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Topic: The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
Posted By: Schlager
Subject: The pro's equipment -discussion and questions!
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 5:44am
Together with Alex I have decided to start a thread to gather all questions, and discussions, about the pro's equipment!

This means:

1. All off topic will be deleted, or moved out in separate topics.

2. All new topics posted with questions about the pro's equipment will be moved into this one!

I have put in a few pro's that I know, and I will keep this first post updated with a list of the pro's and their equipment.

I will do alphabetically after their last name.

If you are absolutely certain about a players equipment, please put it like this in your post, so I can just copy it into the list:

Ma Long
R:Timo Boll Spirit
F:H3 Neo
B:Tenergy 64


Boll, Timo
R:Timo Boll ALC
F:Tenergy 05
B:Tenergy 05


In other words:

The Players Name
Blade
FH rubber
BH rubber


New list 9/1/11 Courtesy of LiXiao and Forum Member Contributions
updated 2/3/2012:
(please note, for retired players, equipment listed is from the peak of their careers)

Machi Asuka (JPN)
R: Mizutani Jun (FL)

F: Tenergy 05

B: Tenergy 64

Timo Boll (GER)
R: Timo Boll ALC (ST)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Kazuhiro Chan (JPN)
R: Barwell (FL)
F: Renanos Hold
B: Hammond Pro Beta

Longcan Chen (CHN)
R: PF4 08 (CP)
F: 889

Qi Chen (CHN)
R: Michael Maze (FL)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: Tenergy 64

Weixing Chen (AUT)
R: Defense II (FL)
F: Shark III
B: Curl P-1R

Yuk Cheung (HKG)
R: Custom (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 64

Chih-Yuan Chuang (TPE)
R: Viscaria (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 64

Song Ding (CHN)
R: Hurricane 08 (ST)

F: Hurricane II

B: 802

Johnny Huang (CAN)
R: P700 (FL)
F: Spinpips
B: Spinpips

Seiko Iseki (Wei Qingguang) (JPN)
R: Texalium ALL+ (CP)
F:  999 CHN
B: Driva Smash Ultima

Jialiang Jiang (CHN)
R: Shunfeng 50 (CP)
B: PF4 652

Tianyi Jiang (HKG)
R: Custom Arylate Carbon (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 64

Ueda Jin (JPN)
R: Mizutani Jun (FL)

F: Tenergy 05

B: Tenergy 05

Se Hyuk Joo (KOR)
R: Custom (FL)
F: Tenergy 64
B: Grass D.Tecs OX

Yo Kan (JPN)
R: Rosewood V (CP)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: ?

Niwa Koki (JPN)
R: Liu Shiwen ZLC (FL)

F: Tenergy 25

B: Tenergy 05

Seiya Kishikawa (JPN)
R: Timo Boll ALC (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 64

Lai Chak Ko (HKG)
R: V-1 (CP)

F: Hurricane III NEO

B: Neos Sound Max

Linghui Kong (CHN)
R: P500 (AN)
F: Purot
B: Sogno

Petr Korbel (CZE)
R: Custom ZL Fiber/Inner Fiber (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Kalinikos Kreanga (GRE)
R: Custom Carbon (ST)
F: Tenergy 05 FX
B: Tenergy 05 FX

Jung Woo Lee (KOR)
R: Cypress MAX (JP)
F: Tenergy 64

Ching Li (HKG)
R: Ebenholz NCT V (CP)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: Tenergy

Guoliang Liu (CHN)
R: Clipper Wood (CP)
F: Spinpips
B: Mendo

Lin Ma (CHN)
R: Ma Lin Extra Offensive (CP)
F: Skyline II
B: Bryce Speed FX

Long Ma (CHN)
R: Custom Power G7 (FL)
F: Skyline III
B: Tenergy 05

Wenge Ma (CHN)
R: P500 (AN)
F: Magical Spin
B: Magical Spin

Yoshimura Masaharu (JPN)
R: Mizutani Jun

F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Kenji Matsudaira (JPN)
R: SK7 (ST)
F: Tenergy 64
B: Tenergy 05 FX

Kenta Matsudaira (JPN)
R: Timo Boll ALC (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Koji Matsush*ta (JPN)
R: Matsush*ta Pro Model (ST)
F:  Tackifire Drive
B:  Feint Long II

Michael Maze (DEN)
R: Custom Arylate Carbon (ST)
F: Bryce Speed
B: Bryce Speed

Jun Mizutani (JPN)
R: Mizutani Jun (ST)
F: Tenergy 64
B: Tenergy 64

Sang Eun Oh (KOR)
R: Custom (FL)

F: Tenergy 05

B: Tenergy 05

Tatuya Ono (JPN)
R: Quartet Allround (ST)

F: Tenergy 05
B:?

