expanding it? How long did you give the sponge dry from the water? |
Posted By: Asaomi
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 5:11pm
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why did u cut the rubber before you fixed it? wouldnt it be better if you separated them, fixed the topsheet to the spring sponge, glue it to the blade then cut it. ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH: DHS Hurricane 3 BH: Stiga Calibra Sound |
Posted By: DeathAngel
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 6:14pm
He already said they were old pieces and wanted to try it out. ------------- Korbel ST H3 Neo 2.2 Desto F3 2.0 USA: 1522 CAN: 809 |
Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 6:23pm
no it did nothing. and i just throw some water over it and wiped it off with a towel. ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 6:24pm
correct ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 6:26pm
It would also get very expensive when i have to buy 2 rubbers, just to get them separated and glued again ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 8:16pm
Tenergy 05 is not spinny enough already? |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 04/05/2009 at 9:22pm
That's a great idea! They still don't make real tacky rubbers with a good glue effect sponge, unless it's tuned of course
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Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 2:43am
The problem is that the topsheet of the tenergy is wearing of to fast. This solution is great. Stil one problem...can't get tenergy sponge ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 4:49am
i think wang hao played with a sriver topsheet on a bryce sponge... ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 4:50am
you can call it hurricanergy! ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: Takadigi
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 10:09am
Or, Terricane
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Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 11:03am
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@ F.Z. Let me just say, you are da man! I have tried something like this many years ago. I had a Juic 999 (Attack type I think) so I didn't like the hard sponge. So separated the sponge from an old Mark V and glued the Juic 999 topsheet on the Mark V sponge. Note that this particular Juic 999 topsheet has the Globe 999 brand and I think Juic just adds their name on the topsheet. This was before Juic had their own 999 Elite series which I also like. This was from maybe ten years ago and I still have the rubber. Still tacky and still picks up a ball!
You should write a short review. For my Juic 999 top/Mark V sponge hybrid, it wasn't as good as I expected. The topsheet was too firm that it didn't really let the ball sink in to benefit from the Mark V sponge. However, the sponge was old so it might not have been springy enough. I can say for a fact though that my hybrid is still springier than a new Globe 999/Saviga or a Globe 999/Quattro even now ten years later. Go figure. And anyone who attempts to separate a Japanese topsheet from the sponge has my respect. I used acetone just like you did.
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Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 11:34am
no!
that is a tenergy topsheet on hurricane sponge... ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 3:08pm
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Hey next time boil the rubber in a saucepan then remove about an inch or two of the top sheet then stick it back in the water then another couple inches. This softens the glue enough that the top sheet peels of very easily and doesn't damage the topsheet or sponge (I can see you have ripped holes in your sponge, this wont happen if you boil them). I've been removing all the old sponges I have lately but I still don't know whats the best glue to use to stick them back togther with and where to get such glue in Australia. I'm going to try 729-5 on DHS#19 sponge to see if a softer sponge cures this rubbers problem. Maybe if everyone removes their old sponges and topsheets carefully we can swap some and come up with some good combinations
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Posted By: F.Z.
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 3:21pm
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@nicefrog the little damage was because i have had used the otherside too could you write down every step of your method like 1 2 3 ... ------------- BTY Timo Boll Spirit ST FH: tenergy 05 2.1(B) BH: tenergy 64 2.1 (R) |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 3:26pm
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http://www.tennis-de-table.com/forums/sujet-33321-1.html - http://www.tennis-de-table.com/forums/sujet-33321-1.html
here is a methode... it is in french but you can use a translator... ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 04/06/2009 at 6:22pm
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My French is... well, nonexistent. So just to clarify, do I boil the water, then leave it boiling and drop the rubber in while the heat on the stove is still on?
Or boil the water, turn off the burner, and throw the rubber in? I hope the rubber doesn't burn or melt or turn into gummy worms.
I will try this with an old Bryce 1.9mm. I'll either stick a Cream or Tackspeed 2000 topsheet.
