Palio Thor's & Blades
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Topic: Palio Thor's & Blades
Posted By: TheRobot99
Subject: Palio Thor's & Blades
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:07pm
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Just to note, blades by Galaxy/YinHe/MilkyWay are listed at YinHe blades. Works 1-ply Hinoki Blades 729 F-1 BBC 9-9-9 BBC 9-10-9 BBC Double Diamond BBC Fiddler Butterfly Cypress-S Butterfly Innerforce ZLF Butterfly Matsush*ta Pro Special Butterfly Maze Off Butterfly Photino Butterfly Schlager Carbon Butterfly Senkoh 90 Butterfly Timo Boll ALC Butterfly Timo Boll Spirit Butterfly Viscaria DHS Hurricane Hao DHS Hurricane King 655 Hallmark Aurora JOOLA Wing Medium JOOLA Wing Passion Fast Nexy Lissom (though with vibration) Nittaku Acoustic Nittaku Violincello Nittaku Violin Palio Emperor Dragon Palio TS3 Re-Impact Tachi Stiga Allround Wood NCT Stiga Allround Bengtsson Stiga Caliber Wood Stiga Carbokev WRB Sword Arylate Custom (mmerkel) Tibhar Black Carbon Tibhar Samsonov Alpha TSP Balsa 6.5 Xiom Ignito Xiom V1 Xiom V1 Quad Yasaka Ma Lin Extra Offensive YinHe K-4 YinHe T-2 YinHe T-6 YinHe V-1 YinHe W-1 YinHe W-6 Didn't Work Avalox P700 Butterfly Kong LH Special Butterfly Michael Maze Butterfly Petr Korbel Butterfly Senkoh 85 Butterfly Viscaria Light Hallmark Carbon Extreme Hinotec Carbon (Cornilleau?) JOOLA Sheik (out of production) Nittaku Ludeack Power Pro Stiga Clipper CR Yasaka Ma Lin Carbon YinHe Carbokev K-4 YinHe LQ-1 YinHe T-8 Iffy Butterfly Innerforce ALC Butterfly Innerforce ZLC Butterfly Jun Mizutani Butterfly Timo Boll ZLF Darker 5P-2A Darker Speed 90 OSP Virtuoso ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
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Posted By: nachalnik
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:12pm
| I have it on a slower balsa blade, BTY BalsaCarbo X3. Works like a charm. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:18pm
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Best if you simply check out the thread about Thors - it's long but there are many blades described as good and not so good for Thors. If you are looking for someone to do it for you, then right now you are out of luck...
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Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:20pm
Lol. Fair enough. I could just comb through there and make a list of blades and post it here for convenience... ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
JimT wrote:Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 3:37pm
I think somewhere inside that thread you will find my feeble attempt at the same thing... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: cotdt
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 4:39pm
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What works: Stiga Allaround NCT Timo Boll Spirit 1-ply hinoki jpen Hurricane Hao Nexy Lissom (though with vibration) Performance great, but no feel: Amultart Ma Lin Carbon |
Posted By: JohnnyChop
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 4:46pm
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for me it did not work on the mizutani!!! ------------- 729 Battle 2 Yasaka Goibao 5 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Nittaku Fastarc G1 Butterfly Cypress Max |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 7:56pm
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Added an "Iffy" category.
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Posted By: Mottaku
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 8:40pm
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Works like a charm on a Nittaku Acoustic! Does anyone know how it plays on the Timo Boll ZLF? ------------- Nittaku Acoustic DHS skyline 3 blue sponge- fh Tenergy 05- BH |
Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: 02/04/2011 at 9:18pm
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It works really well on BBC 9-9-9 and 9-10-9. It is also excellent on an old Stiga Allround Bengtsson and Palatinus OSP Virtuoso. On Darker 5P-2A it was decent, but no synergy like it has with the old Stiga and the Virtuoso. ILya ------------- BTY Mazunov ST Dignics 05 |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 12:46am
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I think you made a mistake - T-8 certainly didn't work! Ilya, are you sure there is such a blade as BBC 9-9-9 - I only know of 9-10-9? ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 12:48am
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Put Darker Speed 90 into the iffy category, I should say...