Dimitrij Ovtcharov (GER)
R: Ovtcharov Senso V1 (ST)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Zoran Primorac (CRO)
R: Custom Arylate (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05 

Seung Min Ryu (KOR)
R: Ryu Seung Min G-MAX (JP)
F: Tenergy 05

Werner Schlager (AUT)
R: Schlager (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05

Hiroshi Shibutani (JPN)
R: Shibutani (ST)
F: Tackifire Special Soft
B: Feint Long II

Bastian Steger (GER)
R: Custom (ST)

F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05 

Taku Takakiwa (JPN)
R: Custom ZL Carbon (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 05 

Peng Tang (HKG)
R: Ebenholz NCT VII (FL)
F: Blue Whale III
B: Dolphin

Toshio Tasaki (JPN)
R: Chinese Style L (CP)
F: Original T-Version
B: Feint Soft

Xin Xu (CHN)
R: Rosewood NCT V (CP)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: ?

Hao Wang (CHN)
R: Hurricane Hao (CP)
F: Skyline III
B: Sriver on Bryce Speed sponge

Liqin Wang (CHN)
R: Hurricane King (FL)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: Tenergy 64

Tao Wang (CHN)
R: P700 (ST)
F: 999
B: Spectol 

Yonggang Wang (CHN)
R: Albored Offensive (CP)
F: Spinpips

Jae Young Yoon (KOR)
R: Custom Arylate Carbon (FL)
F: Tenergy 05
B: Tenergy 64

Kaii Yoshida (JP)
R: Yoshida Kaii (CP)
F: Tenergy 64

Jian Zhan (SIN)
R:  Clipper CR WRB (FL)
F: Dolphin
B: ? 

Jike Zhang (CHN)
R: Viscaria (FL)
F: Hurricane III NEO
B: Tenergy 64

  Here you are, the new updated list. Correct any errors i have made. R- Racket, F-Forehand, B- Backhand, First name/last name, country, and handle shape.



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WOMEN:

Boros, Tamara (HRV)
Korbel SK7 (FL)
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Dodean, Daniela (ROU)
Primorac Carbon (FL)
Tenergy 64
Tenergy 64

Gao Jun (USA)
Matsush*ta Pro CS
Butterfly Challenger Attack

Kim Kyung Ah (KOR)
Nittaku Kim Kyung Ah
Nittaku Narucross EX
Nittaku Screw

Liu Shiwen (CHN)
Korbel (FL)
H3 Neo Blue Sponge
Tenergy 64

Pavlovich, Viktoria (BLR)
Defence Alpha
Tenergy 05 1,7 mm
Feint Long III

Stefanova, Nikoleta (ITA)
Korbel SK7 (FL)
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm

Tie Yana (HKG)
Special Made
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm

Toth, Krisztina (HUN)
Tenergy 64 2,1 mm
Tenergy 64 2,1 mm

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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0



Replies:
Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 7:20am
Cool! What about female players? Smile

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FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 7:55am
I have updated the first post, and will include both male and female players in the list.

Now I know that we have a thread for both male and female pro's equipment already, but the reason I'm doing this ks that both threads contain what the players used before the glue ban.

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2010 Archive
MEN:


Apolonia, Thiago (POR)
Petr Korbel Off
Tenergy 05
Tibhar Genius

Baum, Patrick (GER)
Arylate-carbon blade (probably TBS) with Baum Carrera Senso handle.
Tenergy (05?)
Tenergy (05?)

Boll, Timo (GER)
Timo Boll ALC
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Carneros, Alfredo (ESP)
Acoustic
Tenergy 05
Nianmor

Chen Qi (CHN)
Michael Maze Off
Hurricane III Neo Blue Sponge
Unknown Tenergy

Chih-Yuan, Chuang (TPE)
BTY Custom blade
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 64
 
Duran, Marc (ESP)
Korbel SK7
Tenergy 64
Tenergy 64

Gerell, Pär (SWE)
Stiga Rosewood
Calibra LT
Calibra LT

Hao Shuai (CHN)
Viscaria Light
H3 Neo Orange Sponge
Bryce Speed

Hoyama, Hugo (BRA)
Hasha Special (JPEN)
Pryde

Kishikawa, Seiya (JPN)
Custom Blade with Maze handle
Tenergy
Tenergy
 
Korbel, Petr (CZE)
Custom blade based on the Korbel Magic Hand with two glass fiber plies.
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Kreanga, Kalinikos (GRE)
Primorac Carbon with K.Kreanga off handle
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Legout, Christophe (FRA)
Timo Boll Spirit (with Legout handle)
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Ma Long (CHN)
Timo Boll Spirit
H3 Neo
Tenergy 64

