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Topic: Galaxy Mercury II
Posted By: lecridupongiste
Subject: Galaxy Mercury II
Date Posted: 09/04/2010 at 5:24am
As usual, descriptions for rubbers are "about as useful as a pair of breasts on the back of a pig."
Has anyone tried it ? I somewhat did like the first Mercury, but I was put off because of its heavyweight. Is this one any lighter ? Thanks. |
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/05/2010 at 1:21am
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Yes, it is considerably lighter - unlike Venus 2 which is heavier than Venus 1. So far M2 goes very well both with all-wood and carbon blades. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 09/05/2010 at 2:41am
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It's definitely lighter and topsheet is softer/thinner than the Mercury.
I also think the Mercury is a bit tackier..
I am going to play with it Monday.
Imago, I also have Venus II still in wrap, do you think it's harder than Venus 1?
Somehow this M2 reminds me of my old Venus 1...
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/05/2010 at 2:59am
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I was going to say the same, then realised that the M2 feeling is more of a hard Euro rubber, while V1 looks like Japanese rubber produced in China. Interesting as it is, one of the M2 pairs was 34 degrees, the other - 37. M2 has better spin than V1. |
Posted By: manyaku88
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 1:18am
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More comments please Imago. What does it do good what bad? A comparison between 34 and 37 maybe? And if you say it's like a hard euro, can you compare it to a Inspirit ? Or H3 NEO commercial ------------- Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL FH Bty Tenergy 05 2.1 BH: Palio Aeolus 45* 2.2 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 1:38am
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M2 has a good catapult effect - you can easily loop from mid and long distance, it is linear - controlled with the light strokes and powerful with the strong ones, a medium throw rubber, feels very tight - without the characteristic plyok sound some Chinese rubbers produce... Actually, I didn't play enough - they litterally ripped the rubbers off my blade. Topsheet feels harder, sponge is softer. 37 is better on ALL+ blades, 34 - on TBS and up. Both are softer than H3 Neo. |
Posted By: manyaku88
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 1:51am
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Sounds good. Speed compared to H3 Neo ?
------------- Blade: Bty BalsaCarbo X5 FL FH Bty Tenergy 05 2.1 BH: Palio Aeolus 45* 2.2 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 2:01am
| Depends on the gear. Down the scale is slower, up the scale is almost the same. Don't expect a $6 rubber to have everything. |
Posted By: lecridupongiste
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 3:46am
Thanks ! That's very interesting ! Sounds like the goold old Mercury lost some weight  .I'll give it a try very soon. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 09/06/2010 at 11:30pm
| I like it! Decent spin, good speed, a bit high throw on my 729-v6 blade (I will try it on my P700 next week, since V6 is pretty high throw). For $6, this rubber is hard to beat value wise. |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 11:12am
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Anyone know which topsheet + sponge hardness combination is comparable to Sriver EL or FX? It is cheap and worth a try.... ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:23pm
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:29pm
How did it play on your V-6? what blade do u recommend?
thnx! -------------  Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:38pm
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John, I like it best on my P700 and BT777.
If you think mercury 1 is a decent rubber, you should try this one. LMK!
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:47pm
Do you feel any difference between the red and black topsheets? what sponge number should I get for Donic-like feel? I like soft sponge.
thanks. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:54pm
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John,
I got my black 34 degree, it has some splotchines on the topsheet that are not as grippy as the rest. The reds are perfect.
Then I ordered 1 more black and 1 more red, they are both perfect. (2 more coming
 )I don't think you can get anything as soft as donic, unless if you meant Acuda S1 or S2..But nothing like Jo Coppa Silver, the topsheet is not as thin/supple.
But overall with 33/34 degree, this rubber plays like faster Sriver EL with tons more spin.
One thing I noticed is that on my last 2 sheet, sometimes I am in the hurry, I spray the cleaner, wipe it clean and put the plastic protection sheet, then I noticed that it starts to lose grip, then I applied olive oil to bring it back. Now I just don't apply that plastic sheet anymore. Maybe it was still moist when I did..
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 12:58pm
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I'll order a few sheets and try them out on my Photino.
thanx much. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 1:00pm
Please post your findings, sir. 
