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Topic: The Hungarian Open...
Posted By: takaaki
Subject: The Hungarian Open...
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 5:22pm
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starts tomorrow. mizutani jun and chuang chih-yuan are the top seeds on the men's side and fukuhara ai and jiang hua-jun are the top seeds on the women's. also, joergen persson is making a comeback. apparently, he wants to play in the 2012 Olympics. he's in chuang's half of the draw. anyhow in the U21s the top seeds on the boy's side are daniel kosiba and niwa koki and on the girl's side it's ishigaki yuka and teammate ishikawa kasumi. ITTV will start streaming live this friday @ 10 am CET or 4 am ET here in north america, though they may be posting vids "on demand" before that. also, there's another thread here which says that there's a hungarian website which will also provide a live stream. so, there's lot's of TT online this week!! here's the link to the ittf's "hungarian open" page: http://www.ittf.com/competitions/competitions2.asp?Competition_ID=1989&category=PT - http://www.ittf.com/competitions/competitions2.asp?Competition_ID=1989&category=PT |
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Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 5:26pm
| Why open another topic for this? The Hungarians have already opened one. Please post there. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 5:31pm
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someone opened another thread for the euro-asia event about an hour or so ago. if you actually are soooo concerned about duplicate threads, then why haven't you posted the same message there? oh, and in response to your (bogus) question, i opened this thread, cuz that hungarian guy opened his thread evidently to plug his website. |
Posted By: fructu
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 7:44pm
| Anyway, thanks a lot takaai. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 8:24pm
| you're very welcome!!!! |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 10/12/2010 at 10:20pm
| The Chinese are only sending their young boys to play. They aren't sending any of their young girl players. I was hoping to see Zhu Yuling play, she did so well in the Japan Open |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 3:54am
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LIVE : http://moatsz.ppko.tv - moatsz.ppko.tv ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: Hans Regenkurt
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 5:03am
Yes, that was unecessary, too. I'm annoyed by people wanting to be the first to open a new topic on competitions (however, on equipment reviews, I pretty support opening new threads). Sometimes I wish the mods would put an end to this. |
takaaki wrote:Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 9:07am
thanks, pll!! one question, though: when will your livestream start?? |
Posted By: patrick1v
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 11:06am
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its on right now |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 11:23am
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yes we are on air, we stop streaming between matches, I hope the twitter widget works with information pieces ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 11:39am
it's not working for me, PLL. all i see is a blank (black) screen. |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 11:54am
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its on air at the moment Karlsson vs Fucic u21 group is shown, its a simple flash player embedded. refresh the player refresh the site ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 11:58am
| i've done that several times and it still doesn't work. is it available to everybody in the world or only hungarians or europeans?? |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 12:02pm
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its open all over the world, We had many viewers from Europe...I can check stat tomorrow ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 12:04pm
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Works in UK. They claim you can watch on youtube as well: http://www.youtube.com/user/pllsystem
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Posted By: vvk1
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 12:06pm
| Just select the " - PPKO TV rövidfilmek " channel. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 12:19pm
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i even turned off my firewall just to see and no matter what i do, it just doesn't work, so i give up!! thanks anyway, PLL...  |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 12:49pm
works for me! ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 2:32pm
Ditto, I'm watching that and the Euro Asia challenge atm.
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 2:58pm
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ok, well, i guess i just have to wait till friday when ittv comes on... boo hoo hoo!!
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 4:21pm
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browser? somtimes chrome says missing plugin ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/13/2010 at 4:28pm
i used both firefox and internet explorer--neither of them worked. and i even turned off the firewall... |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 2:06am
china is sending 3 cpens boys fan,zheng and wu i m wishing to see them!
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 4:10am
location? ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 4:18am
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you can watch favourites on 15 oct jun mizutani 13.00, 17.30 cet yoshida kaii 13.45 cet ryu seung min 14.30, 18.15 cet yoon yae young 15.15 cet pls let others know since i canot communicate to asia ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 4:25am
USA. |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 5:11am
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havent got a slight idea.. we had 32 viewers from there.. i would suggest bwin, since the guys from there working next to us but as far as I know it is restricted in usa(?) ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 8:28am
Very nice stream, excellent quality and lag free 
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 9:49am
yes, that's right, bwin is blocked to people in the usa, cuz gambling on sports here is illegal, though you wouldn't know it with all the gambling that does go on!! anyhow, it's ok, it's only the qualis--i guess i can wait til tomorrow when ittv comes on... boo hoo hoo hoo hoo!! |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 10:41am
Thanks, unfortunatelly I cant find players from Canada  ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 1:28pm
yeah, i would like to see them, too. and lin guoyuan and yin hang. but, looking at the main draw, apparently, only zheng and lin got thru the qualis. no surprise... zheng is up against bobocica of italy and lin has play pistej of slovakia. and i guess we'll find out soon enough how good they are. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 2:04pm
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/14/2010 at 4:21pm
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hmm...as far as I know itTV will stream up only the last day live. from tomorrow they record and upload matches to their on demand library ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 4:14am
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today you can watch Mizutani, Matsudaira, Ryu Seung Min etc.... Watch us
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Posted By: nguy0138
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 8:46am
+1
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 10:59am
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tnx from 18.15CET Ryu vs Kenta Matsudaira :) ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:02pm
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Janos Jakab beat Tang Peng!! wow...
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:03pm
yep. watching it now... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: tablet92
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:14pm
| Ryu is struggling with kenta's serves |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:26pm
| i notice the hungarian judges are strictly enforcing the different color shirt rule. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:26pm
Not only that. he is considerably slower than he was just 1-2 years ago. Losing 2-3 right now... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:35pm
| Ryu is washed up...I'm thinking his retirement won't come soon enough... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:35pm
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That's it, Ryu lost 2-4. He was so upset in the end that he threw his racket, almost hit an umpire and barely touched Kenta when shaking hands after that... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: ttCrawsaive
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:36pm
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Great quality, and great angle, I am really happy about the site.
Thanks! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/user/ttCrawsaive |
Posted By: tablet92
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:37pm
| I also noticed that Ryu simply doesn't care sometimes, I believe in the third set he was losing 9-4 and his body language clearly said that he won't try to comeback in that set |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 1:44pm
He's supposed to be #21 in the world, I don't think he's anywhere close to that personally and think Kenta is also over-rated at his current of #67, but this is just going to keep on happening to Ryu until he does retire. He doesn't really seem to care enough anymore to keep an edge, if he did, he wouldn't have gone to play in the French League, that's just some easy wins against vastly inferior players.
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Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 4:16pm
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boy, the mattenets are a rough family, for sure. not only is adrien kicking ass, but his sister, audrey, took out no. 2 seed jiang huajun earlier today. that's gotta be the biggest win of her life!! also, speaking of adrien, you guys should look at his match today with habesohn. they were just pounding the living crap outta that ball and the match went all the way to the end. they posted it at ITTV. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 4:23pm
yeah, he's lost his motivation, for sure. the game has changed and he is obsolete. i honestly think the traditional penhold players at the upper levels are about to go the way of the dinosaur. you just can't get by anymore at that level without a backhand counterloop. and i agree he's totally overrated at 21, but, on the other hand, i do think kenta should be higher than 67, but not by a whole lot. |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 4:25pm
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Looks like Persson's comeback was a bit shortlived, barely beating a guy I've never heard of before and then losing to Thomas Keinath in the 2nd round. Also little Eloi beat the little Koki, lol, perhaps shortest match of the tournament? pun pun puuuuun~ Crisan lost to a nobody from Korea, big surprise...not. Yoshida Kaii lost to a nobody from Turkey...Bora Vang? Tang Peng lost to Janos Jakob from Hungary. Mattenet took down Yoon. Kenta beat Ryu....man, what is up with this tournament? Chaos, utter chaos. lol, omg, they made Eloi change his shirt because he was wearing a red and white one and he lost the coin toss to a guy wearing a black and red one, so he wore some vest looking black and white checkered looking thing.