Ma Lin (CHN)
Ma Lin Extra Offensive
Skyline II Blue sponge
Bryce Speed

Machado, Carlos (ESP)
Mazunov
Tenergy 64
Tenergy 64

Matsumoto, Cazuo (BRA)
Hasha Special (JPEN)
Tenergy 05

Mattenet, Adrien (FRA)
Butterfly Photino
Tenergy
Tenergy

Maze, Michael (DEN)
Timo Boll Spirit
Bryce Speed
Bryce Speed

Mizutani, Jun (JPN)
Jun Mizutani ZLC
Tenergy 64
Tenergy 64

Monteiro, Joao (POR)
Michael Maze Off
Tenergy 05
Tibhar Genius

Monteiro, Thiago (BRA)
Hinotec OFF
Pilot Advance
Pilot Advance

Oh San Eun (KOR)
Oh Sang Eun
Tenergy 64
Tenergy 64

Ovtcharov, Dimitrij (GER)
Waldner Senso Carbon
Tenergy of some sort
Donic rubber of some sort

Panatagonis, Gionis (GRE)
Petr Korbel Off
Tenergy 05
Feint Long II

Persson, Jörgen (SWE)
Old Persson Powerplay
?
?

Saive, Jean-Michel (BEL)
Clipper CR
Calibra LT
Calibra LT

Samsonov, Vladimir (BLR)
Stratus Carbon
Something with purple sponge
Something with purple sponge

Schlager, Werner (AUT)
Primorac Carbon with Schlager carbon handle (91 g)
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Smirnov, Alexei (RUS)
Photino?
Tenergy (64?)
Tenergy (64?)

Steger, Bastian (GER)
Korbel SK7
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Süss, Christian (GER)
Clipperlike blade with Andro handles
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Tsuboi, Gustavo (BRA)
SK7
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Wang Hao (CHN)
Hurricane Hao
Skyline III Blue Sponge
Sriver topsheet with somekind of white sponge

Wang Liqin (CHN)
Timo Boll Spirit
Hurricane II Neo Blue Sponge
Hammond Pro Beta

Waldner, Jan-Ove (SWE)
Waldner Senso Carbon
JO Gold
JO Platin

Zhang Jike (CHN)
Viscaria FL
H3 Neo Blue Sponge
Tenergy 64

Xu Xin (CHN)
Rosewood V
Hurricane III Neo Orange Sponge
Tenergy of some sort




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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 9:38am
Feng Tianwei (SIN)
http://www.stigatabletennis.com/pro_objects_details.php?id=16 - http://www.stigatabletennis.com/pro_objects_details.php?id=16

Equipment
Blade: STIGA Ebenholz NCT VII
Rubber: STIGA Boost TC


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FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 10:11am
Looks more like a Kevtech/Carbokev to me?



by courtesy of the ITTF

I don't really trust Stiga's (or any other companies) website.

Anyway:



Zhang Jike
Viscaria FL
H3 Neo Blue Sponge
Unknown


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 10:24am
What's the diff between normal H3 neo and H3 neo blue sponge? Ermm

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FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 11:55am
The colour of the sponge! (I'm so glad I got here first)

One of them is probably a bit harder than the other. Could be other differences to, but I'm not sure..


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 12:36pm

Oh, Sang Eun

blade: oh sang eun
Rubber: Tenergy 64; Tenergy 64

joao monteiro

michael maze, Tenergy 05  Tenergy 05



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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by IceObsession IceObsession wrote:

What's the diff between normal H3 neo and H3 neo blue sponge?Ermm


Some say that blue sponge is more elastic and react better with booster/tunning

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Rhyzer /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Rhyzer


Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:08pm
Brazilian National Team:
Thiago Monteiro: Cornilleau Hinotec OFF + Pilot Advance
Gustavo Tsuboi: BTY SK7 + Tenergy 05
Hugo Hoyama: Hasha Special + Pryde
Cazuo Matsumoto: Hasha Special + Tenergy 05

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Rhyzer /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Rhyzer


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 1:50pm
Updated the first post.

Does anyone know what Christophe Legout is using?

It's some sort of Tenergy, and the blade is supposedly TBS, but that just doesn't seem right..


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 2:01pm
Schalger, note that Hoyama and Matsumoto are J-penholders. They use only one rubber.

For Legout, he uses T05 with TBS (legout handle)

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Rhyzer /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Rhyzer


Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/07/2010 at 2:06pm
Boros, Tamara (HRV)
Korbel SK7 (FL)
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 05

Dodean, Daniela (ROU)
Primorac Carbon (FL)
Tenergy 05
Tenergy 64

Liu Shiwen (CHN)
Blade: Butterfly special blade (Arylate/Innerfibre)
H3 Neo Blue Sponge
Tenergy 64


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FH: DHS Neo Hurricane III
BH: TSP Spectol 21
Blade: TSP Limban Offensive(FL)


Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:37pm
Wang Liqin has carbon blade?
http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/2009112912412798356_G?full=1


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:41pm
Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..

It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?





Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.

Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 4:50pm
Vladimir Samsonov

Tibhar Stratus Carbon
Tibhar Genius + Nimbus VIP


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Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member
Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please...


Posted By: Thylacine
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:02pm
 Hugo Hoyama uses one rubber only. Same as  Cazuo Matsumoto who was using some chinese rubber a few months ago.

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Single Ply Hinoki club


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:08pm
Updated the first post with some posts that I must have missed..

IceObsession: Thanks for listing it up like that! So much faster to just copy them straight in!


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 5:41pm
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.




looks orange to me man.. :/

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Member of Wang Hao fan club.

Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro


Posted By: SLee
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:08pm
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)

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USATT Rating: 2054

YEO CPen
FH: H3 NEO
BH: Express Xplode


Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:44pm
Originally posted by SLee SLee wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)


The picture that I captured during Kuwait open shows that he is using an orange sponge.

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Member of Wang Hao fan club.

Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro


Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 05/10/2010 at 9:54pm
Wang Hao's BH?
I've read from somewhere that it is a thicker version of Sriver EL.
I know it is hard to believe.


Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 3:27am
:))) maybe only handle is new?


Posted By: gariklolkin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 3:29am
Originally posted by SLee SLee wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:


Moved it into this topic, gariklokin..It does look like a carbon mix, possibly arylate/carbon?Edit: Found a picture of Xu Xin's racket, and that backhand rubber is certainly not Tenergy.Also Chuang Chih-Yuan's racket which seems to be some sort of custom BTY blade with Tenergy 64 on the red side, and some type of Tenergy on the black side.


Looks to me like Xu Xin's picture is an old one. I know that he uses the Stiga Offensive NCT now not the YEO(which is in the picture)


maybe only handle is new?


Posted By: atin
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 4:45am
Who knows what Wang Jian Jun equipment is at the moment? Still Stiga OC?


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 11:23am
The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago..

So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 2:45pm
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.

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Member of Wang Hao fan club.

Hurricane Hao III
FH: Thors
RPB: Omega Pro


Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 2:48pm
samsonov is not using grip s anymore? i doubt he changed it to genius...
also chuang has his own blade not a custom one: http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7090AN.jpg


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http://www.mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47168&KW=feedback+rui&" rel="nofollow - my feedback


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:28pm




Doesn't look like the same blade to me..

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Originally posted by Sallom89 Sallom89 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

The picture with the white sponge was uploaded 4 days ago.. So I changed Xu Xin's backhand rubber to simply "Unknown"


"uploaded"?, but when was it captured? mine was captured during Kuwait open.


It was uploaded to http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/ 4, now 5, days ago.

The Kuwait open was over 2 months ago, so it's not unlikely that he has changed his bh since then..





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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: SLee
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:35pm
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Doesn't look like the same blade to me..


Yeah I don't think so either. The top image has a line on the bottom of the handle where the butterfly logo is but the bottom image doesn't

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USATT Rating: 2054

YEO CPen
FH: H3 NEO
BH: Express Xplode


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 8:49pm
Also the one he is using has a metal badge, does not have the blue lines across the handle and also has carbon layers of some kind.

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Blade: Butterfly M. Maze Off ST

Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 10:18pm
timo boll spark then? Ermm
http://www.butterflyonline.com/images/catalog/zoom/7048.jpg

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Posted By: AMonteiro
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 10:20pm
For me looks like a custom made that they put TB Spark handle without any lens..

TB Spark is only Arylate and this one looks like A/C.

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Rhyzer /Yasaka Goiabao 5 / Rhyzer


Posted By: TTdreamer1982
Date Posted: 05/11/2010 at 11:27pm
most of the top 20 player are using pure wood blade.
Including Ma long and Timo.
You would say "hey, but I see Ma's handle is Timo Boll Spirit!!"

Well....Like u just said....u saw the handle........

Same with Jun Mitzutani.

I played the blade which is made for him. Got the same handle as u see
that sells in TT store. But it is pure wood, light.... extremely controllable...

All pros' blade are not bouncy at all. Because for attack, U will need to learn
to put in strength on your own, not relying on blade. And All pros already
knew how to do that. But on defense and counter attacking shots, they
will have to have a extremely stable blade.

During intense and powerful rallies, it is impossible to count on bouncy
blades.


Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:32am
Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...

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Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW


Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:35am
What does Joo use for blade? I've heard rumours that he use Matsush*ta pro alpha or matsush*ta pro with the JSH's handle. Before he used the special made diode...However, it's certain that he uses T64 and Tibhar Grass Dtecs


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Blade: Joo Se Hyuk
Stiga Boost TC
Tibhar Grass Dtecs 1.6mm
Video: - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6u-p2VHaiDk
- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7bHoFRj_oU
-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYnqlW


Posted By: TTdreamer1982
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 2:41am
Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.


Posted By: anubhav1984
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 2:48am
Originally posted by TTdreamer1982 TTdreamer1982 wrote:

Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.
 
I am sure that i have seen the blue colored ALC layers on Timo Boll's blade in one of the videos. Though i am very sure that you are correct about what you have said above, i just don't believe that they are using an all wood blade.
You should substantiate your verdict with pics to make all of us believe.


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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 7:20am
Here's Ma Long's TBS: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20097161571118688_G

And here's Boll's ALC: http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G - http://www.fotop.net/rxng/cntt/20091915302077018_G

Both have layers of Arylate/Carbon.




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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 1:11pm
Originally posted by TTdreamer1982 TTdreamer1982 wrote:

Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:

Are you sure that Timo is using all wood with ALC handle ??? I dont know about the others but Schlager's stuff looks damn fast...


Give them a blade bought from stationary, glued with Tenergy.
Believe me, when they do a drive, u still touch nothing.


Speed is not everything. Suppose all the pros are able to hit so powerful drives but then the they still can use carbon or ALC blades because if its already fast then they have to show that they are able to handle the speed in slow shot or they will be just like us, power but no control is nothing. Besides, Ma Long if he uses ALC, its possibly for the dead feeling ( little vibration ) that he wants.


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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 05/12/2010 at 3:00pm
Looks like the most popular BH rubber is: "unknown"

Where can i get a sheet?

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Posted By: saif
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 12:13pm
Doesn't Zhang Jike use Bryce speed in his backhand? I've always known it but can't confirm the source now.

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Posted By: Kaoendry
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 3:45pm
I was watching some videos on dttl , anyone know why Timo is using red rubber on his FH?

He changed his rubbers? Kishikawa now uses red rubber on his FH too, in smash he change to black side to smash.


Posted By: timoboll89
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 3:57pm
because now there isn't disponibility of black tenergies of a certain weight...timo wrote on his site


Posted By: Leshxa
Date Posted: 05/14/2010 at 10:58pm
Would this be too much to ask to list thickness of the sponge if known?

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Posted By: dauntless
Date Posted: 05/15/2010 at 1:32am
Originally posted by timoboll89 timoboll89 wrote:

because now there isn't disponibility of black tenergies of a certain weight...timo wrote on his site


disponibility = availibilty

He is saying there aren't any blk t05 of a certain weight. I wonder what weight he is looking for... and gets!



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Posted By: IceObsession
Date Posted: 05/15/2010 at 9:07am
Pavlovich, Viktoria (BLR)
Defence Alpha
Tenergy 05 1,7 mm
Feint Long III

Stefanova, Nikoleta (ITA)
Korbel SK7 (FL)
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm

Tie Yana (HKG)
Special Made
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm
Tenergy 05 2,1 mm

Toth, Krisztina (HUN)
Tenergy 64 2,1 mm
Tenergy 64 2,1 mm

Gao Jun (USA)
Matsush*ta Pro CS
Butterfly Challenger Attack


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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/17/2010 at 3:17pm
Actually, Werner Schlager's blade is actually a Primorac Carbon blade with Schalger Carbon handles Wink
Before Butterfly made the Schlager Carbon, Werner was playing the Primorac Carbon. In order for the Schlager Carbon to be different from the Primorac Carbon, Butterfly produced the Schlager Carbon blade with a slightly thicker inner ply. This of course brought the weight up. Werner likes his blades to be exactly 91 grams and the Primorac Carbon is exactly 91 grams while the Schlager Carbon is 95 - 96 grams. So, in order for him to play with a blade with his name on, they actually put Schlager Carbon handles on a Primorac Carbon for him.. 
For someone at a sub world class level, I doubt that they would even notice the difference between the Primorac an Schlager Carbon blade.. They are basically identical except for the inner ply which is only slightly thicker on the Schlager Carbon.. He does NOT have a special made blade (other than the handle with his name).. It actually is a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with only the handle being difference.. His rubbers (Tenergy 05) are also off the shelf Tenergy 05 rubbers..


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Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 12:28pm
How about Jian Sun?

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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Actually, Werner Schlager's blade is actually a Primorac Carbon blade with Schalger Carbon handles Wink
Before Butterfly made the Schlager Carbon, Werner was playing the Primorac Carbon. In order for the Schlager Carbon to be different from the Primorac Carbon, Butterfly produced the Schlager Carbon blade with a slightly thicker inner ply. This of course brought the weight up. Werner likes his blades to be exactly 91 grams and the Primorac Carbon is exactly 91 grams while the Schlager Carbon is 95 - 96 grams. So, in order for him to play with a blade with his name on, they actually put Schlager Carbon handles on a Primorac Carbon for him.. 
For someone at a sub world class level, I doubt that they would even notice the difference between the Primorac an Schlager Carbon blade.. They are basically identical except for the inner ply which is only slightly thicker on the Schlager Carbon.. He does NOT have a special made blade (other than the handle with his name).. It actually is a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with only the handle being difference.. His rubbers (Tenergy 05) are also off the shelf Tenergy 05 rubbers..

Interesting,
Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager?


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Posted By: mjamja
Date Posted: 05/18/2010 at 2:40pm
He kidnapped Schlager and forced Werner to play TT in his garage.
 
See http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW =
 
 
Actually if you read through the thread you will find they were school friends at a young age and Schalger stopped to visit Pushblocker for a few days when he came to the US for a Killerspin event.
 
Mark


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 3:20pm
Butterfly claims that uses Primorac Carbon,  Tenergy 05 and Tenergy 64.
Do you know which Tenergy uses on f/h?

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 -Schlager


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Posted By: tokold
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 4:09pm
I've talked to her doubles partner, Elizabeta Samara and said she plays with Tenergy 64 both sides on a Primorac carbon.


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by mjamja mjamja wrote:

He kidnapped Schlager and forced Werner to play TT in his garage.
 
See http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=31114&KW =
 
 
Actually if you read through the thread you will find they were school friends at a young age and Schalger stopped to visit Pushblocker for a few days when he came to the US for a Killerspin event.
 
Mark


Yes I see.
So Werner Schlager plays Primorac Carbon with Schlager handle.



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Tenergy 05


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:35pm
I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!)

IceObsession: Again, thank you so much!

Updated the first post with more female players!


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Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:40pm
i thought he used t64 now....you could see it in those close up pictures...or at least some kind of tenergy.

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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 5:57pm
You are absolutely right..

The picture showing a white sponge and a BTY logo was old, and all pictures from the ITTF from 2010 shows an orange/red sponge.

Tenergy 64 is more likely than both 05 and 25, so I'll put down T64.


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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 6:56pm
Originally posted by tokold tokold wrote:

I've talked to her doubles partner, Elizabeta Samara and said she plays with Tenergy 64 both sides on a Primorac carbon.


Hi Dennis,
You are not talking too much, 4 posts in 6 years !




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Posted By: tokold
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:01pm
Well, been kind of busy and I just happened to be asking Elizabeta the same question about a month ago.


Posted By: shaolinTT
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:03pm
Does anyone know what set up (CPen) Wang Jian Jun has.
(His previous JPen set up was probably a clone of RSM's)


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 7:25pm
He uses a Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive with Tenergy of some sort on his fh (probably 05) and some orange or orange/red sponged rubber on his bh..

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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 8:51pm
Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:


Interesting,
Pushblocker, how do you know all these things about Schlager?
Werner and I have been best friends since High School.. I grew up in Austria and moved to the US 13 years ago.. Werner was visiting me in December before he went up to Chicago to play at the Spinvitational. When we played in my garage, I asked him if he played a off the shelf Schlager Carbon and he told me that it's a off the shelf Primorac Carbon with a Schlager handle and that the difference between both blades is that the center ply is thicker on the Schlager Carbon and that this brings the weight to 95 - 96 grams and that he likes his blades exactly 91 grams.

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Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2010 at 8:54pm
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

I have changed Zhang Jike's bh to Bryce Speed. I'm also pretty certain that's what he uses, but I can't remember where I saw it.

Pushblocker: That was a really interesting read! It's always fun with some inside info, and especially when it's about the player that really started my interest for TT about 7 years ago! (I have the DVD's from the 2003 WTTC and watch them whenever I get a bit tired of TT. Schlager was simply amazing through the whole tournament!)

IceObsession: Again, thank you so much!

Updated the first post with more female players!
I was actually surprised when he told me that it was actually basically a off the shelf blade (even though not really a Schlager Carbon).. I know that he would have the option that Butterfly makes a blade specifically for him. Some Pro's do NOT play off the shelf blades like Werner does. His blade (except for the grip) is no different than what anybody else plays if they get a Primorac Carbon from Butterfly.. Again, the difference to the Schlager Carbon is mostly the extra weight. Most Pro's are VERY specific when it comes to blade weight..

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Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 5:33am
Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 

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Tenergy 80
Tenergy 05


Posted By: Pushblocker
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 12:49pm

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 

I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..

 
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers..


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Dr. Neubauer Firewall Plus Blade with DHS G666 1.5mm on forehand Giant Dragon Talon National Team OX on backhand


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 2:05pm
I'm impressed by  member_profile.asp?PF=10328&FID=24 - Schlager 's dedication to this Topic. 
Very good administration. Clap



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Tenergy 80
Tenergy 05


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/20/2010 at 3:11pm
Good to hear, Stavros :)

It might take a day or two for me to update the list right now. Got both moving and exams going on right now, but I'll try my best to keep it up!

Does anyone know which blade Christian Sss is using btw? And if he has changed his Tenergy's?


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Rubbers: Bluefire M2 2.0


Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 4:52pm
Any spottings from Moscow?

I think I saw some Tenergy looking sponge on Tugwell's racket, and a Clipper of some sort on Smirnov's racket.


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Posted By: stepheN
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 6:43pm
afaik Sss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei Belge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...


Posted By: AllezCho
Date Posted: 05/26/2010 at 11:45pm
From Moscow, Petr Korbel seems to have switched back to his old Korbel OFF (5-ply) blade and uses some kind of Tenergy on both sides. I'm assuming its T05 since that was what he used before.

From the Moscow discussion thread, courtesy of member AMontiero:

Originally posted by AMonteiro AMonteiro wrote:

Looks like Korbel is back to his trusty 5ply blade instead of Korbel SK7




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Posted By: martu35
Date Posted: 05/27/2010 at 6:37am
do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?


Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 05/29/2010 at 5:42pm
What rubber does Dimitrij Ovtcharov use on the backhand guys?? any pics

Thanks


Posted By: Dafydd393
Date Posted: 05/29/2010 at 6:12pm
Pretty sure he was using Donic Coppa Speed although he may have moved onto one of their new rubbers, Acuda perhaps?

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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/30/2010 at 8:47am
Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Sss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei Belge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...
do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz?


Posted By: hut8
Date Posted: 05/30/2010 at 4:28pm
what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 1:22am
Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips


Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:06am
Originally posted by martu35 martu35 wrote:


do you know skachkov's rubber?blade?

I am not sure but I think he is using nittaku accoustic and some kind of tenergies

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Fh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
Bh: Donic JO Coppa Platin


Posted By: stepheN
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:51am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

do you know the set up of wu jiaduo,patrick franziska,floritz?


Patrick Franziska: Boll ALC with 2x Tenergy05
Philipp Floritz: blade is switching between various old Stigas: Hornet/Mellis/Ehrlich, Grip-S or Genius (he used to use Genius, but there are guys who say  he is playing Grip-S, cant tell for sure)

i dont know what wu jiaduo is playing, sorry.


Posted By: netskater
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 4:24am
Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.


Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 4:31am
Originally posted by netskater netskater wrote:

Feng Tianwei`s blade is Stiga Tube Carbo.


In the Ding Ning x Feng Tianwei video, there was a Tube Carbo and Ebenholz on the table. Don't know which belonged to Feng though. The Stiga website says Feng uses Ebenholz. Not sure though...


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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 6:22am
Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!

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Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 6:35am
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!


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Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 11:46am
Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Sss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.



Doesn't he use  an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing  with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?!


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Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:

afaik Sss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.

Ovtcharov's black (forehand) rubber is a tenergy aswell (didnt see exactly which one), his red bh rubber is a donic. when he is smashing the ball, he is changing to his red rubber!

smirnov with clipper + 2x Tenergy, got a picture from the ittf screen when his racket was laying on the table, you could see the tenergy sponge.

timo still with tenergy and alc but probably not that happy right now: after missing a shot vs. mizutani in the 5th set (the point from 8:7 to 8:8) he is shouting "Schei Belge" -> "f*cking rubbers"

if you watched the complete game, you could see him often looking to his (mostly fh-) rubber after missing a shot again...


"sh*tty rubbers!"? LOL



Posted By: le xex
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 12:30pm
was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?


Posted By: Hughes
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 1:04pm
Is there an online catalog for this equipment. I'll keep looking around here. Thanks.

Jordan.


Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by le xex le xex wrote:

was timo still using tenergy 05 on the black side? The sponge on the black seemed different than that on the red side, and he was using red for his FH...maybe he gave t05 fx a shot?


Look at 10:07 minute against Ma Long. Timo's black rubber is definitely not T05. The sponge is like Bryce Speed's or similar or something else.
What's the sponge color of T05 FX?


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Posted By: Ryu_S_M
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 2:57pm
Originally posted by Ciprian Ciprian wrote:


Originally posted by stepheN stepheN wrote:



afaik Sss plays with a Boll Spirit, rubbers are still Tenergy05.
Doesn't he use an Andro blade? From what I saw at this WTTC he wasn't playing with Boll Spirit. Maybe I'm wrong?!

no, I'm also saw some kind of andro handle in this wttc

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Fh: Donic JO Coppa Platin
Bh: Donic JO Coppa Platin


Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 05/31/2010 at 3:01pm
he still uses the supercore kinetic off+ blade recognizable by the handle



Posted By: thewook82
Date Posted: 06/01/2010 at 2:49pm
Originally posted by Pushblocker Pushblocker wrote:

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Congratulations to Butterfly for its quality control. Even Werner Schlager uses commercial Butterfly products, off the shelf. 

I've used Butterfly blades and long pips rubbers before and the long pips lasted for 10 years.. Long Pips of other brands often start losing pips after 20 - 30 hours of play.. Butterfly definetely makes quality products! I also have pretty good experience with TSP products. Japanese quality is definetely better than chinese quality.. However, you can buy a lot more chinese equipment for the same money than japanese equipment..

 
Too bad that Butterfly doesn't make a slow long pips blocking rubber.. Their long pips are more geared towards choppers and not blockers..
 
 
Have you tried Donic Akkadi? Don't know much about it other than that Fabian Akerstrom (World's top frictionless long pimple players) is using that rubber. Not as good as the old Hallmark Original rubber (of course!) he used to use but he did say that he'd been using the same rubber for over a year... I remember the old ones randomly losing pips pretty quickly.
 
I did some filming with him at the Worlds Champs that just finished and I'll be making some videos in the not too distant future.
 


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:23am
Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh


Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:25am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...


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Posted By: chain_05
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 1:50am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips


on match final wttc 2010 :  Blade look like Donic sawtech




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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 3:49am
Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?


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Posted By: Schlager
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 6:17am
Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?


Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)

Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:



Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.

She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!





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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 6:52am
Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Originally posted by Stavros Stavros wrote:

Originally posted by DreiZ DreiZ wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Re1Mu2R3 Re1Mu2R3 wrote:

Originally posted by Schlager Schlager wrote:

Feng Tianwei was using the Tube Carbo!


Thanks!
feng plays with stiga kevlar!!! and the rubbers of boll are not the same prolly bryce in bh
if ur talking about timo boll then im pretty sure he uses t05 on both sides, maybe t05fx on bh...

One sponge is red (Tenergy) and the other is not red. How can you say that are both Tenergys?


Those sponges looks like the same color to me.. (btw, boll's racket is the one to the right, not to be confused with the TBS to the left)

Feng Tianwei at the 2010 WTTTC:



Edit: Picture by courtesy of the ITTF.

She has used the Stiga Kevlar for some time, but this looks more like a tube carbo to me! There is a better view of it in the match against Ding Ning, as mentioned earlier!





OK, you're right, I was looking to TBS instead of ALC. Sorry!


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Posted By: chain_05
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 7:47am
Originally posted by chain_05 chain_05 wrote:

Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by hut8 hut8 wrote:

what equipment  WANG Yuegu uses.
tsp ludeack + tyrano pips


on match final wttc 2010 :  Blade look like Donic sawtech









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Posted By: TBS9x
Date Posted: 06/02/2010 at 3:41pm
1) I saw Feng Tianwei using some Stiga blade with the '' Tube '' written on the handle during the match.
2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade? Lighter = thinner = slower and more vibration and vice versa? And for example, does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr? I'm really curious in these things because weight has never been one of my real concern ( unless I can feel it's too heavy XD )


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Posted By: DreiZ
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 1:44pm
looks like Liu Shiwen is using korbel fl... anyone knows wat rubber she uses?
 


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Posted By: Re1Mu2R3
Date Posted: 06/05/2010 at 2:01pm
Originally posted by TBS9x TBS9x wrote:



...2) Why do the players have to be so specific about the weight of the blade?...does a 92gr blade feel different from a 91gr?



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