High throw Chinese rubber?
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Topic: High throw Chinese rubber?
Posted By: seguso
Subject: High throw Chinese rubber?
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 9:53am
My quest for a high throw Chinese rubber continues... I wonder why it is so difficult to find one. Here is what I've tried so far:
As you can see, the highest are Galaxy MercuryII and Sanwei T88-I, but still not high as I'd like them. I am about to give up and switch to some European rubber (which one?), or stick with the MercuryII and use a faster blade. So my question is: is there some Chinese rubber with higher throw than those? Maybe I should try Hurricane III no.19 sponge? And what about the new XuShaoFa 999 LSZ II tornado? And what about blue Whale II? Thanks for any help. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
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Posted By: Fruit loop
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 10:15am
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why exactly do you want such a high throw rubber? i find hurricane 3 has a pretty high throw. Ofc not as much as tenergy but still pretty high.
------------- Timo Boll Spirit FL Dr Evil ox both sides. |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 10:23am
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Because with high throw I can be more aggressive and hit hard even on low balls. In particular I can hit with the blade face more closed and the arm moving more forward and less upward, even on a low flat ball, or over the table. To the contrary, with a low throw rubber, against a low ball, sometimes I have to calm down, open the blade face more and move the arm more upwards than foreward; but in this case, since the blade face is more open, I cannot hit as hard as I want, otherwise the ball goes off the table. So I cannot be aggressive as much as I would. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Fruit loop
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 10:51am
that's the reason i use h3 over tenergy05. could just be me tho... ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FL Dr Evil ox both sides. |
seguso wrote:Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 11:15am
I don't see how this is possible. H3 forces you to open the blade more, and move the arm more upwards, so you have to decrease the arm speed compared to T05, i.e. be less aggressive in some situations. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Alex_ping
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 11:42am
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LKT Red Diamond - extremely high throw. Whale II - low-mid throw, like a Globe 999 nat. ------------- Stiga Clipper Wood FH: 49-002 BH: 21-001 |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 11:44am
Thank you, I was about to try it last month, but many users swear this is very low throw :) So can I ask you what rubbers you are familiar with, what have you been using? ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Fruit loop
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:05pm
Hurricane is tacky tho, meaning you don't have to engage the sponge as much as tenergy over the table. I've heard that red diamond is pretty close to t05. i havn't tried it tho ------------- Timo Boll Spirit FL Dr Evil ox both sides. |
Posted By: Alex_ping
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:07pm
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The second highest-throw rubber in my "rating" is Tenergy 05 ;) Most chinese rubber I've tried (729 Higher, Haifu Whale II, Globe 999 nat.) has low-mid and mid. And several (729 Focus III jap. sponge, Gambler Shadow and Wraith) is a low. ------------- Stiga Clipper Wood FH: 49-002 BH: 21-001 |
Posted By: RyKnocks
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:09pm
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Maybe in your case you need to update your blade with something slightly faster or bouncier to help you get those balls over the net. Although, not to doubt your technique, it may be a good idea to take a second look at your technique rather than finding the right equipment to compensate. I can't help but think that after trying out all that rubber and not finding something that suits you that there has to be a change in technique somewhere.
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Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:09pm
Damit, you convinced me!  I am getting one. If it is another low throw rubber, you'll feel my wrath.  ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: GeneralSpecific
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:09pm
Seconded, this is very high throw. Not as high of a throw as Tenergy 05 but still very high. Sponge is only a little harder. Tackyness is relatively low but still slightly tacky. ------------- Blade - Xiom 36.5 ALX FL Forehand - Xiom Omega V Asia 2.0mm Backhand - Victas Curl P5V with Der Materialspezialist Firestorm Soft/Outkill 1.8mm sponge |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:18pm
You are probably right, my technique is probably not perfect. However I am periodically trying low throw rubbers; I can even get used to them after a week. It's just that so far I don't see the advantage. To repeat: my impression is that low throw rubbers sometimes force you to open the blade face and use the drive; but I am a looper, I tend to avoid driving and always look for heavy topspin. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 12:19pm
Thank you general, hearing two voices is reassuring. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: pnachtwey
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 1:41pm
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I have Red Diamond on two paddles. My 729 Bomb and on my BTY BC X5. So far I use it as a FH rubber. I also have a TBS+T05+Super Anti to compare the Red Diamond to T05. Red Diamond is close to T05. Unless you are very serious there isn't a need to pay 5 times as much for T05 as the Red Diamond. If you need a rubber that is similar to what it can do as T05 I would looke at SST Pro Team. It is harder though and much more like a traditional Chinese rubber. It may take some getting used to the difference between SST Pro Team and T05. See Anton's review of SST Pro Team. http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=38907&PN=1 Now you have a red and black rubber to choose from. ------------- I TT therefore I am |
Posted By: Thot
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 4:12pm
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I've tried LKT Red Diamond GCS after I read a few good reviews here. For my disappointment it turned out to be only slightly tacky, not grippy either, and it bottoms out easily. Maybe I was unlucky and I received a bad sheet, but for me it's not easy to generate spin with it, also when I hit hard the ball leaves the blade quickly because it bottoms out. It feels like Globe 999 on Japanese sponge which I don't like, kinda slick. To be honest I liked Mercury II better, but I had the 34 hardness version and this one it bottoms out too.
Thor's was better, but it's not Chinese and the spin decreases considerably after a month and a half. In my opinion XuShaoFa with purple sponge is better than Red Diamond. I use this model: http://eacheng.net/index.php?act=detail&ID=2882 - http://eacheng.net/index.php?act=detail&ID=2882 . Beware that is harder than Red Diamond, but is much more tacky and spinier. I like hard rubbers with good control in the short game, the ball doesn't bounce uncontrollably at pushes. Loops against long serves and pushes are easier for me compared to RD. I also have XuShaoFa in black packaging, H3 Neo and BW2 but I haven't opened them yet. Do not buy this version of XuShaoFa: http://ttnpp.com/shop/xushaofa-lsz-ii-999-tornado-tension-gp-sponge-p-222.html - http://ttnpp.com/shop/xushaofa-lsz-ii-999-tornado-tension-gp-sponge-p-222.html , even if the only review for it says is T05 replacement, the topsheet degrades quickly, after a few session you can see a decolored area where the sweet spot is and it's not spinny. I tried 729 Transcend SP in the past, IIRC was high throw. Actually what you really need is speed glue. 
I know what you describe, but none of the new Chinese rubbers play like a speed glued rubber despite of what you read on the packaging. |
Posted By: AcudaDave
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 4:18pm
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Giant Dragon TopEnergy has a relatively high throw...but it's on the heavy side. GD Superspin B3 Hard also has a medium-high - high throw, and the weight is fine. Looping underspin with TopEnergy is a breeze. Give them a try. ------------- Joola Zhou Qihao 90 blade Joola Dynaryz Inferno max - BH Nittaku Moristo SP 2.0 - FH |
Posted By: AndySmith
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 4:19pm
| I guess it's not that popular at the moment, but 729 Origin surprised me. Sort of feels like a high-throwing Whale 2 to me. Not very tacky, but quite fast at the top end. Sort of a Diet Thor's, if you will. I tried it on several fast carbon blades, and it was too quick and high-throwing for me, but you may like that kind of thing... |
Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 5:39pm
| Have you tried CJ8000 on 36-38 or 39-41 biotech sponge? Throw is pretty high for being not that tacky. Not as high as T05 but it's pretty close. |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:01pm
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G666 is higher throw than the Hurricanes, but needs a few hits to get up to speed.
The original harder version of Bomb Violent had a really high throw (though strangely it wasn't tacky), newer versions are just not the same. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:10pm
Thank you pnachtwey. The problem is, somewhere else I recall you questioning the very concept of "throw", and you don't use this word here either, so I am wondering if you really understand what I want. A comparison of throw between red diamond and Galaxy Moon or Sun or MercuryII would help. Also, they say that SST pro team has low throw in the same thread you linked. (another problem is ttnpp and eacheng do not seem to sell it). ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:13pm
Thanks. Actually I forgot to add G666 to the list, but I clearly recall it had a low throw. I did not feel the difference with Hurricane3. At this point I am not going to trust any suggestion unless they explicitely compare the throw with galaxy moon or sun or mercuryII (the highest chinese rubbers I know)  ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:15pm
Interesting. Have you tried any of the following rubbers? Galaxy Moon, Galaxy Sun, Galaxy MercuryII. Can you compare CJ8000 with either of them? Thank ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:17pm
High compared to what? Have you tried Galaxy Moon, Sun or MercuryII? Thanks
Again, compared to what? (Sorry for insisting :P) ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:23pm
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h3 neo has high throw, h2 is the low throw rubber.. memo 3 has high throw ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:24pm
but what about the throw? How is it compared to the mercuryII you tried? Thanks 
But how high is the throw? :)
It's out of production, says eacheng. And 729 higher transcend is no replacement, it is low throw.
I think I am going to try some euro rubber like xiom vega pro or acuda s1... ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 6:31pm
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acuda s1 has a medium throw, vega pro is also medium ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 7:09pm
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Do you understand what a High Throw rubber is Seguso? You must hit the ball in a very different way to me. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 9:51pm
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I don't know what kind of Red Diamond Thot used but the normal stuff has a 45 degree sponge and is quite hard. Much harder than DHS @ 40 degrees, it's not the kind of sponge you can bottom out from the three sheets I've used. I think both globe 999 and H3 are mid-high throw rubbers, some of the 729 rubbers are higher than those and H2 is low throw. Even with H2 you can make a high throw ball if you want just by slowing your stroke slightly |
Posted By: danhs
Date Posted: 05/27/2011 at 11:22pm
SP Transcend is still available at Zeropong. if it's not high enough throw for you, nothing will be. It's higher than tenergy IMHO. When i used it (for several years), I played as you describe. On low balls just close the blade and rip... here it is: http://zeropong.com/product.php?productid=17668&cat=251&page=1 |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 12:05am
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Man, if there is one thing the slow tacky chinese rubbers are good for, it is high throw. Almost all of the ones on your list have high throw. I have half of the rubber on that list, but have never player w T05. Nonetheless the rubbers have pretty high throw. What blade do you use them on? I think you have a stiff blade that punches the ball out before the rubber can bite it. Try a 5ply all wood blade like Galaxy W6 or whatever.. you may get surprised. I condemned many rubbers a few years ago, and when I got a Stiga WRB OFF classic rediscovered them. All of a sudded they started 'throwing' : ) What blade do you test them on? C ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: beowulf
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 1:30am
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How is the throw of new DHS Tin Arc...???
------------- Blade : Michael Maze ALC F/H : Andro Hexer 2.1 B/H : Haifu Shark II Soft Max |
Posted By: RyKnocks
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 2:04am
+1 Again, I haven't used any of the rubber you've listed here, but if you can't find something suitable after all that rubber then either you need a new blade to add that extra "oomph" or you gotta polish up that technique. Do you have a favorite player that you try to model your play style afterwards? If so, maybe ask yourself "If he can play like that with his setup, why can't I?"
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Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 2:29am
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And what is the correlation between High throw and Long trajectory? |
Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 3:08am
when you're talking about low balls. low and short (still inside the table) or low and long (past the table)? because even with a low ball that's 4 inches inside the table, you can still swing hard and loop pretty well. it's just a matter of trusting your swing. are you having trouble making it over the net when this happens? ------------- www.youtube.com/gsutabletennis Timo Boll Spirit FL H3 Blue Sponge Black FH Tenergy 64 Red BH |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:07am
then could you please suggest a rubber with higher throw? (except T05) That would be awesome. Thanks ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:10am
I think so...  What did I say that makes you think I don't?------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:12am
Thank you danhs. I could give it a try. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:16am
Yes, my blade (Stiga Offensive Wood NCT) is all wood but it is fairly low throw. Much lower than Stiga Offensive Classic, Stiga Allround Classic, Stiga Allround Wood NCT. However, the above ones are too slow for me. I also have Clipper wood and the throw is the same as Stiga Offensive Wood NCT. Is Galaxy W6 supposed to be a clipper clone? Given that, you say with Galaxy W6 the throw will be higher? THanks ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:18am
Good point. That's why I am periodically trying to get used to low throw rubbers. IT's just that they require me to drive sometimes, instead of loop, and so far I don't see the advantage. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:30am
Here is what happens at my club: I was playing with Galaxy Moon on Stiga Offensive Wood NCT. All other players told me "it sucks, it has no arc and no spin, the trajectory is flat, the ball goes down". Here are the setups of these players:
I tried their blades, and there is no doubt that my setup has much lower throw and much less arc than theirs. I am looking for something with more arc. --- Previously I was using MercuryII on forehand, which works very well for me; then I decided to try Moon and 729 higher on forehand. The result was: I had trouble lifting low passive blocks which fell just past the table. My loops against block went to net, unless I decided (A) to drive instead of looping, or (B) to open the blade face and move the arm more upwards than foreword, similar to how you lift backspin. But (B) is slower and less comfortable. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: jabemu
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 5:15am
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I have tried a lot of china rubbers and the one with the highest throw is DHS TG2, old model and RED (the black model has a softer sponge, really is like TG3). When it is new, you need some "helpfull" to wake the rubber up with some boost or similar. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 5:32am
| Of course, Moon cannot compare to Acuda S1q but if you attach Moon 40 to a good composite blade, e.g., Shark 686, you will get enough high throw. Probably more than enough. |
Posted By: RyKnocks
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 5:52am
I just ordered the Galaxy W6 from colestt.com. From what I read, it's a loopers dream blade and plays and has the quality of blades that are much more expensive. I should be getting the blade in today or monday. I currently use a Stiga Tube Aluminum WRB, which in my opinion, hits pretty flat in terms of throw, but has all the speed and power you need. Once I get my W6 (with Dawei IQUL rubber), I'll let you know how it goes. The Galaxy M6 is supposed to be good too, and K4 is supposed to pay like the TBS. Since you have all this money to spend on testing rubbers, might as well invest in a cheap, but supposedly awesome, looping blade to see if it helps.
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Posted By: sweetstrike
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 5:55am
What I like about cj8000 is that it is a mechanical spin rubber and doesnt rely on its tackiness. The sponge does not catapult like a tensor so its more predictable for me. For the same reason it is a slower rubber. I have speed glued it though and it turns into a high throw monster (more than T05). |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 7:15am
interesting. I am looking forward to your impressions once you try it. If it's a clipper clone, I am concerned about the weight (my clipper wood is 87 gr). Once I tried the 75 gr Stiga Offensive NCT I am reluctant to use something heavier. My overall bat currently weighs only 178 grams and it's a dream. I am interested in Galaxy T2 and T11 which are supposed to be light. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 7:19am
and it is only 8.50$ at ttnpp. I will try the 36-38 deg version. Thanks ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Peter C
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 1:24pm
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The Galaxy W-6 is like the Yasaka Extra; which means it's a slower, more flexible blade, than the Clipper Wood. My one weighs 89 grams and it works well with Chinese rubbers and tensors too. As you find the Offensive Classic too slow for you, you'll probably find the W-6 isn't fast enough for you either. Don't get me wrong; it is a very good blade, for those who have the technique to generate their own power; however, it's not a blade I would consider recommending to someone like you. |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 3:26pm
Now you make me think of it, Offensive Classic was only slow for me because I was using untuned Globe 999, one of the slowest rubbers out there. So I had trouble finishing the point, even with a big swing. But with faster rubbers I could use it. The main problems would be that I am less precise with flexible blades (due to the variable throw), and that it's heavier than I like. But I like the high throw, so I could give it another try. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: Peter C
Date Posted: 05/28/2011 at 4:53pm
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Trying the Offensive Classic with faster rubbers, does strike me as a sensible option. The W-6 also has a throw you would be happy with; but it won't be as light as your Offensive Classic. Another option worth considering is the Yasaka Extra, as it is possible to get that blade, in lower weights. |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 1:55am
------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: JKC
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 1:57am
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If you can find a sheet of God Favored SP that has a higher throw than the Transcend version. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34kRbLNCcpk" rel="nofollow - Fred 49 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGShBxEKnDk%20rel=" rel="nofollow - I once could serve |
Posted By: tpgh2k
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 1:57am
hmm....what you're asking for is pretty much a european rubber...i mean look at what everyone else in your club is playing with...so of course the playing characteristics are not going to be the same. now about what your club mates said, it could be that your swing/technique just isn't suited for chinese rubbers. i don't know your playing level (you very well could be much better than me), but i'm thinking that you're just not spinning the ball enough regardless. i can't tell without a video to look at and analyze. the rubbers you are using are different than mine (H3) so i can't tell you much about the one's your currently use. if you are having trouble spinning and making your shots with H3, then i could help you out a bit more. i know for sure that H3 has plenty of speed and spin (low trajectory) as long as you know how to use it. you can also arc the ball pretty well too....just look at some of my old vids and you'll see. good luck with your search though! ------------- www.youtube.com/gsutabletennis Timo Boll Spirit FL H3 Blue Sponge Black FH Tenergy 64 Red BH |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 4:21am
Actually I am asking for the throw of a european rubber and the spin of a tacky rubber. I don't want to give up the heavy and deceiving spin of Chinese rubbers. In other words, I am asking for a faster MercuryII. :) Maybe I'll just try the 38 or 39 degree version. If the throw does not decrease, it will be perfect.
I am not sure about that, but can tell you that I have a fairly wide forehand swing and I like to brush the ball from above. To the contrary, in your youtube videos, I am not sure if you are the penholder or the shakehand player, but both of you seem to drive the ball much more than loop it. Instead I like to always loop drive, going over the ball.
I play more or less like you two in the videos. (shakehand) Thanks for the help. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 05/29/2011 at 10:15am
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palio thor's? ------------- Independent online TT Product reviewer of XIOM, STIGA, JOOLA, SANWEI, GEWO, AIR, ITC, APEX, YASAKA and ABROS ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach |
Posted By: seguso
Date Posted: 05/30/2011 at 1:39am
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I just tried T05 (six months old) and Sanwei T88-I on the same blade (Stiga Allround Wood NCT). It turns out T88-I has slightly higher throw, is faster, and spinnier. (T05 has more gears though.) So I apologize for all the fuss: it seems I already had a nearly perfect clone, and my memory was playing tricks. My next step is to try MercuryII 37 on the same blade with T05. ------------- pg5x - mxd fh & bh - https://youtu.be/dBMqj0CN7XU" rel="nofollow - 2015 video |
Posted By: bluebucket
Date Posted: 05/30/2011 at 2:31am
Thors can be highish throw but it's not Chinese, it's also probably much too fast for someone that can't play well with a mid throw rubber. As my sheets age I struggle with the speed a bit, straight out of the packet it's not excessively fast |
Posted By: TheRobot99
Date Posted: 05/30/2011 at 11:16am
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Thor's is from a Chinese company, but made in Germany. As for the tacky low throw rubbers, you're supposed to brush loop them to attack the lower balls easily. As a matter of fact, that's the only way I get decent speed from them lol. ------------- Ross Leidy Custom, DHS Hurricane III Neos, Nittaku Nodias Xiom Fuga, Globe 999 National 39, Nittaku Nodias JOOLA Torre All+, DHS Hurricane II #19 Sponge, Galaxy Moon 38 PTTC VP - 2011-12 |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 05/30/2011 at 12:01pm
It is proportional, but negative. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: 4ugustu
Date Posted: 07/23/2017 at 11:51am
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im looking for chinese rubber with high throw too for my backhand. any update?
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Posted By: Skyline
Date Posted: 07/23/2017 at 12:08pm
| gambler outlaw classic is what your looking for! |
Posted By: Fulanodetal
Date Posted: 07/23/2017 at 6:05pm
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I stumbled upon this detailed article about throw angle. Im sure some smarty pants here will find something to argue about. https://thoughtsontabletennis.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/throw-angle/ FdT
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Posted By: 4ugustu
Date Posted: 07/23/2017 at 10:30pm
| Great article. |
Posted By: 4ugustu
Date Posted: 08/17/2017 at 11:55am
| bump |