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Posted By: kolevtt
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Date Posted: 09/04/2011 at 7:04pm
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Posted By: BH-Man
Date Posted: 09/04/2011 at 11:05pm
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If he didn't already read this by lunchtime, I will tell him about your review in person today during my visit to Nexy HQ and ask Pr. Moon to check it out. ------------- Korea Foreign Table Tennis Club Search for us on Facebook: koreaforeignttc |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 10:23am
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Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 10:28am
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Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 10:30am
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 1:21pm
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Here is another review on Sahara http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32676 - http://mytabletennis.net/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=32676 I have a suspicion that Sahara is pretty close to (albeit somewhat faster than) BBC 9-10-9. I have a plan to custom order a version of that blade from Charlie, which will probably be closer to Sahara. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 4:24pm
Good luck with that but, as far as I can remember, these two are quite different. One is an OFF+ with hollow handle, sharp and fast, no much vibes. The other one is OFF-, great control and lots of vibration. They do not behave or feel the same. ------------- Joola Wyzaryz Freeze Vega pro 2.0mm Vega intro 2.0mm Blade collection : https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9" rel="nofollow - https://photos.app.goo.gl/PrgCu5ib5RnhVXTn9 |
JimT wrote:Posted By: JRSDallas
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 5:01pm
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I might want to buy a NEXY blade. Is there an English website that carries them, or how can I contact NEXY directly if I don't know Korean? ------------- Galaxy T1 89 gm FH: HRT Huaruite Wujilong 2 - Dragon 2 II, Max, Black Donic Acuda S2, Max, Red |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/05/2011 at 5:11pm
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Posted By: Nexy
Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 9:25am
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Dear Kolevtt, I finally got in this thread. Nice review, thank you. Actually, Sahara relies on unique material. The materials are not anything you can meet in other blades. All the materials are new. I'm glad to know that you liked it. I've got good feed backs from one german guy and one french guy about Sahara. By the way, Nexy alwasy makes something unique. You will know it, if yo keep watching on my products. I recently released new blade named SPARTACUS. This is also very unique. It's thin, 5.7mm.... and using Kiso Hinoki on the surface. But it has good balance on the whole. And my next blade Calix will be also a big eye catcher. It will take some more time to release Calix, but I'm pretty sure it will be a real something. Ok, I will come again to see how people respond to your writings. Thank you again. ------------- Brand Manager of NEXY |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 10:20am
I am selling my Nexy Lissom - see in FS section. Although if a bit of vibration is a turn-off for you, then you are out of in luck... so far. Then, as a I recall someone was selling Nexy Oscar recently. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 11:18am
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Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 12:25pm
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Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 2:14pm
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 10:12pm
Dear brother Kolev, 1) I suspect that you are under impression that you as a topic starter somehow control what other people can or cannot write here. Of course, there are rules of forum etiquette which we usually try to follow... 2) In one case I was commenting on other blades (some of which are better known to some other forummers) that might be similar to Sahara (which is quite a legitimate line of thought I might add), in my other post I was advising JRSDallas on his question about sale of Nexy blades. The second one was certainly not about Sahara, but that is how many of the forum topics proceed sometimes... 3) Your hint at my forum proclivity is kinda off-topic as well, isn't it? not to mention it might be easily considered as a directly rude personal remark which is something my "off-topic" postings somehow managed to avoid... Anyways, back to Sahara and only Sahara from now on. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/07/2011 at 10:23pm
| Hypersensitive people are usually unconsciously rude, by their very narcissistic nature. |
Posted By: arg0
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 1:09am
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I haven't played with Sahara, but judging from the pictures, it must feel harder than BBC 9-10-9, as the outer plies are thinner and the carbon layer is closer to the outer surface. Moreover, in Sahara wood grains are crossed between plies, i.e. the centre ply has horizontal grain, while in 9-10-9 they run parallel, i.e. the centre ply has vertical grain, so I guess the Sahara is also stiffer.
