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Topic: What is Wang Hao's black rubber ?
Posted By: JordanGreenwood
Subject: What is Wang Hao's black rubber ?
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 9:58am
Hello sorry im not sure what the chinese pro's use nowadays its just that at the WTTC's i was watching his match against Yoshida and his black rubber had red sponge similar to Tenergys, but surely he's not using tenergy ?

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Posted By: Tottenham
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 11:04am
maybe he use MRS like mine.....

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Posted By: glassmaple
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 11:23am
He was using a Black Skyline 3 with blue sponge during the WTTC.


Posted By: pinoyponger
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 11:51am
Originally posted by Tottenham Tottenham wrote:

maybe he use MRS like mine.....


Sorry for the off topic,i just want to know how h3 plays on a 729 magc red sponge on forehand.thanks.

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 1:43pm
wow i dont know where everyones eyes went at all. The skyline 3 #21 is bogus, and there was definitely no red sponge either. The sponge was black. He is one of he chinese that still uses BW2 because it actually fit his game as opposed to most of the others.

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Posted By: Masl
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 2:14pm
no sorry, it was blue.
First i had the same impression, but there is a good picture on german ittf site, where you can see the blue sponge:




Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 2:46pm
No he was not using Blue sponge Skyline 3, he's currently on Haifu BW2 = Black Sponge.

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FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H

BH - Tenergy 64 2.1


Posted By: glassmaple
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 4:20pm
Err.. there's a lot of pictures showing that it is Skyline 3 with blue sponge. Pictures DURING the WTTC 2009.


Posted By: Masl
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 4:58pm
i think he used it. in that picture, the sponge is blue, and not black. He used it on kuwait open...
i don't know if it's skyline, but i guess your right.


Posted By: Totoro
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 5:05pm
I'm pretty sure those are the new TUNED skyline and hurricanes. Others are still using BW2.

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Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 6:37pm

New Skyline and Hurricanes should be orange #20 sponge.  Are you sure that picture is from WTTC 2009 and not some random picture of Wang Hao?  Wang Hao did use the Skyline 3 Blue Sponge back in the Olympics but switched to BW2 after the tuned version came out.  If you watch videos of WTTC 2009, the sponge is black.



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FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H

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Posted By: Fixpoint
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 9:29pm
Wang Haos Blade in Yokohama 2009





The first picture is a part of the one below which I took at the tournament site.




Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 9:44pm
Wow I stand corrected!  Time to ask around to see if thats the NEO sponge!  Fix... can you get a good zoom on Ma Lins rubber... the actual symbols.  It looked like it was Skyline II FH based on a picture from an article instead of H3.


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Yasaka Ma Lin YEO (1st) , Yasaka Extra CPEN (2nd)

FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H

BH - Tenergy 64 2.1


Posted By: Fixpoint
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 11:36pm
Ma Lin's blade in Yokohama 2009





The first picture is a part of the one below which I took at the tournament site.





Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/06/2009 at 11:50pm
Photo by Marcos Yamada (Brazil)

Zhang Jike (Bryce Speed backhand)




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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 2:11am
Originally posted by Fixpoint Fixpoint wrote:

Originally posted by Rack Rack wrote:

Wow I stand corrected!  Time to ask around to see if thats the NEO sponge!  Fix... can you get a good zoom on Ma Lins rubber... the actual symbols.  It looked like it was Skyline II FH based on a picture from an article instead of H3.

Ma Lin's blade in Yokohama 2009




 
i have a pic where you can see that ma lin is playing woth h3


Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 6:07am
Wow you rule Fixpoint!  From all the videos you post to these pics... major props to you!  BBkon awesome!... would you mind posting it?

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Yasaka Ma Lin YEO (1st) , Yasaka Extra CPEN (2nd)

FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H

BH - Tenergy 64 2.1


Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 8:37am
What does Ma Lin use on backhand?


Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 9:39am
Bryce Speed

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Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 10:37am
Is it sure?How did you now?


Posted By: rustyfo
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 12:56pm
so when will those Skyline/Hurricane versions be released to the public?

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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by rustyfo rustyfo wrote:

so when will those Skyline/Hurricane versions be released to the public?
 
that rubbers wont help you to play like that


Posted By: danhs
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 1:48pm
        Am I the only one who thinks that the sponge on ma lin's forehand rubber looks to be about six millimeters  thick?!


Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 6:21pm
lol danhs i agree with you.. but i think thats the magical illusion of online photos.
 
i guess i stand corrected looking at that blue sponge.. but it makes zero sense. Why on earth is he using the blue sponge. All the glue effect hurricanes are #20.. no reason to have the glue thirsty #21. Unless Wang Hao is self boosting despite the options now available. Who knows anymore. I swear i saw the black sponge in the ma long match for sure though.. I'd like to see where those photos came from exactly.
 


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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 6:26pm
to be honest, there is no way of knowing what the pros use. They all probably have a custom sponge of some kind that the national quality of stuff doesn't even touch. Like the redshank rumor.. if its true then it had to start from someone seeing WLQ's blade with no rubber on it with a big fat 'redshank' written on it. We dont really know whether its H2, H3, TG3, TG2 without quality closeup photos.. and I have yet to see one quality closeup good enough to read a logo.

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Hurricane 3 bloooo spunj
Tenergy 80 1.9


Posted By: Rack
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 6:46pm
Totally agree Bee,  right now we're making educated guesses based on sponge color and logo shape structure of blurry pics.  Until we get an actually closeup picture like we did in the past (I remember someone posted super close up high quality pics), it'll stay that way... educated guesses.  I also agree that the rubber won't make you play like them like BBkon said... it takes them years and insane training to get as good as they are.  However, it is interesting to see what the new trends are.  I mean if the equipment they used was junk and made them lose... I don't believe they would be using it.  This is especially important now that glue has been banished to see what direction sponge technology is heading.  It's also fun as heck to try Thumbs%20Up.

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Yasaka Ma Lin YEO (1st) , Yasaka Extra CPEN (2nd)

FH - H3 NEO Pro 2.15 40H

BH - Tenergy 64 2.1


Posted By: pinoyponger
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 8:03pm
Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Photo by Marcos Yamada (Brazil)

Zhang Jike (Bryce Speed backhand)


 
what is zhang jike's blade?


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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 8:40pm
BTY Viscaria.

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Posted By: zwu168
Date Posted: 05/07/2009 at 8:46pm
Their rubbers are specially made for them. Their name is on the back of the sponge. Ma long plays with a 2.15mm 42 degree H3 weird.

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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 05/08/2009 at 4:07pm
More than one of the Chinese were using the blue sponge at the Word champs I noticed that in some pictures/videos. I think I saw in the mens doubles they were both using it. I have no idea why they all used it at the Olympics then forgot about it until now? unless now they have a tuned version?

http://www.daylife.com/photo/06AMa5OaLidTX
http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/sports/picture?channelId=5001&currentPic=92&picId=9949285
http://www.daylife.com/photo/024r4IZ9xJdFT


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Posted By: corsuse
Date Posted: 05/08/2009 at 5:02pm
Any pictures of their backhand rubbers?


Posted By: Fixpoint
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 1:30am
Originally posted by glassmaple glassmaple wrote:

He was using a Black Skyline 3 with blue sponge during the WTTC.



Yes, the rumors say that Wang Liqin, Ma Lin and Wang Hao were using Neo TG3 on their FH.
http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=299124&extra=page%3D1&page=4 - http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=299124&extra=page%3D1&page=4

The DHS new catalogue says that the Neo sponge is 30% faster and 5% more spinny than their older sponges.




Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 3:53am
Nice close up from fixpoint!
Its interesting to see the hardness of 39 to 41 as well...


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Posted By: charlesj
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 10:52am
I wonder if the speed/spin/control ratings still the same? with H2 the most spin and speed?


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Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 10:56am
Now that we know Wang Hao's  rubber I am wondering what is the brand of his hand??

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Posted By: nicefrog
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 2:22pm
Those Neos don't have a blue sponge. That's the only problem with this theory

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Posted By: jkillashark
Date Posted: 05/09/2009 at 6:23pm
Originally posted by Thylacine Thylacine wrote:

Now that we know Wang Hao's  rubber I am wondering what is the brand of his hand??


LOL

I'd rather know the brand of Ma Lin's wrist.


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