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 4:44pm
oh come on...on rating central he's not even in the top 200, he's gone 3 wins 11 losses this year in ITTF events... in pro tours 1 he lost both qualifiers and didn't make the draw, 3 he lost his first match in the draw, and one he beat Salifou from France then lost and another he beat a qualifier nobody and then lost. 3 wins in a year (5 now)? Over Salifou, Carlos Machado and Xue Jie Pang (and now Ryu and Peter Musko)? And he be top 50 or so? You have to do better than that, there's 50 Chinese probably better than him...
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Posted By: Stef
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 8:21pm
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A couple of videos from the bwin stream: MS-R32:
Zheng Peifeng (CHN) - Jiang Tianyi (HKG)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LOKG27BE - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LOKG27BE
Young Chinese penhold player (born in 1996) shows really great skills against an experienced top player. The angle and sidespin on his inside out forehand topspin is quite impressive.
He Zhi Wen (ESP) - Evgueni Chtchetinine (BLR)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VZP3NW35 - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VZP3NW35
Watching He Zhi Wen play defenders always puts a smile on my face: so simple, yet so effective :-)
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 9:00pm
Didn't he lose to a defender in the olympics?  http://www.ittf.com/_front_page/ittf_full_story1.asp?ID=22289&Competition_ID=1989& - http://www.ittf.com/_front_page/ittf_full_story1.asp?ID=22289&Competition_ID=1989& Amazing, #3, 4, 5, 6 seeds all lose in the 2nd round...
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Posted By: turtle168
Date Posted: 10/15/2010 at 9:23pm
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Stef, Can you please record and upload every game played and will be played by He Zhi Wen? Thanks a million! ------------- DHS PF4-032 FH: Dawei 388D-1 (OX) BH: Friendship 729 802 |
Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 11:45am
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Men's Singles - Round of 16
Jun Mizutani vs Damien Eloi
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VDOEWWNG - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VDOEWWNG
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VDOEWWNG - Kenta Matsudaira vs Thomas Keinath http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SPYOMPUZ - http://www.megaupload.com/?d=SPYOMPUZ |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 2:31pm
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the hungarian open is on live now at ITTV. mizutani jun just took out some russian guy, 4-1. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 2:36pm
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and the next match will be jiang tianyi vs the great matsudaira kenta!!
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 2:36pm
lol, "some russian guy" Fedor Kuzmin. My god...Kenta is destroying Jiang Tianyi... 11-6, 11-3 so far... I don't get it, just seems like he's a totally different player, alternating sides attacking, good opening loops, serves better... aggressive over the table...what is this? New coach? New blade? Something's different...
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 3:19pm
| Wow...Kenta beat Jiang Tianyi 4-2...wow... |
Posted By: Mdman
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 3:23pm
| Are any of the games on YouTube ??? |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 3:26pm
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y'see, jonan the clueless, 3 upsets so far!! the guy is underrated, not overrated. but you're still looking at those bogus ratings central rankings, so no wonder you can't figure it out!!! these wins are probably gonna put him up into the 40s or 30s which is probably where he belongs... |
Posted By: rui pedro81
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 4:33pm
underrated lol... nice joke just cuz u like his cute serves doesnt mean he should be anywhere near top 40 or 30. OVERRATED
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 6:32pm
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+1- over rated. |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 7:59pm
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-1 --underrated. his serves are sooooo cute!! |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 10:37pm
Oh come on, if you look at his record before this tournament he has done nothing, compared to his previous record this is a fluke, he gets destroyed on a regular basis by nobodies playing in Europe, something is different here...and rating central isn't bogus, it takes into account the league plays, you know that. The previous 2 years he's gotten destroyed in the German and Champions league, he couldn't beat anyone there, who knows, maybe he needs his coach to play well and since Mizu was there he got coached by him as well, but he's not this good, this is probably his one decent tournament he's going to have...
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/16/2010 at 10:53pm
| Oh my...not a fluke with the European championship? Viktoria Pavlovich beat Fukuhara Ai...weird... |
Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 6:13am
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Bravo Samara! Good game against Pavlovich.
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 7:15am
You can watch all of the matches I broadcasted. http://www.youtube.com/user/pllsystem#grid/user/DB8BEBC782EBBBD4 - Here you are (continuously being uploaded) ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 9:01am
11-0 set for kenta and he didn't even put his serve into the net
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Posted By: Metallis
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 9:09am
| So when they start streaming at ittv? I only see a "coming up soon" message. |
Posted By: Ciprian
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 9:38am
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I think in 10-15 min ,the women doubles final.
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 11:23am
Yes, but that was the only set he won, after 2 upsets, 1 of which wasn't all that surprising, the falling and vastly over rated Ryu, he's finally out and the top 2 seeds meet in the final, order has been restored.
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 11:25am
Hungarian Open 2010 Jun Mizutani vs Dmitrij Prokopcov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91EFh4rRE1k - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91EFh4rRE1k
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 12:39pm
Hungarian Open 2010 - Kenta Matsudaira vs Chuang Chih Yuan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3MZikrzh4Q - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3MZikrzh4Q
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Posted By: DaHobbit
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 1:10pm
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Very intense men's finals. I didn't expect Mizutani to level score after 1-3.
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Posted By: tablet92
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 1:26pm
| Amazing match! |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 2:00pm
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yeah, what a great match!! feel bad for chuang--he saved 2 match points with edge balls, but it just wasn't meant to be. he was so close to winning his first pro tour event since '03. on the other hand, mizutani deserved it. he had to play 3 matches today and he must have been tired, but he sucked it in and pulled out the win. now, he's off to austria... |
Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 5:03pm
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Kenta Matsudaira Niwa Koki-Jun Mizutani Kaii Yoshida: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbHmh_LdsMY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbHmh_LdsMY ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 5:45pm
wooohooo ttdaily and countenance must be brave to use itTV & Hungarian SportTV production as theirs ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 5:46pm
explain more please
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 5:47pm
Hungarian Open 2010 - Jun Mizutani vs Chuang Chih Yuan (Amazing Match!!! - Final) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ41Jvu0jHE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJ41Jvu0jHE
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Posted By: l00p
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 6:13pm
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Hungarian Open 2010: Jun Mizutani-Fedor Kuzmin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQfYU8sEo4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHQfYU8sEo4 Hungarian Open 2010: Kenta Matsudaira-Jiang Tianyi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mr_MBColqY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mr_MBColqY Hungarian Open 2010: Jun Mizutani-Dimitrij Prokopcov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG-kz70CxZM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG-kz70CxZM Hungarian Open 2010: Chuang Chih Yuan-Kenta Matsudaira http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-w3sQkCxt8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-w3sQkCxt8 Hungarian Open 2010: Koki Niwa/Kenta Matsudaira-Jun Mizutani/Kai Yoshida http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEn2k8LJ5E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wEn2k8LJ5E Hungarian Open 2010: Jun Mizutani-Chuang Chih Yuan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewk335VAfI4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewk335VAfI4 Credits to ttprovider! |
Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 6:52pm
what? these productions are made and broadcasted by the Hungarian Sport1TV not by ttcountenance and ttdaily. I just wonder youtube doesnt mind the copyrights ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 7:12pm
Every single thing they post is stolen, ripped, and in violation of international copyrights...they are constantly getting accounts shut down, nothing new or news.
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 8:33pm
lets not complain and enjoy the footage... without me and ttcountenance/ttprovider ect how boring would tt be on the internet?? |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/17/2010 at 9:10pm
Not complaining, just stating the facts. I listen to songs on youtube, and watch table tennis on there too.
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Posted By: WSCHLAGER_ADAM
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 4:41am
| do you have any video? |
Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 6:18am
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Women's Singles Final Hungarian Open 2010
Elizabeta Samara vs Tie Yana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK4cTYKRVmw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK4cTYKRVmw
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 7:11am
ok cool bro :) I know what your saying tho,,, i am going to cry the day they take my account away from me lol
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Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 7:12am
Thanks GECA!!
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Posted By: PLLsystem
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 7:18am
I am convinced ITTF doesnt complain since its also a good promotion for them. Anyway here you are my own production, http://www.youtube.com/user/pllsystem#g/c/DB8BEBC782EBBBD4 - uploaded some new matches http://www.youtube.com/user/pllsystem#p/c/DB8BEBC782EBBBD4/31/1ikwN1I5kPo - Matsudaira vs Ryu1 http://www.youtube.com/user/pllsystem#p/c/DB8BEBC782EBBBD4/30/2PqsW8yorSU - Matsudaira vs Ryu2 ------------- we make real professional handmade table tennis blades - ospblades.com |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 8:53am
fantastic uploads!!! i didnt realise kenta beat ryu!!
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Posted By: elcapitan_thfc
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 9:24am
I don't think he's overrated. Im my opinion he has been changing alot in his game like his service return and his forehand, and he then suffered a dip in form while he worked on these things. His confidence seems to have suffered because of that. I think that in Hungary he is still not playing to his potential, but I think he is alot more aggressive than before and has alot more variation in his game. After all, how many players ranked outside the top 50 have beaten players such as Xu Xin, Ryu, Oh Sang Eun (twice), Tang Peng (twice), Ovtcharov, Suss, Baum.... I doubt very many. ------------- Stiga Ebenholz NCT V Boost TX Forehand Boost TC Backahnd |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 10:52am
Your rating isn't just about who you beat, it's about who you lose to. Korea open he lost to Xiaoli Cai WR 187 and Sang Eun Jeong WR 148, Japan open he lost to Taku Takakiwa WR 87, World team championships he lost to Jesus Cantero WR 155 and Janos Jakob WR 59, German open he lost to Hyun Deok Seo WR 77, Kuwait open he lost to Dimitrij Prokopcov WR 53, Qatar open he lost Igor Rubtsov WR 72. You see where I'm going with this, or am I going to have to list off the tons of people he's lost to in the German league or from last year? Sure, every 6 months or so he makes an upset, but in that time he loses to dozens of low ranked people and has a losing record overall. In ITTF events he has a 39.3% winning average...top 20 players are like 60% and above, top 8 are in the 80%+ area. You have to consistently win to be good.
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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 11:46am
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Jun Mizutani-Chuan Chih Yuan(good quality): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TD1EWD7SA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6TD1EWD7SA ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 12:00pm
thanks bro! your version is amazing!! what a final!!
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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 12:28pm
Thanks Dan.We need to stick together even if someone is saying we are constantly violate copyrights :) More videos will come."ALL STOLEN"!Cheers!:) ------------- http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/ttCountenance Don't lose yourself in table tennis, whatever it means to you. |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 1:37pm
Awesome match, awesome recording quality, awesome post. Thanks, and please keep doing what you do.  ------------- Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80 |
Posted By: elcapitan_thfc
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 2:04pm
But you are using the same argument to say he is overrated. What I am saying is that he is where he should be because he beat the people I mentioned and he lost to the people you mentioned. That is the logic of rankings, you beat people in the top and lose to lower ranked players, then you will be ranked somewhere in the middle. Which is the case with Kenta.... ------------- Stiga Ebenholz NCT V Boost TX Forehand Boost TC Backahnd |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 10/18/2010 at 2:35pm
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don't bother wasting time discussing this with Jonan the Clueless, cuz, like, what does he know? anyhow, kenta did have a bad patch there for a while, no doubt about it, but who doesn't? but i think he belongs in the 30s or 40s and i suspect that at the next update that's where he'll end up. |