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Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 4:07am
It is under my dignity to respond a man, who doesn't know what is the meaning of the word honesty. Imago - it will be better to write in other topic here - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43284&PN=1&title=imago-incorrect-and-dishonest-seller - http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=43284&PN=1&title=imago-incorrect-and-dishonest-seller In the future be aware of the topics with materia which is unknown for you. It is not a problem to send you the blade Sahara for testing, but you have to turn back 57 BGN for me right now. Also I am afraid, as you are so clumsy as before when I was teaching you in your garage, the news about the condition for sahara wont be so good after your testing. Argo - I think you are right. Jim - brother, thank you for understanding. |
Posted By: Imago
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 5:12am
Brother, will you stop writing "blethers" in His Majesty Coach of all Coaches topic?  |
Posted By: ejmaster
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 5:13am
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Thank you very much for your review kolevtt. It is interesting and i think your review is very informative and honest. I realize the good aspects about the sahara and i probably get one. To have some fun playing with it as in the times i had a gergely. One of the aspects i like more about nexy is his design. He has the ability to keep the blade weight balance and the momentums in the right range together with a good handle design. So that enforces to buy a sahara to people who pay attention to it. About being sensitive, my advice is to get a thick skin to post in internet forums. In this case i do not think JimT posted to have such overreaction About sensitive meaning narcissism, i am not sure. in most cases have to do with former experiences that lead people to be more sensitive. For instance, if one had a bad divorce, one can be hypersensitive to get married again. -------------  EJ Club. MM T05(fh)/Srvfx(bh);  InfVps,LSW,Viscaria,RwV,TBAlc,PG7,yextsc,yeo. EJmaster wood.
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Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 7:36am
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About the Jim's letter - Sorry, I had a internet connection problem, I wrote "Thank you for sharing the review of fatt" , but after that the lost of connection when I tried to publish my letter made me craizy to write everything again, because I hadn't enough free time and I just missed this sentence. Sorry once again. I think the most important information I have shared yet. Of course, everybody can write everything everywhere. No matter the meaning, you just can wirite what you want. Also you can share what you will be cooking this evening  My own opinion about the fatt's review is that it is very good, I am not agree only that Schlager Carbon is other level, because even the Schalger is 0,2mm may be thicker, it is not faster, but it is more hardly to control, unlike the Sahara. In other case I must be happy I have so good sample. I will be really happy also If Mr.Schlager can test this blade by himself, but while he is a BTY player I think it is impossible. Also I have heard that he is using Primo Carbon with Schlager handles. And Gergely and Primo Carbon are the same blade with different handles and form. About Sardius - I never had this blade. But the turkish coach of their national deaf team and national champion of Turkey Mr.Gultekin Kartoglu told me that Sardius is the best for him. The next tournament when I have meeting with him I will give him my zenith weapon and I will publish his own opinion. I am sure 101% that he will like this blade. About the 1.9mm bryce speed that fatt has offered us - he is right. May be it will be good combination, also for players under 2000, only if they have off+ strategy. I tried Sahara with a new Bryce Fx, but the old version and it was not suitable rubber - heavy and very little spin than the combination between Sahara and Boost TP. As I wrote - I suppose the right choice with Sahara if you want to play with BTY rubbers, just to use 1.9mm for the new glue. In other case the max rubbers just for now are STIGA Boost TP. I will be glad if somebody can compare the new Xiom rubbers with Sahara to the Boost TP/Sahara. Also If somebody has other opinion about appropriate rubbers for this blade, I am open for advices. Also If somebody has something from Nexy for selling here is the right topic  Dear friends, there are p.m. options in your panel. Just use it I am waiting the new Factor rubbers factory tuned by the German brand Imperial soon. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/08/2011 at 4:18pm
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I recall that fatt has Sahara for testing. What happened to the blade after the testing? Is someone testing it now or did it disappear from view? If it is still out there and available for testing, I would really like to give it a quick try. Thanks. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Klaus123
Date Posted: 09/10/2011 at 5:20pm
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Please specify. What is so special about Sahara? This thread looks abit like a one-man-hype.
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Posted By: Nexy
Date Posted: 09/13/2011 at 11:14am
Sahara has been sold out only to a few forummers, even though it was good sales in Korean market. I did not run a promotional event for it, and as a beginnig brand NEXY, it was not easy to push many Saharas onto the market yet. That's the reason you can not expect many people to reply with actual experiences. ------------- Brand Manager of NEXY |
Posted By: Jolan
Date Posted: 09/13/2011 at 12:29pm
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I know that my friend ndc666 considers it as one of his all time favorites, and he has quite a lot of blades...I much prefer the Oscar blade.