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 1:35pm
| Still using it (red 37) on pair with H3 Neo Pro 39. Very nice and powerful combination, compatible at that. If one wants to develop one's TT skill and techniques, Mercury 2 is the universal answer. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 1:37pm
Definitely, I'll also have my students try them. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: bull_harrier
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 1:48pm
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Is this sticky like a chinese rubber or more grippy like the new tensor rubbers?
------------- Clipper CR WRB FH: Boost TP BH: Boost TP http://www.youtube.com/user/bullharrier - My Biology/Physiology Learning Channel on Youtube |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 1:58pm
| I'd say in between. It's mildly tacky and became really, really grippy. At least on my 2 rubbers. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 2:09pm
If its grippy like the Palio CJ8000 topsheet, it'll be great! ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 2:30pm
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For the sake of the comparative analysis, I am going to consort a black M2 38 with T05 2.1 on a HK. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 2:33pm
Now that is one bold comparison!!! $4 rubber vs $74 rubber!  Go underdog!!
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 2:38pm
you can buy 18 pieces of Merc II against 1 of the Tenergy...wow!! ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 6:05pm
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Great... Where is the best place to buy? I am seeing some sites selling but not giving sponge hardness options? Only the thickness.
------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 7:32pm
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http://ttnpp.com/shop/rubber-galaxy-yinhe-c-4_87.html - http://ttnpp.com/shop/rubber-galaxy-yinhe-c-4_87.html |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/15/2011 at 11:13pm
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Thanks for the site. Sponge hardness is available but no thickness. Have sent a ticket to them. Anyone know what thickness they have? Price is fantastic @ $4 per piece. ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 3:13am
Indeed. Underdog, save us from the tyrany of T-reX!
 I am trying to be fair and to give some chances to Tenergy, so will replace M2 38 with M2 36.
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 7:32pm
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Red T05 max @ 10 hours play vs. red M2 max 37 d @ 6 months play Characteristic T05 M2 Physical appearance 7/10 9/10 Weight heavy medium Tackiness 3/10 2/10 Grip/biting 9/10 9/10 Durability 5/10 9/10
Sponge after 5 regluings 8/10 10/10 Bounce 7/10 9/10 Speed 8/10 9/10
Power 8/10 9/10 Control 8/10 7/10 Looping 8/10 9/10 Topspin brush 9/10 7/10 Topspin drive 9/10 8/10 Blocking topspin 10/10 8/10 Smashing 8/10 10/10 Pushing 9/10 9/10 Flicks 10/10 8/10 Service 9/10 8/10 Punch 8/10 9/10 Chop 8/10 7/10 Backhand kills 10/10 8/10 Placement 10/10 9/10 Consistency 9/10 9/10 Throw 6/10 8/10 Gears 8/10 9/10 Blade independance 7/10 10/10
Price 64 4 |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 7:35pm
@imago: 10/10 
------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 7:57pm
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Thanks for your very in depth review. I found some points a little shocking as I currently use T05 and have M2 on order. Tackiness on M2 is lower yet throw is higher? I find that hard to believe. I would say T05 is 0/10 on tackiness. Also you reglued your T05 5 times with VOC glue? When you say M2 has more gears, is it at the low end or top end? |
Posted By: Klaus123
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 9:15pm
| Imago: what is about speed? The most important criteria is missing in your matrix! As well as dynamics, speed glue effect, power …? |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 9:29pm
I don't know if speed is THE most important criteria, also "bounce" might give a hint at that, also I don't think tension sponge rubbers have speed glue effects...totally different animal.
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Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 11:08pm
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The comparison between M2 and T05 doesn't make sense. There is only the COR as a function of relative impact speed in the normal and tangential direction. All this other stuff is non sense.
M2 does look good though and the price/performance looks good. ------------- I TT therefore I am |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/16/2011 at 11:18pm
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Throw of M2 is higher then T05???. I better stick M2 on a low throw blade then. Also how does the M2 sponge react to VOC glue? ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:17am
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I think what Imago meant here is since T05 has a very high throw and M2 has lower throw, he prefers it that way.