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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 3:03am
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You boil rubber in the water, when its all 100c grab it out (don't do this if you are a teenager with thin skin :) maybe use tongs if your young and fragile. Then peel the top sheet off a small amount, it cools very fast so the glue hardens again before you have gone far, then throw it back in the water then repeat until they are seperated. 100c is no where near hot enough to damage rubber or sponge, all it does is soften the glue ------------- |
Posted By: Boss1703
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 4:37am
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here is a google translated version french to english with some pics too...
http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pingmania.fr%2F7_montage-mousse-topsheet&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8 - http://translate.google.fr/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pingmania.fr%2F7_montage-mousse-topsheet&sl=fr&tl=en&hl=fr&ie=UTF-8 ------------- https://www.facebook.com/pierrefiassemapageping updated 20.11.10 http://bosscollection.skyrock.com http://tennisdetablecomtests.skyrock.com |
Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 7:14am
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Thanx for the translation Bossman.
I used Donic Vario Rubber Remover.
It worked great on the Tenergy and on an old Skyline3.
But that topsheet wasn't tacky anymore so i used a fairly new Skyline3 blue no.21 sponge and that didn't go so well.
A lot of sponge came of with the topsheet.
I think the sponge was just to soft.
Btw. Is there a way to make my old skyline tacky again?? ------------- Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 7:16am
try some euci oil or spinmax aqua
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Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 7:21am
I don't know these products Skyline.
Can you tell me something about them and where can i get them??
------------- Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang |
Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 7:27am
| euci oil. that's eucalyptus olie. It helps to restore grip and it has a nice smell too. Joola Spinmax aqua you can get it at most table tennis shops. |
Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 7:40am
THANX Skyline
------------- Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang |
Posted By: BeaverMD
Date Posted: 04/07/2009 at 5:28pm
| @nicefrog and boss, thanks for the assistance. I will boil the Bryce 1.9 tonight and put one of my sticky topsheets on it after it completely dries. Should at least provide a little entertainment. |
Posted By: sebas-aguirre
Date Posted: 04/08/2009 at 11:57am
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I tried boiling a bryce and a sriver l. I couldn't separate the topsheet from the sponge in either of them. I guess butterfly just sticks them too tight. I could however separate a friendship rubber with that method with no problems. |
Posted By: sebas-aguirre
Date Posted: 04/08/2009 at 12:07pm
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I think that haifu II tuned is very similar to your experiment. it has a tacky topsheet, and the sponge is springy. just tuned, it is far superior than tenergy. after a while, similar or maybe a little less. |
Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 04/08/2009 at 3:02pm
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I found friendship rubbers just fall apart very easily in hot water too. DHS are stuck harder but still fairly easy. I haven't tried butterfly rubbers
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Posted By: viktorovich
Date Posted: 04/09/2009 at 7:20am
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Hello!
Steam over a teapot nouse
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Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/09/2009 at 8:23am
The difference is that the tenergy sponge doesn't become slower.
(It isn't tuned)
It even becomes a bit faster with time. ------------- Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang |
Posted By: BKTT
Date Posted: 04/09/2009 at 12:23pm
I found the same problem for Tenergy too - the top sheet wears out too quickly. also, if you remove the rubber from the blade often, it shrinks by a significant amount. now that is a problem if i insist in using water-based glue only. there is a new nittaku hurricane 2 and 3 coming up. hopefully they make some advancement in that sponge. ------------- CL+H3+64 |
Posted By: Takadigi
Date Posted: 04/09/2009 at 1:35pm
Why? If you use a good water based glue, you don't have to often peel the rubber off the blade. |
Posted By: scottymang
Date Posted: 04/10/2009 at 2:46am
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If you don't stretch it the first time, it won't shrink when you take it of the blade.
------------- Timo Boll ALC + 2x Rakza7 max = Scottymang |
Posted By: mark20
Date Posted: 04/10/2009 at 3:18am
| since before tenergy was introduced to the market. my friend and i have found its equivalent to assembled rubber. what i'm pointing out is its sponge. it is the magic red sponge. it has same characteristics. but the difference is it has to be glued. but when you have glued it, i has the same springy feeling. |
Posted By: liberty.sky
Date Posted: 05/21/2011 at 10:30am
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they did. wang hao used sriver topsheet with bryce sponge for awhile ------------- Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon Xiom Vega Pro / Tenergy 64 USATT 2052 |
Posted By: a31539215
Date Posted: 11/10/2013 at 9:38pm
| how does it work out |
Posted By: Trin_hoa_an
Date Posted: 11/11/2013 at 2:40pm
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Very old tenergy version! black series font printed in sponge! ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=68348&title=feedback-trin-hoa-an" rel="nofollow - My Feedback |