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Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/13/2011 at 1:58pm
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Today I tested Sahara with Stiga Calibra on the fh side - sorry, but this rubber is not suitable for this blade if it is with max.thickness. Compared to Boost TP, Calibra is not so faster, may be it is on the same level, but the primary catapult effect is better and the control is missed. But I think the trajectory of the ball is the same as Boost TP. After the comparison I understood also that Boost TP is lighter than Calibra and more controlable. It seem Calibra is heavy rubber. After 1-2 minutes hitting I suspected, Calibra is the new version of Stiga's best rubber - Innova. About Boost TP - it gives me more spin and the speed is same as the speed of Calibra, only the feeling for density is better with Calibra. May be the super fast blade as Sahara is not appropriate for this rubber. It will be better if somebody like Calibra, to try it with some 5.0-6.0mm lighter blade. About the Sahara - it is still the best blade for me in combination with Stiga Boost TP max. |
Posted By: tims89
Date Posted: 09/13/2011 at 5:43pm
| offtop but it seems like this is Nexy Sharara :) |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/13/2011 at 5:53pm
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Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 09/14/2011 at 4:52pm
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Hey Fatt, See attached pictures of the Sahara that I got from you. I think it was the early version that was sent out for the initial round of testing. Looking at the handle it is different from the newer versions like the one that kolevtt has. uploads/20135/Nexy_Sahara_2.jpg - uploads/20135/Nexy_Sahara_2.jpg uploads/20135/nexy_Sahara.jpg - uploads/20135/nexy_Sahara.jpg ------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 09/14/2011 at 5:09pm
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Yes it is hush!! Still yours down the road. Never played with it just a brief bounce when I first got it. Really a fast blade. ------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 09/14/2011 at 7:07pm
Carryboy - thank you for your post! I didn't know there is other older version of this blade. Or may be it is just different type finished. I was tired to repeat my words for our forum's friends who are sure that: Schlager, Primo,Gergely, Sardius and others are "other level blades". For these people, If I had permission, I would punished them all (who are with OFF+ strategy), to read 100-200 times my explanations before to ask me again: What is so special of this blade ?! Of course, there is not self-playing blade. No, there is not, sorry. But there is only one word to explain for the doubters once again - this blade is...  G R E A T
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Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 10/22/2011 at 2:13pm
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Hello again, I tested today Sahara with T05 2.1 on both sides and the result is bad - don't buy this blade for Tenergy. The total weight is around 180 gr, but I feel the racket very heavy, it is because of the heavy T05 rubbers and the big size of the blade's shape. Also this combination is not so fast as I need, and there is not enough control in lot of strokes. Once again - don't buy Sahara for Tenergy, only if you have 1.7 or 1.9 rubbers I think will be more good, but not so fast and light as if you have Stiga Boost rubbers. Tomorrow I will try my blade it with new Tibhar Auris and Xiom Vega rubbers max. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/09/2011 at 9:36pm
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I got Sahara ST as a trade for one of my other blades. I usually play with FL but with some grip tape I don't really mind ST handles as well, although if someone here has an FL in near pristine condition and wants ST - feel free to send me a PM. Here are the some pics http://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/NexySaharaST - https://picasaweb.google.com/JimT2008/NexySaharaST and one of them I will insert here as well  My impressions will follow soon. I intend to play with it in the next few days. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/12/2011 at 10:20pm
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Played with Sahara (Galaxy Moon Pro 39 FH, Palio Blitz BH) for about 10-15 minutes. Speed: faster than Galaxy W-1 (and BBC Ultima too, but it's a custom blade so it's pointless to give comparisons with it). Sometimes it is very noticeable, especially with relatively hard-sponged rubbers as the ones I use. Perhaps I need to put softer rubbers on it and see what happens. Spin: decent, but being a thick blade it's worse in that department as most of 5-6 mm blades. Control: not so great so far, but perhaps I need less bouncy rubbers. As it is, its carbon layers are rather close to the surface and so short game control on BH was not superb (FH with tacky rubber was a different story, it was pretty good) Flex: it is 7.9 mm thick so you can imagine there is not much flex to talk about. Dwell time: noticeably lower than on W-1 and Ultima. Not super-low but still... So far my main impression is that it plays like a better version of Amultart. Next step: Palio Macro Era 47.5 and Palio Blitz - they are completely new and still have some tackiness which will fade soon, but on Sahara that little tackiness might actually help a bit. I will try using it on Monday. After that I will try somewhat softer rubbers (perhaps with some tack too) like Gambler Outlaw GCS, IQUL, Rapid Speed or Gambler Wraith. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/13/2011 at 6:02pm
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Next step was far more satisfying - slightly tacky brand-new Palio tensors played pretty well on Sahara. Crisper, with more precision. I concur with kolevtt that pairing Sahara with Eurotensors (not too soft though) or with Tenergy series rubbers should be a very good combo. But this is really a genuinely OFF combination. I haven't spent a lot of time in passive game but I will try and do that tomorrow. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 11/13/2011 at 8:06pm
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Hi again forumers, JimT - I wrote my explanation from my own side of a : super hyper aggressive and extremely angry counter topspiner :D I am a player, who like to broke the ball on the table and after that to care for the next :D But I like to do this with fine taste, so the control is also important for me :D Now I will put my sense of humour in my night-table and I will be serious - Sahara has the best feeling with light and middle hard/ not so soft rubbers with good catapult effect. I tested the blade with Tibhar Auris max for 5 min and it was great combination, but this is heavy rubber and If I put two peaces the racket will become 200 grams may be. So my advice is again to find tibhar auris 2.0mm for this blade. The spin and speed of this rubber is very good. Probably this is the best Tibhar rubber now. I still think that the Boost TP rubbers max are the great choice for Sahara, if you are hight speed fan or you just need better speed emotion. :) |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/28/2011 at 3:34pm
Got Sahara FL (conic, I should say) - traded ST for this one. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/28/2011 at 3:38pm
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Played with Sahara FL, with brand new (even still a bit tacky) Palio Macro Era 47.5 FH and Palio Blitz on BH. It plays OK but balance is very offensive-minded. As soon as I switched back to my Ultima I realized just how much better it plays in placement game and short control. Still Sahara played very fast and reliably in offense, and if you are a fast offensive player who doesn't spend much time in short-control-placement kind of game you can do much much worse than Sahara. Also if you put some slightly slower rubbers on it (I plan to do that shortly) then it will probably play quite decently in more passive mode as well. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 11/28/2011 at 3:57pm
Great looking and great playing blade ! The dream of every OFF+ player ! |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 11/28/2011 at 4:23pm
It is indeed a lovely blade. I think I will just hang it on the wall... unless of course some crazy collector will offer me ... say... $300. Going once, going once... anyways. I will try it again shortly with slightly slower rubbers. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 11/29/2011 at 11:04am
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Wow JimT, that is so pretty. Let us start the bidding again
------------- Spin Master Carbo Power (Stefan Elsner Custom) Donic Acuda S1 Max Donic Acuda P1 Blue Max |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/01/2011 at 3:38pm
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Played with Sahara FL again - this time with LKT Rapid Speed on FH and Gambler Outlaw GCS on BH. What can I say... I am very "unhappy"  . I was kinda hoping that Sahara would NOT impress me again. Then I would simply return back to my regular setup (BBC Ultima with Palio tensors) and continued on my merry way.But it played VERY WELL. I was pleasantly surprised. Apart from missing some balls due to the fact that Rapid Speed plays quite differently from my Palio ME and Outlaw was playing kinda dead-ish sometimes (I don't know how to explain that), I landed a lot of forehand loops, spin from FH was better than with PME on Ultima (probably due to the fact that RS is a bit tacky and a tad softer than PME 47.5). Also returns from FH were faster and even when I was not fast enough to properly handle the quick flicks or attacks from my opponent (2200 rated attacker), often simply putting Sahara in front of the ball with some incomplete swing still did the job. BH looping required some adjustment but still my BH blocks were good - comparable to Blitz on Ultima. I have changed the BH rubber to GD Karate Hard 2.0 and will try today again. I must say though that my entire practice yesterday was done in mostly OFF manner, although during matches some short game and passive shots were involved. I want to see how Sahara does when I simply push and keep the ball on the table, and just do the allround stuff. Both RS and GO were more sensitive to the incoming spin than Palio tensors - and that is something I do not welcome, as it requires more focus and spin from me. But that is a trade-off - you need to decide what you are willing to sacrifice and what to gain in exchange... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/02/2011 at 11:36am
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My main problem with Sahara - from yesterday's practice - is its handle. It is not just thicker than it should be, but it is also very squarish and it doesn't sit well in your grip. I have a relatively large hand, so it is is uncomfortable for me then I can imagine it would be that for most players. Other than that I cannot complain much - it played very well with LKT Rapid Speed... not so much with Outlaw or with GD Karate Hard 2.0 (that turned out to be too fast), but I have changed that to another RS (this time 2.0 on BH), we'll see how that goes. Or perhaps I should try Karate Soft. However, generally this handle is a bit uncomfortable for me when I play from backhand. If only it were similar to a regular FL handle (like on my Ultima etc.) this would be a great blade. As it is, it is a very good but not great, blade (imho). ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 12/02/2011 at 11:42am
| Looking at the side of the blade, the top ply is rather thin. Does it make the ping carbon sound? I actually don't mind the carbon sound at all, just wondering... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 12/02/2011 at 12:34pm
Yes, it does. It is pretty fast too, I would say low end of OFF+ ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: kolevtt
Date Posted: 12/02/2011 at 9:01pm
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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/25/2012 at 12:35pm
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Sahara still plays great, but since I got myself BBC Ultima PLus (hopefully proper replacement for it but with better handle - for me, individually) I decided to part with it - see my FS Sahara FL topic in For Sale section. So if anyone is impressed by Kolev's or mine praises, you can have it at a discount. ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |