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Topic: GAC GROUP 2012 ITTF World Tour, KRA Korea Open,16
Posted By: TTImpossible
Subject: GAC GROUP 2012 ITTF World Tour, KRA Korea Open,16
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 9:10am
http://ttimpossible.blogspot.fr/p/ittv-steaming.html - Competitons to follow here



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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 10:30am
Many Thanks for opening this thread Thumbs Up
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(ms-r32) TANG Peng - ZHANG Jike [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3_11WjkbA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ3_11WjkbA

(ms-r32) MA Long - KIM Donghyun [Full Match|Short Form]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRqj564flU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvRqj564flU


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Posted By: mayuki24
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:39am
Tang Peng's Backhand rubber do sound so loud Shocked

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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 12:41pm
Does anyone know why Joo Se Hyuk got a technical defeat vs Persson?

I would be very much surprised if he was DQ'd on racket control - I am pretty sure he doesn't boost.


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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 12:57pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Does anyone know why Joo Se Hyuk got a technical defeat vs Persson?

I would be very much surprised if he was DQ'd on racket control - I am pretty sure he doesn't boost.

I think that he is not disqualified, because they will explicitly write that next to result on ittf's web site. Instead of "Disquailified" it says W.O., which means that probably Joo is injured...



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Posted By: roar
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 1:45pm
W.O. for walkover typically means forfeit and not disqualified; but it can be used interchangeably.

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 1:50pm
Do any of you guys have full versions of these matches available to watch anywhere?
Or download?


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 3:14pm
poor mizutani....

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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by Pondus Pondus wrote:

Do any of you guys have full versions of these matches available to watch anywhere?
Or download?


http://sports.cntv.cn/live/cctv5/06/index.shtml - http://sports.cntv.cn/live/cctv5/06/index.shtml for live streaming
Or http://www.ittf.com/ittv/ - http://www.ittf.com/ittv/
CCTV should put on the vod links soon


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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 3:36pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Does anyone know why Joo Se Hyuk got a technical defeat vs Persson?

I would be very much surprised if he was DQ'd on racket control - I am pretty sure he doesn't boost.


Joo has been injured these past weeks, so he probably withdrew. W.O. means walkover, i.e. no-show/default, not disqualification.


Posted By: dingyibvs
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 4:09pm
Some very fun match-ups next!  Persson vs. Fang Bo, Koki Niwa vs. Ma Lin, and another Wang Hao vs. Ryu Seung Min duel.  Can Koki Niwa step it up as he did vs. ML in the Olympics qualifier and defeat what will likely be Ma Lin, Wang Hao, Zhang Jike, and Ma Long in a row to win the championship?  Unlikely...but that'd really be something!

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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 4:23pm
Ishikawa beat Yu Mengyu,  but needed 7 games.  Her next match is against Wu Yang,  very tough match up for her.


Posted By: dingyibvs
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 4:36pm
Kind of odd that Wang Hao is paired with Zhang Jike in doubles.  Are the Chinese preparing to have those two as the doubles team in Olympics?  You'd think that they'd pair Wang Hao with Ma Long since the two have played together much more often.

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 5:24pm
I liked Chan Kazuhiro's 11 straight points in the first game against Kim Donghyun. 

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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 5:45pm
Is it just me or do Ma Long and Zhang Jike (ZJK perhaps even moreso) both seem more mortal than usual? Making more errors, seeming less like inhuman machines and more like people. 

JSH has a leg injury according to ITTF site 


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Posted By: Roger Stillabower
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 8:02pm
Yea I noticed that also, seem like they didn't have the fire they usually play with. Wonder whats going on with them ?

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Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 9:35pm
Originally posted by Roger Stillabower Roger Stillabower wrote:

Yea I noticed that also, seem like they didn't have the fire they usually play with. Wonder whats going on with them ?


Come on, that was the first round. They're not doing more than necessary.

As for the doubles: Wang Hao / Zhang Jike is definitely an option for London, which means that Ma Long would play 2 singles (if necessary). At the China Open next week they will try Wang Hao / Ma Long.

Saturday's action has started already, itTV is showing Ding vs Feng, good match so far.




Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 10:47pm
Ma Long looking bad against Lee Sang Su,  possible upset coming.............


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 10:56pm
Ma Long is in seriuos trouble right now.
Down 2 set to zero.
Almost lost the 3rd set with 10 to 7 behind.
Luckily pulled off, to win the 3rd set.
 
Now 2 to1 behind. (better than 3 to zero behind.)


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 10:58pm
Yeah - Ma Long getting killed!

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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:12pm
Now it is 3 to 1, Ma Long is behind.
 
(Could have been 4 to 0.  Ma Long lucked out on the 3rd set which he was behind at 10 to 7, but pulled off and won.)


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:15pm
He is hitting through Ma Long's underspin so easily....

