Europe TOP 12, February 5-6 2011
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Topic: Europe TOP 12, February 5-6 2011
Posted By: Iseedeadpeopletoo
Subject: Europe TOP 12, February 5-6 2011
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 4:57am
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Now in Liege, Belgium, semifinals and final today, think Live on Laola1.tv. CET 11:40 SF: Vladimir Samsonov (BLR) vs. Smirnov Alexey (RUS) CET 12:30 SF: Werner Schlager (AUT) vs. Kalinikos Kreanga (GRE) CET 16:00 Final. Live on Laola1.tv. http://www.laola1.tv/en/int/more-sports/table-tennis/europe-top-12-/video/253--.html - http://www.laola1.tv/en/int/more-sports/table-tennis/europe-top-12-/video/253--.html Two upset matches yesterday, Kalinikos Kreanga (GRE) won Dimitrij Ovtcharov (GER) and Adrian Crisan (ROU) won Vladimir Samsonov (BLR). News here. http://ettu.org/ - http://ettu.org/ And here. http://www.saive.eu/fr/team-and-programation/34/2 - http://www.saive.eu/fr/team-and-programation/34/2 Players: 1. SAMSONOV Vladimir (BLR) 2. OVTCHAROV Dimitrij (GER) 3. SCHLAGER Werner (AUT) 4. SMIRNOV Alexey (RUS) 5. STEGER Bastian (GER) 6. CHEN Weixing (AUT) 7. APOLONIA Tiago (POR) 8. CRISAN Adrian (ROU) 9. KREANGA Kalinikos (GRE) 10. GERELL Par (SWE) 11. SAIVE Jean-Michel (BEL) 12. GARDOS Robert (AUT) Hope Samsonov wins  |
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 5:05am
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Was just looking at the results, Tiago lost 4-0 to Saive, that's freakin hillarious. Also Crisan beat Samsonov, and then loses to Robert Gardos, beats the top guy, loses to the bottom...he is so spotty... Also Kreanga beat Ovtcharov and Pavlovich has won all 3 of her matches to break up the otherwise all Chinese semi-final.
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 5:10am
| OMG! Pavlovich just saved 4 match points after going down 9-6 on a net ball and came back and won 12-10, wooooow, so glad I caught the end of that live, so she's going to the final! |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 7:55am
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Kreanga beat Schlager 4-1 and he will be in the final!
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Posted By: Iseedeadpeopletoo
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 11:11am
| Wow...the final was fantastic! |
Posted By: Krantz
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 11:12am
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Thanks for the link - fantastic final that was. ------------- Don’t ever give free TT lessons. Millions of novice players who haven’t taken them would feel offended. |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 12:11pm
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So weird, he stops playing in the pro tour and finally wins something resembling a major title, but that's what you get when you have Boll and Suss drop out, a WR31 guy winning.
Also chopper loses in her final
 she tried so hard...but still a good showing for the Euro champ, winning Euro championships and final in the top 12, pretty good. |
Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 12:51pm
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Posted By: jonyer1980
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 1:00pm
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An impressive final, and very well deserved victory. Kreanga was on fire this weekend. ------------- Rosewood V FL Nittaku Fastarc G1-FH Stiga DNA Pro-S MAX BH Avoid any Butterfly stuff... at abusive prices. Raw power without control means nothing |
Posted By: ChichoFicho
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 1:09pm
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Li Jiao's been toying with choppers again. ------------- Darker Speed 70 Hammond FA Speed Tyotokusen |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 1:13pm
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man, Kreanga was really on fire, indeed :) Honestly, I didn't think he could even beat Werner but here it is, beating Samsonov in the finals and becoming a champion. DAMN!!!!:) btw: is there any way we can download those vids from laola.tv? PS: Is it just my taste or the commentator was really awful? in addition, he sounds like an 18-year old T_T |
Posted By: l00p
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 4:17pm
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Thanks to ttprovider, there are the highlights on youtube: Semifinals Vladimir Samsonov - Alexei Smirnov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGUy2FvcdMU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGUy2FvcdMU Kalinikos Kreanga - Werner Schlager http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTknSpoAFQQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTknSpoAFQQ Final http://Kalinikos%20Kreanga%20-%20Vladimir%20Samsonov - Kalinikos Kreanga - Vladimir Samsonov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNjveHNg7Hs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNjveHNg7Hs |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 4:31pm
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huh, the finalists in the mens were 38 and 34 and in the womens it was 38 and 32, in both the 38 year olds winning. And in the men's the other 2 semi-finalists were 33 and 38. Sigh...where are the young people?
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Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 4:54pm
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He beat Schlager and Samsonov. I was quite surprised. LONG LIVE KREANGA'S BACKHAND!!!
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Posted By: cls2222
Date Posted: 02/06/2011 at 11:46pm
After the final Kreanga stated that he was working on improving his fitness before the tournament, which might explain why he played so well on the Europe Top 12 vs his latest tournaments. Maybe he had an injury? Who knows. Anyways, Kreanga was definitely playing very well today because he was pulling off amazing shots. Samsonov was playing well too, so you have to give credit to Kreanga for beating Samsonov in this tournament. ------------- Korbel Stiga Boost TX |
Jonan wrote:Posted By: cata_60
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 1:48am
The main reasons ,in my opinion,are:
1.The obvious chinese supremacy both women and men
2.Financial part.A kid cant fix as a goal in life to be a t.t. pro as long as he gets 50-100 times less money than a field-tennis player.
I remember in 2009,at W.C. in Belgium,there were a soccer match same time as t.t. matches .
Although local hero J.M. Saive was playing ,only about 20 spectators were in the hall.No comment
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Posted By: Stavros
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 4:37am
Kreanga appeared with very good fitness. In the past, he lost many matches from 3-1 ahead because of his fitness. His aggressive style requires an exceptional fitness. ------------- InfinityVPS - D80 - D05 |
Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 4:59am
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Viktoria Pavlovich vs Li Jiao(Women Final)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnM6SzFkURc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnM6SzFkURc
Vladimir Samsonov vs Bastian Steger(Quarter Final)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_polXrH6wA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_polXrH6wA
Werner Schlager vs Adrian Crisan(Quarter Final)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN9cy9icWr8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KN9cy9icWr8
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Posted By: chris.b40
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 6:15am
| Enjoyable finals !!! |
Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 7:14am
I'm glad krenga won.. ..quit a long time hasn't see him win a tournament.. his backhand is powerful..
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Posted By: hubie60
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 8:06am
| Samsonov had previously lost to Kreanga a few times including the round of 16 at the 2003 World Championships. |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 10:16am
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Crazy Final... Kreanga's BH is crazy, so powerful. Some incredible rallies too.. watching Kreanga ripping those BH away from the table, probably 6-7 metres back is a sight to behold. I don't think there will be another player with such explosive BH.. ever... ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: lild100
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 10:19am
That rally at 9-9 in the 7th is probably the best rally i have ever seen! Kreange is out of the screen most of it... and for Kreange to produce that sort of power and agility is incredible! He had been doing that all game... he wanted this final so bad! Totally deserved it!
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Posted By: kalinikos1991
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 10:50am
I was there the whole weekend 
In the first group-match Kreanga lost to Smirnov and he wasn't playing very well, but he grew in the tournament and how!
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Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 10:56am
Yupe, that was the best rally, in terms of quality and it's importance in such deciding moment of the match.. both players was fearless.. KReanga's coach jumped off his seat when Kreanga won that one..  Did you know that Kreanga spent some time in England when he was a junior? I read about that somewhere.. ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: takaaki
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 11:53am
yeah, he really wanted it this time, for sure. with boll out, he was probably thinking like this would be his best (and, perhaps, last) chance for a euro top-12 title. he said in the post-game interview that he didn't play much last year, cuz he was working on his conditioning. well, evidently, the work has paid off! |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 6:27pm
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Kudos to Kreanga, he is like a pocket battleship. Fully deserved to win it. Must be one of the fittest players for his age and this level of play.
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Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 6:34pm
Heehee, only a Brit would apply that term nowdays, though he'd have to be German for it to really make sense
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Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 7:17pm
Hmmm.......and why would that be then? Go on, enlighten me. ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 7:55pm
World war 2 German naval vessels famous for sinking British cargo ships? <---- I was a ww2 buff and had a little flip book of all the planes and ships used.
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Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 8:08pm
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Does anyone have the full matches of Kreanga? ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 8:44pm
Fascinating... Just to clarify then - IMHO, having attended Euro Top 12 myself, KK is relatively small/diminutive in stature, and has heavy 'firepower' in his shots particularly on BH - Hence my reference. ------------- Stratus Powerwood FH T05 BH T25 |
Posted By: Jonan
Date Posted: 02/07/2011 at 8:52pm
Oh I agree, was just trying to show that I knew the reference beyond the obvious connotation of the phrases. Pocket battleship=lots of firepower in a small package.
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Posted By: APW46
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 7:05am
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 10:54am
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Did you know that out of the 15 (fifteen) last Top-12 finals Vladi was in twelve (12!)? He lost 8 of them though... first one to Gatien in 1997 so no shame in that. Timo was in 5 finals and won them all, Waldner was in 11 finals and won 7 of them, so that's the record. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: dragon kid
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 11:05am
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It's the angle of the camera I believe.. It was too central.. btw, Vladi's tactic in the 5th and 6th sets is interesting, serving lots of BH serves. IMO, Kreanga had much trouble with that BH serves to his FH side a lot, when Kalin returned it with his FH, Vladi had lots of chance to open up strongly and put Kalin on the backfoot.. Only later when Kalin started flipping those serves with his BH, that he got his foot hold again in the match.. ------------- 'Nobody is Perfect. I am Nobody' |
Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 12:55pm
| horrible camera angle, and its even more difficult when playing kreanga who is so tiny already, and looked like a duende at the other side of the table. |
Posted By: gnome
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 1:06pm
his nickname should be beta.. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 3:04pm
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More from GECA Kalinikos Kreanga vs Dimitrij Ovtcharov http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xQpZBVMJw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5xQpZBVMJw Werner Schlager vs Par Gerell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCTUduEbfII - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCTUduEbfII ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: zzzuppp
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 3:50pm
Point of clarification-before 1990 there wasn't a 'Final' as such, it was everyone play everyone, a heck of a lot of matches (ie each player would play 11 matches, and the winner was the one with the best record). Waldner won 4 of his titles under this system-which is somehow even more impressive.
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Posted By: fiveplyian
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 3:52pm
Camera angle is ridiculous ....... Kreanga looks like a Hobbit and I thought I was watching the fourth film from the Lord of the Rings ....... perhaps Peter Jackson was directing  ------------- Ian |
Posted By: johnny89atc
Date Posted: 02/08/2011 at 6:23pm
I didn't know that, nice info! ------------- Blade: OSP Virtuoso-L RST 87gr FH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 FX 2.1 BH: Butterfly Tenergy 05 1.9 |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/27/2011 at 4:15am
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@Youtube Kreanga's
Semifinal & Final in Full Short Form [(are) not compilation(s) of highlights] o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeCf6m8iPww - o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFHKcki_Pno - ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 03/29/2011 at 8:47am
Thanks JimT,I add 2 other matches.
Bastian Steger vs Werner Schlager
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SRw4exYGQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0SRw4exYGQ
Alexei Smirnov vs Chen Weixing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XargiGO5k_c - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XargiGO5k_c
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