Bounce effect: To me, the bounce is about the same, but I disagree with Imago on gears.
T05 has more gears on high speed, the sponge is more reactive the more I put more power to my swing compared to M2. Hence, for some people, M2 feels more linear.
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 3:03am
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To some extent, speed is function of bounce, but not always. So
Speed 8/10 9/10
Please also note that M2 is harder than T05, I used a 37 d M2 because 36 are still travelling my way.
Did not use VOC glue, but M2 reacts good to, say, Millennium Chack of BTY which is kind of pre-glue booster. Didn't use any tuning or booster though. The sponge of M2 may crack if removed with force or after strong adhesive glue.
Throw of M2 37 d is higher than T05's, M2 @ 34 might be equal or even lower.
M2 @ 37 has more power when strongly hit, hence more gears in the upper department
Power 8/10 9/10
I do not exclude the possibility of bad consorting terms between Hurricane King and Tenergy 05, so another criterium pops up
Blade independance 7/10 10/10
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P.S. My current rating is 1800 +- 50, I am 56 years old, trained TT as a boy (12-17) as a member of a junior team, then quitted (1971 - 2009) and now back in love. I run a private TT club with 5 tables and robot and occasionalyy coach children and beginners - mainly on sparring terms.
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Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 11:58am
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Wow, thx for the detailed analysis, but M2 has higher throw than T05, more speed and less spin? How do you keep ball on table? Does M2 have any weakness? |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:07pm
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Yes, it is too cheap. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:08pm
When you say more reactive about the M2 sponge, what density did you use? I just ordered a few 33/34 degree M2's and will test them on my TBS and Photino. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:12pm
| I use 33/34. I should've been more clear. T05's sponge is more reactive, it does what it's advertised hold and shoot, while M2 is just like any other sponges.. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:15pm
I can't wait, should be interesting testing.
Thanks!! ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:27pm
), it ripped the sponge. It's a lot more brittle than my Venus 2 and Omega 2
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Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:32pm
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Hey dual, I think I remember you tried cj8000 j-sponge 36-38 some time back and weren't too impressed with it. How does M2 33/34 compare to palio 36-38 hardness? BTW, rofl on the "it's too cheap" comment Imago. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:42pm
Hi pushchop, you have good memory! 
I am not too impressed with CJ8000 Japanese Sponge 36-38.. It's an ok rubber to me.
CJ8000 JS is very nicely built, the topsheet is very nice, high quality, real smooth and grippy.
M2 OTOH, the build is rather rough.. You can feel the sponge is giving you cheap feeling, the surface of topsheet is a little rough, definitely not as smooth.
CJ8000 has good control, everything lands on the table, but when I ripped FH loop with it, it doesn't have that spin, kick, or dive like M2 does. I thought it was my blade, but I tried it with 3 of my bats, same result.. All around rubber, nothing more, nothing less.
M2, despite it's rough appearance, it has great spin and faster IMO, doesn't have as strong kick or dive on loops like Venus 2, but it does everything well.
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Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:49pm
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I like the words I'm hearing. Linear. Spinny dives. Grippy. Sounds great for BH. But is the throw really higher than T05? That actually concerns me for blocking. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 12:59pm
I have used T05/T64 many times and no, M2 is not high throw like them..
Medium high at most.
I use M2 on my bh blocking and opening loops mainly..
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Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 1:02pm
| What about tackiness of M2 compared to Tenergy? |
Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 1:10pm
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So in summary, linear medium throw grippy rubber with great spin and good speed. I'm sold! Thx guys! |
Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 5:20pm
I agree with pushchop here. You can't have a higher throw angle with more speed and less spin. Impossible. angle=atan(veriticle speed/horizontal speed). The same force that causes the verticle speed also causes spin. If M2 has less spin it will also have less verticle speed. If M2 also has a greater horizontal speed then do the math. M2's throw angle must be lower. I don't see how one can say a rubber has all these attributes list in the table. ------------- I TT therefore I am |
Posted By: Klaus123
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 5:28pm
| Sorry imago, but i really don’t believe you a word. Mercury II faster and more power than Tenergy 05? My dealer says Mercury II is slower than Moon, and Moon is slower than Tenergy 05, i think this is reality. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/17/2011 at 5:45pm
Why doubt if you haven't tried it? It's cheap enough to find out. I'm sure your dealer will be happy to fill your T05 order. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 12:22am
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I just made an order for 4 units of M2 in 33 sponge. Price is unbelievable. 1 Sriver EL = 4 M2 plus shipping ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 1:02am
+1
For $4/piece, you have almost nothing to lose.
IMO, I take every reviews with grain of salt, after all, we are talking about human perception, which is full of errors most of the time and can't be scientifically proven. Just try it yourself and post your findings.
Galaxy rates Venus 2 faster than Mercury 2, and I think it's otherwise
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 2:22am
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That's right. Even the slowest M2 is faster than V2. And this is because V2 topsh*t is too hard and its sponge is less reactive. And they - Yinhe - have also lied that V2 is MaxTense. Try Sun or Moon and see for yourself. Different "planets" indeed. For me, V2 is deterioration as compared to V1, while M2 is a revolution as compared to M1.
As for the throw, the problem is in Tenergy, not in M2. Throw is a function of friction and momentum (or angular momentum, to use one term). Friction resolves to spin, momentum - to speed and power, meaning that the impulse generated by M2 is higher than the impulse generated by T05.
Besides, don't forget that Mercury 2 @ 34 is different from Mercury 2 @ 37 degrees. The former has lower throw than T05 - BUT - on different blades. Have no idea what will be the behavior of T05 on an ALL+ blade - and no intention to find out.
Besides, Sun is much slower than M2 - and Sun is said to be faster than Moon! Try them.
P.S. It turned out that Moon 38 is faster than Sun 36. So all depends on hardness and blade used.
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Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/18/2011 at 12:05pm
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Imago, I agree with you. V1 was way better than V2, softer topsheet, it was a joy to play with.
M1 is junk to me, very heavy, very hard topsheet, very sensitive to incoming spin, and super slow. That's why when I bought M2, I didn't have too much expectation..
Sun/Moon are slower??
 I have 2 sheets in my box that I saved, hoping to try them after my tourneys next month..PS: Just saw your post about them lol
Thanks
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Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 02/19/2011 at 5:25am
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Great service from ttnpp. Ordered and was shipped the same day. Should get it by next week. Does the M2 sponge need priming before use? Or will 1 coat of VOC glue on the sponge and blade be good enough. ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 02/19/2011 at 5:38am
| No need for boosters or tuners. Plays out of the box. |
Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 02/19/2011 at 11:17am
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Sorry if I'm derailing the M2 thread... jt99sf, you were at SFTTC last night? Turns out I hit with you for 3 mins when my opponent went for restroom break. One of the guys asked if I knew you, they mentioned your name. Then this morning I thought, you know that guy looked really familiar. Have I seen a pic of him on some forum before? Yes!  The chopping I was doing with you was just for fun, but I've been incorporating it more just to throw off the pace. Thx for the tips. We'll see how this M2 34 performs soon enough. I ordered a few sheets too. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/19/2011 at 12:35pm
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/19/2011 at 1:48pm
It was nice hitting with you last night, good rbh! Thanks to dual700, I ordered 10 sheets of the M2 (sponge =33) and also med pips for my BH. It s/b interesting to try on my TBS and Photino.
JL ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 02/20/2011 at 1:44am
JL, please don't beat me up if you don't like M2, ok?
I work for YinHe
j/k |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 02/20/2011 at 10:14am
@dual700, I have nothing but gratitude.
if the M2 plays anywhere close to the CJ8000, I'll be very happy.My order was just sent... ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: superjet
Date Posted: 02/23/2011 at 8:21pm
| I like to try one,But what Hardness,How's the M2 33 vs 37 ? Or may be I should try the 35 ? |
Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 03/02/2011 at 10:01pm
I just received my 2 sheets of Mercury II from ttnpp. I got both 37
degrees. I opened the red and the sponge is very firm, probably high 40s
to low 50s in the european/japanese hardness scale. Sponge looks to be a
little porous. Quality out of the package appears very good for the
price.  
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Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 03/02/2011 at 10:12pm
| Just remembered to weight it before I start putting glue on it. It is 63 grams uncut which was expected since the sponge is dense. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/03/2011 at 3:03am
| 63 is very good. Several of the red rubbers from the last batch I've got from ttnpp weighed over 70 g. |
Posted By: van_doorn
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 5:51am
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Orded a sheet of 36 and 33 degree! Will slap it on TB ALC or MJ :)
------------- Butterfly Harimoto sZLC Butterfly Tenergy 05 Xiom Vega Japan http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=35143&PID=432629#432629" rel="nofollow - MyFeedbackSection |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 10:59am
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http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40244&title=galaxy-m2-rubber - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40244&title=galaxy-m2-rubber
Anyone else wants to post their reviews?
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 12:08pm
| It would be nice to merge both topics into one. |
Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 12:43pm
My order is still stuck in HK post office, customs snafu or something.  |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 1:05pm
I'll be at SFTTC tonight to try it out on my TBS. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 03/04/2011 at 1:39pm
| This is what I love about the Internet. I talk to people on forums and don't even realize they frequent same clubs! Guess I'll have to show up tonight if I want a preview of my order. |
Posted By: viktorovich
Date Posted: 03/05/2011 at 8:28pm
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I played М2 black max 36d a white sponge. Good. Throw - more low than Т05. I saw a photo of a yellow sponge 37d.Probably various structure of sponges ? It is interesting, whether someone can measure density of a sponge and topsheet separately ? I think that the best rubber in series М2 will be - with equal density at both. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 11:11am
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Just ordered couple more of M2s before Imago cleaned them
Where is kelvinyoong and sweetstrike? Did u guys like them?
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Posted By: tomas.gt
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 11:29am
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it is quite good without tuning. I guess it will be really good with tuning. The most surprising thing I noticed - wow, this chinese rubber has quite noisy sound. red, 36deg, but I think it is harder than 36. ------------- Kokutaku Bishu no.1 ST - H3N red , BTfly Spinart 2.1 black |
Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 12:39pm
I really want to try it out but I just strained my shoulder so it'll probably take a week or two to heal. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 2:20pm
Sorry to hear!!
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Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 7:45pm
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Finally got a chance to play with my 34 degree red and black sheets. I'll have to agree that it is a very good rubber for the price. It plays similarly to my 36-38 degree CJ8000 j-sponge in terms of throw angle, except pushes are a tad higher. Even though my M2 is 34 degrees, it doesn't feel that soft. Has a muddy/crunchy feel to sponge that feels a bit cheap like dual700 said. CJ8000 j-sponge has a more dense crisp feeling when hitting with power. In any case, I had no problem at all switching from BW2 39 and CJ8000 36-38 to M2 34 on FH and BH. It is easy to adjust to. |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 03/07/2011 at 8:59pm
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Sorry am busy with work so not much time to play these past few days. Playing with it a bit it feels like the 36-38 of the HK1997 Biotech sponge but softer. Sponge is lighter and not as good quality as the BioTech sponge. The M2 sponge seems to be a bit more porous as well. ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: pushchop
Date Posted: 03/08/2011 at 2:09pm
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BTW, M2 34 is really freakin spinny! Great off the bounce kick. I just can't get past that crunchy/cheap feeling of the sponge...am sticking with BW2 for now. |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 03/09/2011 at 11:23am
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/09/2011 at 12:10pm
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I really like it so far. I just need to get it past the tacky to the grippy stage, then it'll be perfect.
It's a great value rubber. The 34 degree sponge is working well for me. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 03/09/2011 at 8:36pm
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@jt99sf What colour is the sponge of your M2? In the other post the pictures show the sponge to be yellow or light orange or could be due to lighting. The 33 degree i have the sponge is cream white and doesn't feel very dense. ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |
Posted By: JasonRShaver
Date Posted: 03/09/2011 at 11:10pm
We sell it at TTX, in 1.8mm, 2.0mm, and 2.3mm and in 33, 37, and 41 degree in the Shore-A scale (some stores carry Galaxy products in the Shore-D scale). All it all, it is a REALLY great product for the price and it is better than the previous Mercury. We sell about 30 sheets a month and it is the 3rd best selling Galaxy rubber this year (13th best selling product all-together) as 3/09
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Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 12:43am
the sponge for the black topsheet is yellow, I haven't opened the red rubber yet.
tonite, the topsheet is starting to be grippy. it plays really nice on my TBS. ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: JasonRShaver
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 2:26am
All of the ones we have at TTX are white/creamish and we got a pretty large amount just last week from China. I have never seen a yellow or yellowish one before, but the picture shows yours as having the new font for markings that is only 3-4 months old (and the rubber itself has only been out for 5-6 months). Weird
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Posted By: viktorovich
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 7:55am
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? Someone else can tell that:
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 11:35am
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Define throw |
Posted By: dual700
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 11:50am
If you look at the wall on pic #1, it's brown. Compare it with the rest.. Look at his skin too.
All the M2 I got, they are creamish color sponged.
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Posted By: ttran82
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 12:01pm
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I just got 4 sheets: 2 black (34, 37) and 2 reds (34, 36) and they are all cream color. I'm putting red 34 on my T-8 Physically appearance looked good for the price. I'll try it out today and will update later today. |
Posted By: tomas.gt
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 12:13pm
Compared to the rubber I am used to, lower throw rubber results in more balls going into the net when looping the same way as I am used with my current rubber. It is obvious when I step further from the table. Also, for low throw rubbers, counters are flatter and there is less space between ball trajectory and the net. Higher throw is the opposite.
mercuryII 36degrees is rather high throw rubber., definitely not low throw. ------------- Kokutaku Bishu no.1 ST - H3N red , BTfly Spinart 2.1 black |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 1:33pm
| I sticked to the same understanding when saying that M2 @ 37 d has higher throw than T05. |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 3:49pm
M2 34 degree sponge:
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Posted By: 1dennistt
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 4:58pm
Carried a Galaxy N-10 blade with Mercury 2 on both sides to the club last night, and loaned it to one of the 1000 level players. He loved it, put down his Hammond Pro Beta/Coppa Speed, and played this new racket all night.  Amazing how many of his shots stayed on the table (he's a big guy and swings hard), from pushes to loops all of his shots were better with equipment appropriate for his skill level. This stuff worked wonders. On Monday I loaned the same racket to one of our beginners, she had learned to play at home with her brother, and seemed to take to the Galaxy setup immediately. Really liked the Red 34 degree side of the paddle. Haven't told either of them how much this wonder rubber costs!  ------------- Donic Waldner World Champion 1989 ZLC (Inner), Donic BlueStorm Pro (Red) Max, ????? (Black) 1.8 mm) |
Posted By: jt99sf
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 5:02pm
If something works for you: Priceless!! ------------- Photino/Super Viscaria : H3 (FH)/Dr N pips(BH)林德成 HardBat:Hock 3-Ply /Dr Evil |
Posted By: ttran82
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 5:25pm
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My setup: Galaxy T-8, Gambler Six Shooter 2.0 pretuned black on FH, Mercury 2 34 deg red on BH. Ok, here is my initial impression on Mercury 2: It's slow and sticky. Definitely not good on FH. I actually tried to play on FH first and it's not good on power loop. It bottom out fast and my loops went to the net more. Throw angle seemed to be similar to Tenergy 05 as I didn't have to adjust my blade angle. Once I switched to BH, it's much better. It's seemed to be very good at blocking topspin as the it seemed to absored much of the incoming spin. I also tried some BH flicks and it's also good. When I tried BH loop, I really need to give more efforts. So far, playing with it for about an hour, I would say it's a good all round rubber for BH. It would have to wait for the stickiness to wear out to see how it will perform later. For now, it's worth more than $4.
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Posted By: kelvinyoong
Date Posted: 03/10/2011 at 6:04pm
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Thanks jt99sf. Your M2 34 sponge has the same exact color as the M2 33 sponge that i have. Maybe the denser 36 or 37 sponge is different or different batch. ------------- Andrzej Grubba AN Sriver 2.1 Sriver 1.9 |