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Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 12:51am
I am quite certain, since I have two of them. Call Charlie and ask him about an "ILya" blade :-) That's the 9-9-9. ILya ------------- BTY Mazunov ST Dignics 05 |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 12:56am
Oh! I always wondered what that was. Why does Charlie give them such numeric-generic names instead of great names like Anvil or Fiddler? I dunno... 9-10-9 just doesn't sound too exciting. Maybe I should rename it into "Jimmy" or "King James"  ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: koshkin
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 2:03am
I think King James has a nice sound to it. Anyhow, 9-9-9 is a descriptive name since it refers to ply thicknesses. It is identical to 9-10-9, except the center ply is a little thinner giving the blade a touch more flex for mid-distance looping. ILya ------------- BTY Mazunov ST Dignics 05 |
Posted By: vanjr
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 9:19am
| It works very well on a yinhe (galaxy) LQ-1 |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/05/2011 at 3:23pm
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Finally got through all 47 pages of the Thor's thread. That took a while lol. Hopefully we can get a generally good trend on what does and doesn't work.
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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 9:44am
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Thank you for your hard work, TheRobot99! I really don't want to adjust to a new FH rubber, but this thread is killing me. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: mmerkel
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 9:54am
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Thanks for all the work. Are you confused yet after reading all the posts? Just one correction, the rubber worked great on my blade initially, but it was a change in the rubber characteristics (due to soap???) that made it fail, rather than not harmonizing with the blade. I would use it again on this blade in a heartbeat as it worked well for weeks. ------------- #1 RL Balance -Bluefire M2 -Acuda S2 #2 RL Avalanche#2 -Bluefire M2 -Sigma Europe #3 Primorac -Boost TP -Magna TC |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 12:51pm
Thanks icontek.
I read about the soap and I also remember when someone tried tuning with PO and it was a disaster for that person. debraj I think it was. Hence, I still say it worked. ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
Posted By: mmerkel
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 1:19pm
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...but you have my blade as not working with Thors, where I would say the blade actually work well with Thors. ------------- #1 RL Balance -Bluefire M2 -Acuda S2 #2 RL Avalanche#2 -Bluefire M2 -Sigma Europe #3 Primorac -Boost TP -Magna TC |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 1:40pm
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I'm sorry. I thought I put it in the right place lol. Good looks.
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Posted By: Thot
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 4:58pm
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I didn't like it on Virtuoso, the hard sponge of Thor's "dominates" the
blade. When I block or hit hard I can feel the blade twisting. I like it on YEO which is stiff. |
Posted By: Derf59
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 12:05pm
What do you mean by "Iffy" ? |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 12:19pm
You put T-8 into Doesn't Work category but forgot to erase it from Works ! Here iffy means "not here nor there", undecided... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Mottaku
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 12:24pm
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I would say its iffy on the timo boll ZLF.
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Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 12:34pm
Thanks for catching that. ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
Posted By: mmerkel
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 2:30pm
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You can add the Nexy Spear to the 'Didn't Work' category..
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 2:55pm
Yeah... and you still didn't fix it. Anyways I went and edited that post - hope you don't mind ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 3:15pm
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while i am playing thors on V-1, pl note yinhe v1 doesn't comply with the key requirements of thors. -it has a thick top layer of hinoki, and hence not hard. -it is fairly fast, and not off-. i think this works and doesn't work is kind of individual taste. because i didn't like it combined with yeo... and i thingk thats more because i didn't like yeo as a blade. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 02/09/2011 at 4:05pm
Great thread TheRobot99!  Here's my 2c worth.. Thor's works very well on: Re-Impact Tachi Hallmark Aurora ------------- Smart; VS>401, Dtecs OX http://tabletennisshop.com.au/index.php?main_page=page&id=42" rel="nofollow - Tenergy Alternatives | http://tabletennis-reviews.com" rel="nofollow - My TT Articles |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 9:37am
DO you have any info on why Thor does not work with T8?  ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 10:53am
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I don't really know exactly why. I'd have to check the original thread for that if it's there.
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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 2:50pm
with thor's, you have to dig in to the sponge, which needs more forward movement. With T8, an overtly fast and thick blade,... you cannot do that all the time unless you are in very good position... because otherwise the ball will fly out. plus juniper topply of t-8 is not that hard to squeeze the sponge between the blade and the ball. that's why. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 3:38pm
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That may also explain why it works for me on the Passion Fast. It has a soft outer ply, but it's stiff and since my loop stroke is more of a brush than a hit, I get the sponge by virtue of the blade.
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Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 3:54pm
@ debraj
Thank you, this is very interesting, however if I may question something... This logic seems to apply to H3 Neo too, being hard. So would you say that H3 Neo does not work well on T8? In fact I tried H3 Neo on T8 yesterday and it played very good. My rationale is that T8, being powerful, consistently provided enough power to engage the hard sponge of H3 Neo, which would otherwise be difficult without a very large swing, which you cannot always do. And the softness of the wood in the outer layer seemed to make H3 softer for some reason. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 4:33pm
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Thor's, unlike H3 Neo and H2 Neo (which I used), is a Tensor. Tensors behave a bit differently than "regular" sponges.
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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 4:55pm
nope.. h3 neo has harder topsheet than thors... it transitions from slow speed to high speed more proportionally with speed of impact. thor's doesn't. at low impact it stays low... at medium impact it hits a trough. and then after engaging the sponge again increases exponentially. if you most of your out of position counters are in the mid range, you will be frustrated with thors... and will come back saying its too low throw for you or bottoming out and hitting net or something like that. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 9:16pm
Thors (purple line) plays roughly like this graph, the harder the impact the faster it goes exponentially, the throw also lessens the same as that graph and the sensitivity to spin isn't far different either. That's why it takes so long to learn what it's going to do. A random DHS or similar rubber is the red line |
Posted By: simon_xuan
Date Posted: 04/01/2011 at 11:36pm
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It played well on my Yasaka Malin Soft Carbon cpen on the forehand. It fits the characteristic described in the prior threads. Forward motion and hit into the sponge are the key.
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Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 04/02/2011 at 3:52am
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Do you guys think Thor's will work on Dawei GTO, Dawei Wavestone, and Galaxy T4?
Thanks for the explanation. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 04/02/2011 at 7:08pm
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I dont think it works well on a Donic Waldner Senso Carbon. Although it could be my new sheet is a defect. Isnt tacky at all. very dissapointed ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 04/03/2011 at 2:16am
i was wondering... if I soften up the H3 topsheet with olive oil, will I get something similar to thors? ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 04/03/2011 at 2:27am
| seguso, no because Thors topsheet (and all esn rubbers) is something like twice as soft. Much more than just using oil will achieve, plus it's on a springy sponge |
Posted By: tremil
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 8:01am
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Hard sponge works good on hard blades Soft sponge works good on soft blades ------------- Blade: STIGA Rosewood VII BH:Dinic Baracuda FH: Hurricane 3, boosted offcours 3:) |
Posted By: zzz
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 12:51pm
My rule of thumb for good working combinations: Soft blade --> harder sponge Hard blade --> softer sponge But it depends in each case on the individual material which is used. And on the preferences the player likes more. ------------- Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 1:09pm
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------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 1:11pm
this is the common sense deduction....
..but this is the proven fact ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: zzz
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 1:23pm
OK, but not for me.  ------------- Virtuoso+ :: Mark V :: Mark V |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 04/04/2011 at 1:59pm
I agree with this too. With my personal preference of course. Although I found Chinese rubbers for me work much better on Soft Blades. But overall there isn't a large gap between capabilities with German or Japanese rubbers depending on the blade hardness. ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: beowulf
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 8:33am
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@Debraj, How is Thor's working on your F-1...?? Can I know why you are not using it on your forehand..?? ------------- Blade : Michael Maze ALC F/H : Andro Hexer 2.1 B/H : Haifu Shark II Soft Max |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 12:11pm
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beowulf: thor's seems to work much better in F-1, than Yinhe V-1. In fact now in retrospect i think V-1 should be in the "doesn't work well with thors" list than otherwise. my story is when i moved from V-1 to f-1 i had problems adjusting from 7mm to 5.9 mm blade. the stroke mechanics, dwell, throw, everything is different. And i struggled with thors on FH, but somehow it was not as difficult to adjust in BH. So i tried some H3 etc. and then my sheet of T05; and because these rubbers are easier to play with, they could somehow compensate the already existing challenge of new blade. right now i have adjusted fairly well with F-1... so in a week or so i will give thors a try again on FH. if I still feel that i'm struggling with the counter-looping issue, i might use h3 neo prov. or else continue using thors on both sides. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 1:12pm
i'm confused. at US1628, how much of your game should you be basing off a counterloop? i had read somewhere that counterlooping was the single most advanced shot in the game, and usually only seen with any consistency with US2200 and above+ players. it would seem to me that if a rubber does everything *but* counterloop well, then it is still a very good rubber for all but the most advanced players. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 1:38pm
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icontek... the rating you are referring is old, which i had told you earlier, you will soon see the new rating updated to include sacramento summer open, where i beat some higher rated players including a 1971 rated player. but i think i had posted some videos, and soon will upload some more which emphasizes counterlooping part of the game. you can hear things about 2200+or 1600+ , .. but at 1200 level it is difficult to figure out how its different ... it doesn't necessarily work on rating points but on game styles. i would rather you wait for some videos which are better credible estimates and get over the rating related myths.  ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 1:44pm
I dont know how much this is true about US players. But here in the UK is seems especially juniors or people who were/are being coached learn the counterloop the quickest. and actually loop to loop rallies is the thing they are really good at early on in their abilities. The thing they tend to learn the slowest seems to be the opening shot and touch play ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 1:48pm
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NDragon88: that was exactly the same in India... we learned counterlooping close and away from table as first lessons. and even when i couldn't push well, or couldn't serve well or didn't know how to block well, i could still counterloop 3 yards away from table consistently for ever. but I agree, for someone who is not gone through proper formal training of the game its difficult to understand that, because most likely they will instinctively block loops than taking step back and counter-looping.
------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: Ndragon88
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 1:55pm
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yep couldn't agree more. Thats why you don't see many juniors or people that were coached being too passive. They will hardly push too. Unless of course their natural game style was different. ------------- Stiga Clipper Skyline TG3 NEO/Palio Thors www.youtube.com/ndragon88 |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 4:19pm
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Maybe I am from old school too, but counter-loop, and BH\FH flick are the last things that I learned, and I rarely use them in game (only when I am well ahead, or hopelessly behide ).
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Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 04/05/2011 at 9:33pm
| Yes mhnh, if you haven't been coached that is the natural way to play. But kids now are coached counter looping first with the expectations(or hope) that they will all reach national level and need to use that shot all the time. When they play each other they do in fact counter loop to each other no matter the level they are playing at. In normal club play there's no real advantage with either style |
Posted By: jobaumi
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 3:23pm
| In my opinion the best Blade for Palio Thor's is Ma lin Carbon. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 3:42pm
Nice jump in ratings, debraj!! Congrats. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 04/18/2011 at 4:38pm
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ha ha... i didn't realize they updated it already, till i saw your post. :) thanks. ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: tremil
Date Posted: 04/19/2011 at 5:53am
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Has anyone tried thor´s on stiga optimum plus or any stiga hardwood series? ------------- Blade: STIGA Rosewood VII BH:Dinic Baracuda FH: Hurricane 3, boosted offcours 3:) |
Posted By: gatorling
Date Posted: 05/18/2011 at 12:48pm
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I'm looking to try Thor and H3 Neo out and want to find a relatively inexpensive blade to test these two rubbers out. For a year now I've trained mostly with Inspirit Quattro Light and recently moved to Palio Macro Era - but want to give harder rubbers a try at least once. Anyone have a good, cheap, recommendation for the blade? (I'm afraid that I'll probably try the setup for a week or two and then go back to my PME setup..but I crave the precise short game afforded by the Thor and H3). Lately my style has trended towards a close to the table player who likes being able to do over the table top spins and occasionally take a step back and open up with a big FH top spin. I really enjoy seeing a huge arc in my shots. |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 05/18/2011 at 12:51pm
I'm using Thor's on a Stiga Rosewood NCT V and it's pure awesomeness. ------------- Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80 |
Posted By: Anton Chigurh
Date Posted: 05/18/2011 at 12:52pm
Try the Galaxy U2004. $25. http://www.colestt.com/woodblades.php.%20 - here. ------------- Neo H3 40D| Offensive S | Tenergy 80 |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 06/26/2011 at 9:46pm
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Bumping. Any updates? ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
Posted By: gatorling
Date Posted: 06/27/2011 at 9:42am
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I played the Thor's on a YinHe T-2 with H3 on the other side. Hated it, maybe it was the constant pingy hollow sound of a carbon blade but I really didn't like it. After about a week I took it off and put it on my Galaxy W6 and it was much better. Still dumped a lot of shots into the net and had to adjust my blocks but it's been about 1 1/2 weeks or about 15 hours of play and I'm almost as comfortable with the Thor as I was with the Palio Macro Era. (My previous set up with the W6 was PME max hardness max thickness on both FH and BH, before that it was IQUL and before that it was Inspirit.) In my opinion Thor's generate a lot of spin. My training partner said that my loops and top spins were a lot spinier. Comparing to PME PME is much better for flat hitting and blocking. When first starting with PME the short game suffered greatly and it took about 2 weeks to adapt to a tensor sponge (coming from IQUL). Thor is much better for all types of spin and the short game is a little better. The Thor also seems to soften up after about a week of use. Maybe is about 1-2 degrees softer now. |
Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 06/27/2011 at 10:19am
Sorry to get off topic, but I wanted to address a really good point that several people brought up. Debraj, this is making more sense now; thank you for explaining! I recognized what you described when a former junior player here (about US1700-1800 now) encouraged all of his opponents/practice partners to counterloop with him. Invariably, even lowly US1100 players are able to string together 5-10 counterloops when rallying with him during warmup or practice. I know he enjoys it immensely, and, to be honest, it's helped quite a few college kids get interested in the game (because they can hit the glory shots sooner than might be expected with older training regimens). As they progressively play better opponents with stronger and stronger opening loops, they already have an answer and already know to drop back and try and stay in or take over the point. ------------- http://bit.ly/vLMhuB" rel="nofollow - - RC1042 . OSP Virtuoso AC: PK50 + R42 |
Posted By: mike_wayne
Date Posted: 06/28/2011 at 1:59am
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Hi TheRobot99, In your list, you have written that Thor's worked well with Maze off blade and did not work well with Michael Maze blade. What is the difference between the two blades..??? |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 06/28/2011 at 12:11pm
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Posted By: mike_wayne
Date Posted: 06/29/2011 at 12:47am
Hi The Robot99, Is it possible that Thor's worked well with Maze off that might be an all wood blade and did not work with Michel Maze that is an arylate carbon blade..??  I can't think of any other possible explanation. What is your opinion..?? |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 06/29/2011 at 6:09am
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Posted By: Reiin
Date Posted: 06/29/2011 at 8:37am
It says it worked on Timo Boll Spirit then it will defenitly work on the M.Maze Off ALC aswell. Don't you worry about that. I think maybe on the didn't work list it is another Maze blade. ------------- Back to: Timo Boll ALC ST FH: T05 2.1 BH: T25 2.1 Feedback: http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=46026&KW=feedback+reiin&PID=571496&title=feedback-reiin#571496 |
Posted By: mike_wayne
Date Posted: 06/30/2011 at 3:15am
Timo Boll Spirit has hard outer ply of Koto whereas Michael Maze (ALC) has soft outer ply of Limba and somebody here had stated that Thor's require hard outer ply to play well on that blade and hence, I am not still convinced that Thor's will play well on Michael Maze (ALC)...!!! |
Posted By: ixchoo
Date Posted: 06/30/2011 at 10:49pm
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iam using tibhar black carbon with palio thor and it suits my blade... going to try if thors will work on stiga rosewood:) ------------- dont bring your parents down, they brought you up |
Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 07/02/2011 at 3:47am
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will THOR'S suit 1-ply hinoki jpen? ------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 07/02/2011 at 7:05am
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Posted By: Speedstick
Date Posted: 07/02/2011 at 7:13am
thanks. i'm gonna try it on my new jpen when it arrives. ------------- JOOLA Stellwag; Xiom Sigma Euro/Stiga Almana Sound ST BUTTERFLY Red Kim Taek Soo; XIOM Omega IV Lord, Grant what You command, and command what You will. -ST.AUGUSTINE |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 07/02/2011 at 7:24am
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Hope it goes well, Speedstick.