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Posted By: Sallom89
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:19pm
upset confirmed 

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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:19pm
Ma Long goes down 4-1... let the speculation begin!

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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:20pm
Ma Long looked terrible,  so lethargic, no bounce in his play.


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:21pm
Lee Sang Su beats Ma Long 4 to 1.
 
Lee Sang Su has played very well, way above his normal level.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:36pm
Wang Hao really wants the Gold - the amount of weight he has lost is incredible!

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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/18/2012 at 11:57pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Wang Hao really wants the Gold - the amount of weight he has lost is incredible!
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Wang Hao is tied with Ryu Seung Min at 2:2 at this moment (2 games each).
 
Ryu is playing well.
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Update: Wang Hao beat Ryu Seung Min ------  4:2.
 


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Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 3:38am
oh damn!  they brought that really annoying commentator back!  I thought they got rid of him for goodAngry


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 5:23am
Guo Yan injured during the game against Wu Jiaduo.

15 WU Jiaduo GER
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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 5:27am
And if it wasn't for Ma Long's lost, we gonna have all Chinese Semi finals in both Male and Female.

What will happen is Xu Xin wins Korea open, and then non of the male  Olympians win China open???



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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 5:57am
Originally posted by TTNoobie TTNoobie wrote:

oh damn!  they brought that really annoying commentator back!  I thought they got rid of him for goodAngry
lol, yes, but once in a while he makes some cool comments. 
"He returned that back with interest!" "Why can't she always play like that?" "Most people watching want this over asap" "I'm not biased, I just know who's better." "The world ranking worked in his favor" 
He may not be the most knowledgeable, but his comments are good for the normal joe. Us mytt folk are a little to advanced for his commentary, but still can get a kick out of his creative word play. 
My beef with the commentator, is his pronunciation of names. Yoon Jae Yong was pronounced sloppily "You Jya Yo" like 10 times. At the first I though he was cheering like the chinese do, "Jia Yo"


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 6:08am
Popperlocker,

Yes, what you say makes sense, but are we going to continue keeping the standard low forever?
Why don't they look at a long term plan - 10 years later, that the general public needs something better (and not just MYTT members).

We need to compare 1st world TT to 3rd world TT.
In China, every one can understand Yang Yin's comments on CCTV. Now the questions is how did they get there. What needs to be done? Maybe commentators need training? or Fans need to learn TT more?

I think finding excuses for poor commentators is really short sited. We need to look at long term and the growth between fans and commentators etc, it needs to be parallel or one leading the other.

Simply waking up a different day, but doing the same thing - won't make things better


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Posted By: TTImpossible
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 6:10am



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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 7:01am
(ms-R16) MA Long - LEE Sang Su [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0PpHS5snUg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0PpHS5snUg


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Posted By: chunyenliu
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:01am
Lee Sang Su was in the zone against Ma Long.   Lots of aggressive and full-power shots.  Korean players are always dangerous opponents with fast footwork.

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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:16am
Agree,
Korea always produce players with good footwork.
From 1988, to even today we have witness this.

So that is why I am not suprised to see many generation of Korean players causing trouble or upsets to Chinese players. They also have a good TT system in place, and in a way, they footwork is unique and more stronger than Chinese imo


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:30am
(ms-qf) PERSSON Jorgen - ZHANG Jike [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmhWKwY7YmM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmhWKwY7YmM


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:32am
Thumbs up to Persson, 46 years old, and still managing to get into Quarters finals or Semi Finals (Bejing 2008).



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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:33am
First Guo Yan got injured and didn't complete her game,
now Guo Yue is injured and gave a WO to Liu Shiwen in singles, and doubles to the Korean pair of Lee and Park

What is going on....


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Posted By: TT over Study
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 9:04am
all chinese semi finals! haha


Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 12:23pm
what's tang peng's equipment now? his backhand pips sounds noisier that usual...

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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 12:25pm
(ms-qf) YOON Jaeyoung - XU Xin [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZ5aSnTQZ8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkZ5aSnTQZ8
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(ms-qf) YOON Jaeyoung - XU Xin [Full Match/Chinese]

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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 7:15pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Popperlocker,

Yes, what you say makes sense, but are we going to continue keeping the standard low forever?
Why don't they look at a long term plan - 10 years later, that the general public needs something better (and not just MYTT members).

We need to compare 1st world TT to 3rd world TT.
In China, every one can understand Yang Yin's comments on CCTV. Now the questions is how did they get there. What needs to be done? Maybe commentators need training? or Fans need to learn TT more?

I think finding excuses for poor commentators is really short sited. We need to look at long term and the growth between fans and commentators etc, it needs to be parallel or one leading the other.

Simply waking up a different day, but doing the same thing - won't make things better

I like where you're heading but there is one major problem. The ittf is not as rich as cctv. Also, this guy is hyping up the game like a cheerleader, which is good. However, for the big events, they put some good commentators in the box, like the german coach. I actually think cctv and ittf are both doing it wrong. One is too dead and one is too quirky. The best I've seen is Japanese(Korean?) commentary, which is a pretty girl commentator + coach commentator. You get the best of both worlds. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe Yang Yin is the commentator with that annoying voice. I often turn the sound off when she is commentating. It would be nice if they added a pretty girl next to Yang Yin. 


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:01pm
Lol, well I don't really look at annoying or unannoying, but rather the level of commentating. I do enjoy Yang Ying's commentating, as most of the time she relates to herself as a formal player / world champion and invites CNT team leader or coaches or ex national team members / world champions to comment. The level of commentating (words used) that CCTV provides is really high imo.

Of course there will be different views on what is the best, as this is an international community, with so many cultural back grounds etc, and it is therefore the executives job to find a meet point for all to be happy - with a long term plan in mind.

ITTF has no money? I think that is where ITTF goes wrong. You don't use your own money to do business/make money. You need to use other peoples money to do business. I hope ITTF retires this 14 years president (his same action, different years is not working), and get in a non TT playing executive with experience in sales/marketing, so they can turn the "company" around.


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 8:48pm
(ms-qf) LEE Sang Su - CHAN Kazuhiro [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhLDeitW5A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uhLDeitW5A


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Posted By: ianworz
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 9:29pm
Originally posted by mrdoodzki mrdoodzki wrote:

what's tang peng's equipment now? his backhand pips sounds noisier that usual...

I noticed that as well... sounds like he has some real soft sponged sp on his bh.



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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 9:32pm
(ms-qf) WANG Hao - MA Lin [Full Match|Short Form]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWsUoIGigUw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWsUoIGigUw


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 9:34pm
(ws-qf) HIRANO Sayaka - LI Xiaoxia [Full Match/Chinese]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlZ0pbXRWk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDlZ0pbXRWk


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Posted By: kenneyy88
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 9:58pm
was there any video of Fang Bo?


Posted By: TTNoobie
Date Posted: 05/19/2012 at 10:12pm
Most sports commentary is done by two people,  first you have the straight play by play guy,  he talks the majority of the time.  Next to the play by play guy you have the colour guy,  this person chimes in on occasion with some quirky comment.

The guy doing the Korean open is a colour commentator, little knowledge of the game and non stop quirky comments.  If they team him up with the former English coach commentator he will be tolerable giving his quirky comments once in a while,  but not have him talk non stopDead


Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 12:02am
ITTF knows that John Burgess (the English guy who's commentating in Korea) isn't the best - that's why they hired new people last year and didn't use him at all for the Worlds. I guess they didn't have enough money to send the European commentators to Asia, so they're using Burgess again (he lives in Singapore). They often try to pair him up with an expert, like Jorgen Persson tonight.

Just watch and enjoy, it could be worse (the ETTU for example has terrible commentators).


Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 1:23am
Persson was a pleasure to listen to, lots of charisma that guy. "The young boy crying is a Zhang Ji Ke fan, trying to distract Wang Hao. Oh look it worked" LOLOLOLOLOLO
Did you guys see Xu Xin play? Legendary performance against Kazuhiro. 


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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 1:59am
Just got to check the tournament after two rounds and OMG this tournament is CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

persson over fang bo
Lee sang su over ma long

then to see my man Chan Kazuhiro into the Semis!

this is the best tournament I think I've seen in a long time! not only that, but the one match i watched of Kazu vs Sang Su was a level of intensity i haven't seen since the speedglue days. 

this is great. I love table tennis. 


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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 5:57am
Well done ZJK!! Clap

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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 7:40am
Zhang Jike-Wang Hao:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz-F1Je8vqM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz-F1Je8vqM


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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 8:27am
The Zhang Jike - Xu Xin final is truly amazing! Reminds me of the Australian Open Djokovic-Nadal final... there was one shot where Zhang Jike did an inside-out FH loop, with the ball way below the table and on the right side of the table! It's like the shot Wang Liqin did to Timo Boll in the 2006 WTTTC! :O :O :O 

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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 8:31am
Xu Xin-Chan Kazuhiro:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-AklJjnt_U&feature=youtu.be - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-AklJjnt_U&feature=youtu.be


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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 11:14am
Zhang Jike looked unmotivated to me. He looked bored, and lack of footwork and offensive shots, and still he managed to win...

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Posted By: Wilbeerthoven
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 11:29am
You guys know that Chan Kazuhiro has also overcame Ma Long? In 2010 i think, an impressive 3-0 victory full of impossible reflex shots close to the table!

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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by kenneyy88 kenneyy88 wrote:

was there any video of Fang Bo?

Sorry, No!


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 12:47pm
Why is it such a big thing with Persson beating Fang Bo?

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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 12:53pm
# Many Thanks to TTPoster!!!!

Men's Final
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvOCc5LcBk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhvOCc5LcBk


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Men's Doubles Final
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Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 2:44pm
Chan Kazuhiro really reminds me of Ma Long. Especially his FH and at some times BH as well O_O 

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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 2:54pm
Any chance of getting the entire Men's Final video up on YouTube???
Pretty please... with sugar on top. Big smile


Posted By: Carbon TT
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 3:55pm
Janus, will you be uploading the women's final onto YouTube?  Dare I say, it was one of the best women's matches I have seen in a very long time.  Liu Shiwen seems to have greatly improved in recent times.

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Posted By: jinlai
Date Posted: 05/20/2012 at 8:24pm
Janus, appreciate you can load the full match chinese of the Men's and Women's final. Thank you for your continued contribution to this forum.


Posted By: pingpongpaddy
Date Posted: 05/21/2012 at 10:03am
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:


First Guo Yan got injured and didn't complete her game,now Guo Yue is injured and gave a WO to Liu Shiwen in singles, and doubles to the Korean pair of Lee and ParkWhat is going on....



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I suspect the top nations have been putting their players through some heavy training in advance of london 2012, but dont worry the training will taper off, and there is time for them to recover before the big day!

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Posted By: Vladovich
Date Posted: 05/21/2012 at 11:30am
Guo Yue will be injured and Liu Shiwen will replace her :)

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Posted By: Boro
Date Posted: 05/21/2012 at 11:49am
2012 World Tour Korea Open - Award Ceremony Table Tennis



Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/21/2012 at 8:08pm
Liu Shiwen beat Ding Ning in this korea Open.
They played against each other in the past.
What was their records of win / loss against each other?
 
Sorry to have asked this question, it will be too time-consuming to find out.
Please just ignore this post.  Or, forum moderator can delete it.
 
Thanks.


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Posted By: TT over Study
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 1:34am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Liu Shiwen beat Ding Ning in this korea Open.
They played against each other in the past.
What was their records of win / loss against each other?
 
Sorry to have asked this question, it will be too time-consuming to find out.
Please just ignore this post.  Or, forum moderator can delete it.
 
Thanks.
 
my impression is until a couple years ago, liu would win more often.. after that ding has been winning more.. overall maybe ding 60-40, haha just guessing


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 8:54am
my impression is until a couple years ago, liu would win more often.. after that ding has been winning more.. overall maybe ding 60-40, haha just guessing.
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Well, if I have to take a guess, I will also guess that Ding won more.
I agree with you on that.
 
Too time consuming to dig out all the records.


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Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 10:30am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

my impression is until a couple years ago, liu would win more often.. after that ding has been winning more.. overall maybe ding 60-40, haha just guessing.
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Well, if I have to take a guess, I will also guess that Ding won more.
I agree with you on that.
 
Too time consuming to dig out all the records.


nah... i think liu shiwen's record against ding ning is overwhelmingly in favor of liu shiwen. Her quick attacks always confounds Ding Ning's defence... However, Ding Ning won in the most important occasion - the WTTC 2011, which made all the difference to her career....


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Posted By: PongPong
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 11:19am
According to the below link, Liu is 3 to 2 in the finals against Ding, not that much advantage Liu is said to have. The problem with Liu is she lost more to foreign players. This is a big no-no to any Chinese national player no matter how many times she/he can beat the best team mate. 
 
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-05-21/12466070070.shtml - http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2012-05-21/12466070070.shtml


Posted By: PongPong
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 11:27am
"Guo Yue will be injured and Liu Shiwen will replace her :)"
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No chance at all. The one who plays the team event cannot be replaced according to the ITTF rule for Olympic games. That's why Guo Yue withidrew from the the open to avoid any possible injury (or worsen her existing injury).


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 11:36am
(ms-f) XU Xin - ZHANG Jike [Full match/Chinese]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmteHlxP8WI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmteHlxP8WI

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(ws-f) DING Ning - LIU Shiwen [sets: half-3rd, 4th, 5th/Chinese]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrIEzHQLxQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCrIEzHQLxQ


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 12:15pm
# PLAYLIST of KRA-Matches ::
  • http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL92FEA6829AD2E185 - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL92FEA6829AD2E185


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Posted By: Pondus
Date Posted: 05/22/2012 at 12:15pm
You're the MAN, Janus Smile
Thank you so much.

Do you have anywhere specific that you keep all your full length matches (available to download)?


Posted By: bozbrisvegas
Date Posted: 07/21/2012 at 9:35pm
Here is a higher quality version I was at first experimenting to see if I could track the ball in various ways to make it easier to see.  Gave up after the first few points.  


It's just the first game 11:9 in HD.  



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