Some link on YAsaka Rakza :

http://www.sundns.org/discuz/redirect.php?tid=308847&goto=lastpost - http://www.sundns.org/discuz/redirect.php?tid=308847&goto=lastpost

 

 

Still, $40 for an Yasaka rubber is too much for a proud member of the Cheapo social vista club. I'd better stay with New Era or ZAP Biotech...

This forum's equipment focus is on *NEW* technology, so it's no wonder why Mark V may not get the sort of "play" here that it gets in clubs nationwide. 

 

In my state, there are two retired players (1900 / 2000) who played with Mark V for years.

 

What's funny is that they grab their old blades, come out of retirement every few years, play a few league matches, win their divisions and then go back into retirement.  

 

Classic Yasaka rubbers are hardly a barrier to success.

 

 

It's one of the most rudimentary forms of speeding up the sponge, while keeping the topsheet controllable. Companies like Palio were doing this 6+ years ago with the original CJ8000 tension series.

 

The interesting stuff that would make the reverse tensioning better than the boatloads of bogus H3 Neos (meaning the ones that reverse dome) is the quality/consistency of Yasaka's sponge and the properties/type of adhesive they use to attach the topsheet.

 

 

At the moment I play with Tenergy 64 but I want to switch to the Rakza 7 because I�m searching for a Rubber with a little more dynamic. Is it right that the Rakza 7 is easier to handle ?

 

Sorry my english is not the best.

 

 

An important coach from europe said mark v is obsolete because lacks the lower gears and was created when the tt was different ,nobody uses mark v in the fh at top level before voc was banned . btw was the only rubber i could never use to play i ve played with desto,sriver,bryce and always been able to control hard spun loops like 2300 players

 

  I wonder if raksa PO will be good(short pips)

 

  well you should leave this forum because nobody here  is a top10 player, spare me your cheap irony

 

anyway wasnt my opinion, croatian coach said that and he was able to prepare 2 players to the olympics games (boros,primorac) therefore he must know something on the ,other hand mark v was designed in 1967 so the game was different and my point was that no  one is playing with mark v in the fh.

 

 

you stated that only the opinion of somebody that could be a top 10 player is valuable then who is a top 10 player among the members of mytt?

fast at the wrong times.

 

I enjoyed playing with this rubber on the FH, so much so that I'm considering it on the BH as well.  Power loops are good, so are blocks.  Because I haven't really spent the optimal time for adaptation (for me, this is about 8-12 good sessions to forget about older set up), I hope to improve on the areas of steady/recovery loops and pushes especially on service return.  The rubber requires more forward motion on loops rather than a lifting motion, otherwise, the ball will go out. 

Although the rubber has some tack, enough for the included protective film to stick to it, it requires a different technique than serving with a Chinese tacky rubber.  I will also try it on a Korbel to see if I will have better consistency on control loops with a slower blade.  But definitely, if you like power looping, this rubber should be considered. 

 

I was curious, someone included this link of Rakza 7 and Palio Blitz.

http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=317684&extra=page%3D1 - http://www.sundns.org/discuz/viewthread.php?tid=317684&extra=page%3D1

They do look similar but if anyone has played with both, please comment if they actually play the same.  Thanks.

i played vega pro and blitz too.. and many other rubbers. i feel rakzalittle different... with a more lasting grip, but also with some funny irritating non linearity in throw angle.

i don't know if it was my blade though... i tried it on Yinhe V-1 only for few hours and then took it off.

 

Anyway, the Korbel is a bit slower than the 5-ply Hinoki but it's not a slow blade of course.  It does have more dampening effect on incoming shots.  The "hollowness" combined with the Rakza 7 Soft really provides a nice clicking sound when hitting/looping hard.  Off the bounce looping and blocking are easy to control.  The Korbel takes off some of the blistering power I had on the other blade though.  It might be better to use regular Rakza 7 for fh on the Korbel and use Rakza 7 Soft on the bh.  The soft version still has plenty of power on the fh but it would be more suitable for a spin-oriented game.

Rakza7, on top of that, also has the hardest topsheet of the three, so it really rewards people who hit hard with a crisper feel than the other two.

Blitz has a softer topsheet than Rakza7, but slightly harder sponge so the feel is a little different.  Throw angle of Blitz is lower than Rakza7.

Acuda S1 also has a lower throw angle than Rakza7 and, to me, it had less crisp of a feel.  I thought Rakza7 was quite a bit spinnier on big shots and much less prone to bottoming out (both Blitz and S1 tend to bottom out more than I like, so I liked them more on the BH than FH).

I ordered Adidas P5 since I heard it has a hard and grippy topsheet similar to Rakza7, but is faster on big shots.  We'll see how it goes.

ILya

 

What a coincidence that you wrote about the weight.  After using the Korbel with Rakza 7 Soft, I thought the regular version might give a little more power so I ordered two sheets of regular Rakza 7 and glued it to the Korbel.  Man, it feels HEAVY! Actually, it's not heavy from a pure weight standpoint, more like head heavy and unbalanced.  But I haven't played with it yet so I'll see how it goes for my first session with the regular version.  If I don't like how it feels during play, my loss will be someone's gain in the For Sale section.

I had the same feeling.  Sometimes, my hits just didn't land the way that I expected with other rubbers.  It is not consistent enough even though it has good grip.  And the throw angle is a bit low for me.  It was good at mid table counter looping though.

Debrag, maybe because you and I used the same F-1 blade 

I played Acuda S1 on OSP Expert. I´m thinking about purchase Rakza or P5. Maybe your review will help me to decide.

 

First, regular Rakza 7.  Both sides on Korbel both max thickness.  It's definitely too heavy and unbalanced on both sides, at least for me.  So using it only on one side is something to think about.  No clicking sound like the Soft version but the performance is excellent.  Good penetrating power and beautiful power loops.  There have been lots of discussions about what blades are good for this rubber.  IMO, an all-wood rated off- to off would work best.

 

Rakza 7 Soft - on the FH side of my 5 ply Hinoki (BTY Power Drive).  Nice click! Excellent power also.  It's almost like a speed-glued Tackifire Special Soft or Juic 999 Elite Ultima Soft Version.  I would love to compare it to Juic 999 Elite Nano someday if I ever buy one.  I feel like Ma Wenge straight-arm looping everything when I use this thing except my footwork isn't as good  There are two things I have problems with though.  First, opening loops against push.  If I loopkill pushes, great.  If I want to open up with slow/medium speed high arc heavy topspin, I tend to overhit a lot.  Second and somewhat a related problem, high arc heavy topspin loops during a rally.  Sometimes, I like to hit two or three loops hard and then I reach down and do a high arc loop as a change of pace.  Again, I tend to overhit.  I think it's because I haven't adjusted completely and also the sponge, despite the term Soft, still has a lot of tension.  So if you're not careful with Rakza 7 Soft, you can overhit medium speed, high topspin loops. 

Rakza 7 1.8mm

Rakza 7 Soft 1.8mm

Rakza 7 Soft max

I played with Rakza 7 1.8mm last night.  I played with it just after using my hardbat so I had to get used to closing the paddle again.   I am not impressed.  It is good but nothing special like T05.  I played with Rakza 7 soft 1.8mm and it is hard to tell the difference between the two.  Rakza 7 Soft Max comes the closest to T05.

Some times people come over to play and they like to try my paddles.  Sometimes I will set on up just for them.  Last week another player compared all my Rakza 7's with T05 and thought there was no comparison if you are simply looking for spin.  The Rakza 7 Soft max came the closest to the T05. He ended up liking my Samsonov Alpha too so he bought the Samonov Alpha and T05.  I recommend that that he get the Samsonov Alpha combo at the Paddle pallace as it was only $98.   Instead he thought T05 was so much better that he bought the Samsonov Alpha and T05 anyway and that cost a lot more.

At this time I am not convinced that Rakza 7 isn't a bunch of hype.  I don't think it is that much different from Mark V.  The good thing is that two of the sheets I bought didn't cost anymore than Mark V so that is OK.  I did buy a 3rd sheet for $38.

It takes me more time to get to know the rubbers.  I do have two Samsonov Alphas to compare at the same time on the same kind of paddle, all the rubbers are black so this should be a good comparison.  I also have my Newgy, cutting board and laser alignment system.

 

I just put Mark V max on my other Samsonov Alpha so I can compare with Rakza 7 Soft max.   I agree there is a difference.  The difference is probably worth the difference in price, but it still doesn't have that skip off the table spin like T05 has.

I am waiting for some Rakza soft in Max to be delivered and test.  I think it will feel much better than the 2.0 which bottomed out too easy on my T-11 and V1 Galaxy blades.

Hmm, I have Rakza 7 soft 1.8 mm.  I didn't notice any bottoming out but I didn't play with it against real opponents.   I was shipped the Rakza 7 Soft 1.8mm by mistake so it hasn't got the same play time as the others.

Maybe the sponges are just too thin to notice a big difference when you go less than 2.0.

You are probably right.  I think it requires a more controlled test.

It may also be you felt like there was not much difference because of the blade you use them on. This rubber may very well act and feel quite differently on different blades. The regular in 2.0 felt really good on my T-11, but a little too heavy on both sides of my V1.  I use same rubbers on both sides normally. I can't wait to use the soft in max on both sides of my V1.

None of the rubbers feel heavy but I usually use something light on my BH to offset any heavy FH rubbers.  I think that using different rubbers provides more options as long as one can do the foot work to make the options possible.

totally agree

I tested the rubbers on my FH only since that is where I would use them.  I tested the two rubbers using the Newgy at different speeds and distances.

In short, I have bought my last Rakza 7 max and that probably goes for the other Rakza 7s I have.   The H2 Neo commercial simply plays better and it cost about half as much.  This is a no brainer.  The H2 is noticeably faster but not much faster.   The H2 Neo also generates more spin but not much more.

The Hurricane fans are probably saying duh.  

 

I'm glad you found a rubber that suits your game.  It's pretty obvious that I disagree with your findings.  But that's ok.  We all are different players and we require different equipment.  I never tried Neo H2C but I've tried Neo H3C.  I felt more similarities with Neo H3C and regular Rakza.  But Rakza 7 Soft max is not at all like a Chinese rubber.  The glue effect in Rakza 7 Soft is much stronger than any Chinese glue effect rubber I've tried ex. Neo H3C, BW2 tuned 38 degrees.  I recommend Rakza 7 Soft for those players that used to speed glue Tackifire Sp Soft, 999 Elite Ultima, or other tacky Japan/Euro rubber. 

 

Could you clarify this? Do you mean don't use VOC glue or do you mean remove the old glue residue before re-attaching?