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Posted By: Winterhearted
Date Posted: 08/08/2011 at 10:11pm
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Works well with my Galaxy W-6. ------------- Butterfly Innerforce ZLC CPen FH: Butterfly Dignics 09c BH: Butterfly Dignics 05 |
Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 08/09/2011 at 5:15am
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Play exceptionally good on Palio TS3 - high speed, spin and very good control at the same time. Yes, it requires quick hands and higher technique level, but it's a very reasonable cost for what you get IMO. ------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α |
Posted By: gatorling
Date Posted: 08/09/2011 at 10:49am
| Want to add that I've been playing with Thor's on galaxy W6 for about 2 months now. Works great - starting to like the Thors more than PME and might also put a Thor on my BH now. |
Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 08/09/2011 at 1:09pm
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the cheapest blade on which thors works very well is my current one.. :) 729 f-1 .... ------------- 729-F1||Rhyzm-P(FH)|| Rasant Grip orRhyzm-P max(BH) http://youtu.be/y9y9nE9g778" rel="nofollow - vid1 http://youtu.be/xqNy786yGOs" rel="nofollow - Vid 2 |
Posted By: jim2204
Date Posted: 08/10/2011 at 3:01am
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this list is very confusing, first there is the question of whether M. Maze is the same blade as Maze off. I thought TBS, TB ALC, Innerforce ALC, Kong LH Special and M. Maze Off are all very similar blades, yet some are listed as worked (TBS, TB ALC, Maze Off), some as not working (Kong LH Special, M. Maze), and some as Iffy (Innerforce ALC). I wish someone can give a clear explanations, anyone? |
Posted By: jim2204
Date Posted: 08/10/2011 at 3:05am
| I have a Michael Maze Offensive, I would like to know if anyone try it on the M. Maze Offensive. |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 08/10/2011 at 5:52am
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It's the outer ply. A hard outer ply suits the hard sponge of Thor's better. Soft outer plies won't work quite as well.
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Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 08/10/2011 at 9:12am
What works for someone, may not work for others ... So you have to take it with a grain of salt . I did not like it on my TB ALC at all, it's too fast and bouncy, OTH it works fine for me on my Clippers CR, and great on my Yinhe V15. It's all depends on how you play, I guess. On my TB ALC, if I change my timing a bit then I can play OK with Thors too, but the point is I have to change... |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 08/10/2011 at 1:12pm
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Posted By: Xriz
Date Posted: 08/12/2011 at 9:51am
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hi guys, im planning to get thor on a donic defplay classic blade, any comments? will it be a bad combo or a good 1? ------------- A.T.M |
Posted By: YBFlash
Date Posted: 08/12/2011 at 10:43am
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Works for me on Acoustic. Didn`t work on Ludeack Power Pro ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso+ FH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 BH: Nittaku Fastarc G-1 |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 08/12/2011 at 11:09am
I am not sure it's that clear cut - for instance, the blade in my collection that works best with Thors is BBC 10-9-10 which has a very thick and rather softish outer ply .. around 2.3 mm (!) of cypress until you hit that carbon layer underneath. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: slaplink_pat
Date Posted: 08/12/2011 at 3:20pm
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Anyone tried Thor's on a Viscaria? I'm planning to buy both as my spare racket. ------------- Blade: Xiom AZX FH: Xiom Omega VII China Guang BH: DHS PF4 Blade: Donic Alligator Combi FH: TIbhar MXP BH: Spinlord Zeitgeist |
Posted By: stefashka
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 5:11am
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Another great combination with another Palio blade - Emperor Dragon. The blade provides very high control for handling such a fast rubber as Thor's. Excellent spin and speed. I use this blade for twiddling, so Thor's is really nice for me on both FH and RPB. ------------- Darker 7P-2A CP - Dignics 09c, TSP Curl P3α |
Posted By: chicken_brand
Date Posted: 09/06/2011 at 1:53am
great with my photino... ------------- TBS Xiom Omega IV Pro/Sriver FX New Toy Photino Thor's/??? |
Posted By: mon22
Date Posted: 10/10/2011 at 2:38pm
Yeah can someone confirm ------------- I am a total Newb. Come at me! |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 10/10/2011 at 3:11pm
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I'm finding it works quite well on my Wing Medium. I just wish there was a bit more dwell from the blade. Maybe I should look into getting a custom blade lol.
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Posted By: GSOM_GSOM11
Date Posted: 10/10/2011 at 4:05pm
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Tested Thors on Viscaria Light. IMHO, Thor`s doesn`t work on it - way too hard `bricky` feeling, no `dip` on loopdrive, too long trajectory when trying to perform a slow arcy loop. Neo or old BW2 39-40d work much better on this blade. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 10/10/2011 at 4:53pm
It was already tested on Viscaria and similar soft blades - and you are right, they usually do not go together unless it is a really thick and non-flexy blade, then it's OK (example: BBC 9-10-9 which played just superbly with Thors) ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 10/10/2011 at 5:42pm
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OP has been updated. Hooray!!! Post #100!!! ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |