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Topic: Tibhar 5Q review
Posted By: yogi_bear
Subject: Tibhar 5Q review
Date Posted: 06/03/2012 at 9:34pm
happy to receive the tibhar 5Q from Tibhar Germany. I was excited about the 5Q since its supposedly spinnier than its 1Q brother. The rubber comes in a black and red shiny packaging is a $52 usd rubber that is in great quality.


specs:
Rubbers: red and black 5Q max
Uncut weight: approx 67-68 grams
Dimensions: 172x175mm
Hardness: the packaging says its medium but i would rate it as closer to being medium hard. its softer than its 1Q brother by 2-3 degrees approx. 
Glue: elmer's rubber cement
Blades used: Tibhar Sigma Sensitec, Texo C7 and Texo Off


The red rubber looks different from 1Q because the 5Q has a deeper color in red unlike 1Q which has a lighter red color similar that of the S1 turbo and Joola Rhyzm.


Strengths:

Speed - very fast. its in the same level of speed with the Rakza 7, Acuda S1 (not the turbo) and the Tibhar Aurus. on soft and hard drives the rubber is  bouncy.

Spin - on serving it is spinner than the 1Q. The rubber grips the ball better. Its not as bouncy as the 1Q so you can spin better with it. On pushing I would rate it as excellent as it gives a low spinny pushes. On loops this rubber is outstanding. The 1Q fell short for my liking because it was more of a counter topspin rubber or a hitting rubber. The 5Q has a more profound arc than the 1Q and the ball buries itself deeper into the sponge than other medium hard rubbers creating a more potential for spin. If other people have found rakza 7 easy to loop with then the 5q is much easier by a small margin. The 5Q is better at close to the table to mid distance looping only. On the backhand, being a major backhand player, the 5Q is excellent on bh looping. Control was easyand doing a late contact on the ball produces a high arc spinny ball. 

Counter topspin - not as fast as the 1Q is on countering but still offers a lot of speed with more spin.


Average performance:

Blocking - blocking is average with this rubber but there are other better blocking rubbers. 

Smashing - as what I have said this is more of a looping rubber. it seems even with its hard sponge the rubber is average to above average in terms of smashing. also every time i smash with it, the ball sounds like a cracked ball being hit by the racket. 

Cons:

Weight - some players would find the weight at 67-68 grams a bit heavy 

Distance - players who stay away from the table would need to swing harder. this is a close to the table to mid distance rubber.

Conclusion:

This is an A+ grade looping rubber in the level of Adidas P7, Andro Hexer HD and Rakza 7 rubbers. It is also a good and cheaper alternative to Tenergy rubbers. No it doesn't feel like a T05 but the speed and spin it produces are very close to it. I would recommend this to players who wanted a spinny but faster rubber on their forehands. Also recommended to players who stay close to the table and attacking mostly using 3rd ball attacks as this rubber is excellent in both serving and spinning. Medium stiff blades are recommended for maintaining enough speed and stiffer blades are better for this rubber if you are an all out attacker



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Replies:
Posted By: sampa
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 12:42am
Hi , yogi_bear
5Q look same as ADIDAS TENZONE SF ?


Posted By: mikepong
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 1:28am
sir how is it compared to aurus?

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Posted By: haggisv
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 2:12am
Great review and picture yogi!Clap

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 2:19am
Originally posted by sampa sampa wrote:

Hi , yogi_bear
5Q look same as ADIDAS TENZONE SF ?

looks almost the same but different in feel and slower. also the 5q is harder


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 2:20am
Originally posted by mikepong mikepong wrote:

sir how is it compared to aurus?

aurus is faster 5q is spinnier and has a higher arc

haggisv, my friend lend me his digital cam with a very good macro mode. thanks


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Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 5:35am


Is 5q better in active blocking rather than passive blocking?

How hard would this rubber be on the DHS scale?

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 9:39am
Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:



Is 5q better in active blocking rather than passive blocking?

How hard would this rubber be on the DHS scale?

more like 37-38 degrees. i have tried it again today with a yinhe t-10 blade balsa carbon and its really good. i think its between adidas tenzone and tenzone sf in sponge hardness but with the same amount of spin the tenzone can produce. passive blocking are average to above average


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Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 10:05am

Would 5Q be suited more as a forehand rubber than a backhand rubber on a stiff, hard blade?

Would it be too fast in 2.1mm?




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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 10:14am
not too fast for me. the arc compensates for its speed. i think its good for both sides

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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 10:32am
Hi Yogi Bear,

Please :) do not forget about Texo blade reviews.



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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 10:35am
igzo, no problem. i will post one tomorrow, the texo off is still under testing. the C7 is the one that will be posted tomorrow

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Posted By: SmackDAT
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 1:20pm
What do you personally think is better on the backhand, Rakza 9 2.0 or 5q 2.1?

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Posted By: igszoctan
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

igzo, no problem. i will post one tomorrow, the texo off is still under testing. the C7 is the one that will be posted tomorrow

"igzo"  LOL I like that :)


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by SmackDAT SmackDAT wrote:

What do you personally think is better on the backhand, Rakza 9 2.0 or 5q 2.1?

if my distance of playing is far from the table i would choose rakza 9, if its mid distance to close to the table 5Q owns the rakza 9 because of its spin. i really like how it bites the ball when you graze it


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Posted By: IanMcg
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 8:55pm
Any review for the Eagle Carbon yet Yogi?


Posted By: Antiq
Date Posted: 06/04/2012 at 9:31pm

Any good place online to get 5Q max and 2.0/1.9?



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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 2:21am
Yogi, I love your reviews but u have to use water based glue for the reviews. Forget about the rules - RC just changes the characteristics of the rubber. RC and water based glue never feel quite the same even after a week to me. 

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 5:50am
Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Yogi, I love your reviews but u have to use water based glue for the reviews. Forget about the rules - RC just changes the characteristics of the rubber. RC and water based glue never feel quite the same even after a week to me. 

nah it doesnt affect much and i never reglue my rubbers. i just hate the WBG. also there is very lilttle amount of expansion in my rubbers. for me elmer's rubber cement is still a good alternative


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Posted By: Skynums
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 7:30am
I switched to elmer's rc and I heard the loud sound like a cracked ball you mentioned the first time I used my racket. Guess it's the elmers causing it.


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 7:55am
after 3 days of using it its still the same

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Posted By: Skynums
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 9:02am
As long as you are using the elmer's it's still the same.


Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 06/05/2012 at 11:35pm
Hi Yogi, I am looking for an upgrade to Aurus Soft. How would you compare 5Q and Aurus Soft???? 

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 5:36am
Originally posted by Carryboy Carryboy wrote:

Hi Yogi, I am looking for an upgrade to Aurus Soft. How would you compare 5Q and Aurus Soft???? 

these 2 are in different leagues. the 5Q that im using now is kinda faster the first day i was using it. its spinnier than the aurus soft too with a higher angle


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Posted By: Chopper88
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 2:43pm
Hi Yogi, now i how it plays but how does it sound? Smile


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/06/2012 at 8:19pm
it has a funny loud sound. when you hit the ball its like playing a cracked ball, that's how it sounds like. weird thing, when i was using it in a yinhe t10 balsa carbon blade it was very controllable but when i placed it in a 7 ply all wood blade it was too bouncy (7 ply like clippers)

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Posted By: Chopper88
Date Posted: 06/07/2012 at 1:25pm
thanks


Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 1:11am
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

happy to receive the tibhar 5Q from Tibhar Germany. I was excited about the 5Q since its supposedly spinnier than its 1Q brother. The rubber comes in a black and red shiny packaging is a $52 usd rubber that is in great quality.


specs:
Rubbers: red and black 5Q max
Uncut weight: approx 67-68 grams
Dimensions: 172x175mm
Hardness: the packaging says its medium but i would rate it as closer to being medium hard. its softer than its 1Q brother by 2-3 degrees approx. 
Glue: elmer's rubber cement
Blades used: Tibhar Sigma Sensitec, Texo C7 and Texo Off


The red rubber looks different from 1Q because the 5Q has a deeper color in red unlike 1Q which has a lighter red color similar that of the S1 turbo and Joola Rhyzm.


Strengths:

Speed - very fast. its in the same level of speed with the Rakza 7, Acuda S1 (not the turbo) and the Tibhar Aurus. on soft and hard drives the rubber is  bouncy.

Spin - on serving it is spinner than the 1Q. The rubber grips the ball better. Its not as bouncy as the 1Q so you can spin better with it. On pushing I would rate it as excellent as it gives a low spinny pushes. On loops this rubber is outstanding. The 1Q fell short for my liking because it was more of a counter topspin rubber or a hitting rubber. The 5Q has a more profound arc than the 1Q and the ball buries itself deeper into the sponge than other medium hard rubbers creating a more potential for spin. If other people have found rakza 7 easy to loop with then the 5q is much easier by a small margin. The 5Q is better at close to the table to mid distance looping only. On the backhand, being a major backhand player, the 5Q is excellent on bh looping. Control was easyand doing a late contact on the ball produces a high arc spinny ball. 

Counter topspin - not as fast as the 1Q is on countering but still offers a lot of speed with more spin.


Average performance:

Blocking - blocking is average with this rubber but there are other better blocking rubbers. 

Smashing - as what I have said this is more of a looping rubber. it seems even with its hard sponge the rubber is average to above average in terms of smashing. also every time i smash with it, the ball sounds like a cracked ball being hit by the racket. 

Cons:

Weight - some players would find the weight at 67-68 grams a bit heavy 

Distance - players who stay away from the table would need to swing harder. this is a close to the table to mid distance rubber.

Conclusion:

This is an A+ grade looping rubber in the level of Adidas P7, Andro Hexer HD and Rakza 7 rubbers. It is also a good and cheaper alternative to Tenergy rubbers. No it doesn't feel like a T05 but the speed and spin it produces are very close to it. I would recommend this to players who wanted a spinny but faster rubber on their forehands. Also recommended to players who stay close to the table and attacking mostly using 3rd ball attacks as this rubber is excellent in both serving and spinning. Medium stiff blades are recommended for maintaining enough speed and stiffer blades are better for this rubber if you are an all out attacker

How sensitive is it to the incoming spin ?



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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 5:39am
it has less sensitivity to spin compared to tenergy 05

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Posted By: icontek
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 7:27am
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

Originally posted by assiduous assiduous wrote:

Yogi, I love your reviews but u have to use water based glue for the reviews. Forget about the rules - RC just changes the characteristics of the rubber. RC and water based glue never feel quite the same even after a week to me. 

nah it doesnt affect much and i never reglue my rubbers. i just hate the WBG. also there is very lilttle amount of expansion in my rubbers. for me elmer's rubber cement is still a good alternative


The current gen ESN rubbers like Acuda and Coppa play different with RC than with WBG.

AcudaDave pointed this out to me and then I tested it.

For example Acuda S3 with WBG has noticeably more spin and less speed using Dian Chi WBG compared to when I used Elmers.

I think the solvents in RC react with whatever ESN is using to tune these rubbers.

The reason I say "tune" is because these sponges shrink and reverse dome when switching blades (whether you use RC or WBG).



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Posted By: riker71
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 8:11am
I have stuck the same sheet of Omega IV pro 2-3 times onto blades with Klebstoff Imperial (regular voc glue not speed glue), no shrinkage or problems there. I always use this glue a water based glue is too much hassle.

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 10:14am
sorry but i wont use wbg unless its really needed. im fine with elmer's rc and if there's any difference its not that much since i dont reglue anyway

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/08/2012 at 10:17am
and i also want to prove to some people who blame the glue for their rubber's forming bubbles after 3-5 days of use because they didnt use wbg. also the shrinking of the rubber can be minimized if you dont glue your rubber immediately and if you dont press your rollers too much on the rubber when you attach it

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/09/2012 at 10:34am
not suitable for ebenholz 7, tried it today and the rubber feels really hard on it. tried it on a clipper hrt clone and it suits just fine

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 06/16/2012 at 9:14am
after 2 weeks of using this rubber i can say its a goo alternative to T05. what i like about it is that its not too fast like the tenzone but offers the same spin. it seems very durable and would last for about 6 months to average players. 
this would be best for medium hard blades or blades that are not too stiff. works well with blades having koto, limba ad cypress outer plies


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/09/2012 at 8:33am
the 5Q works well with the rosewood XO. my 5Q now is almost a month old still in good 85% condition with no chips or bubbles formed

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Posted By: kuifje
Date Posted: 07/09/2012 at 9:25am
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

after 2 weeks of using this rubber i can say its a goo alternative to T05. what i like about it is that its not too fast like the tenzone but offers the same spin. it seems very durable and would last for about 6 months to average players. 
this would be best for medium hard blades or blades that are not too stiff. works well with blades having koto, limba ad cypress outer plies

You think it would not work well with softer flexible blades?


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/10/2012 at 8:35pm
for people who wants control the softer flexible blades would work and maybe make them do slow loops better but the medium stiff blades bring out the best for the 5Q

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Posted By: kuifje
Date Posted: 07/11/2012 at 8:52am
So perhaps for a flexible ALL+ blade 1Q would work better? That's harder isn't it?


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/11/2012 at 10:02am
ALL+ is fine, i suggest you try off- blades.. they have the flex yet also offers control and speed

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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 07/12/2012 at 9:47pm
how is 5Q compare to Sigma Pro...? in spin, speed , control, sponge hardness....
thanks...

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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 07/12/2012 at 9:49pm
the weight seems similar to Tenzone SF...... my SF is 68-69g..

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/12/2012 at 10:00pm
havent tried the sigma pro

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Posted By: bagung
Date Posted: 07/12/2012 at 10:13pm
thanks...

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Posted By: One Table Tennis
Date Posted: 07/16/2012 at 9:41am
Using 5Q on my Tibhar H 3 9 (which I'm using from 15 days or so). Very happy with the 5Q on the backhand. In addition to being a great rubber for backhand (and near to table play), it gives a tremendous underspin that is very deceptive.

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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/16/2012 at 8:56pm
Originally posted by One Table Tennis One Table Tennis wrote:

Using 5Q on my Tibhar H 3 9 (which I'm using from 15 days or so). Very happy with the 5Q on the backhand. In addition to being a great rubber for backhand (and near to table play), it gives a tremendous underspin that is very deceptive.

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nice! i agree with your findings because the 5Q is really good in doing underspin serves. its like you don't need to do a lot of movements to produce heavy under spin serves making people think that you are serving a no spin serve


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Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 09/11/2012 at 7:58am
Hi Yogi,

Can you compare this rubber to Tibhar Genius? Now I'm using the genius but would like a bit more speed. Also how about durability? Genius not that great. I saw on the package, the hardness is softer by 2.5 degree of genius (47.5). 

Also how about the hardness compare to rakza 7?


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/11/2012 at 9:15am
rakza 7 and genius regular are both harder than the 5Q. the 5Q is faster than both rubbers though. I say when attacking the spin of the 5Q is amazing. on pushes or serves i think its equal to genius

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Posted By: pak abu
Date Posted: 09/11/2012 at 9:21am
Thanks.. need to make up my mind again. As I feel the speed of rakza 7 is right for me. But the spin of 5Q attract me to it..Smile..

Do you thing it will feel mushy on 1ply hinoki?


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Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/12/2012 at 7:55am
the 5Q is not mushy. its a medium rubber. its fast on a 1 ply hinoki

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Posted By: tg3
Date Posted: 09/12/2012 at 8:19am
Originally posted by yogi_bear yogi_bear wrote:

the 5Q is not mushy. its a medium rubber. its fast on a 1 ply hinoki

is 5Q harder or softer than tenergy 64?



Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 09/12/2012 at 9:49am
5Q is a lil firmer

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Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 09/12/2012 at 10:43am
5q is softer than rak7 and genius but hardee than t64? Not possible

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Posted By: Carryboy
Date Posted: 09/12/2012 at 12:47pm
That depends on what blade you playing it on.

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Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 10/07/2012 at 1:55am
at last I've played with 5Q and its not what I expected.

They say its the softest rubber of the Q family. So I expected a mid soft rubber like aurus soft, rakza7 soft, tenergy 05 fx etc... But its hard. Lets say mid hard like t64. And its really heavy. Its much much heavier than tenergy 05 fx.

So:
Speed: Its a fast and bouncy rubber like tenergy. But feeling is between tenzone and acuda series.  And red sheet of 5Q looks like very much tenzone sf and acuda series. Speed is just a bit slower than tenzone and acuda s1 turbo. but still its a fast one.

Spin: Its very very spinny( like tenergy) But somewhat its not that sensitive to incoming spin. Lots of people would like this but I dont. I'm a spin based player and I like to use my opponents spin to create speed and rotation. With 5Q you have to play a bit more active...

Throw: Its between t05 and t64. But closer to the t64. So throw angle is a bit flat. Blocking and smashing is much better than t05.  Its just not so sensitive to the incoming spin so sometimes if you're a bit lazy than your topspins goes in to the net.

Other stuff: Its a heavy rubber.
Loud when you block+smash but its not soft.

Its much heavier, faster and harder than I expected so I got some issues with the control department.


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Posted By: neon
Date Posted: 10/07/2012 at 6:50am

Hello friends,

wow and this is for 5q. But out there has 1q. It must be heavier and faster. I'm not finish Smile.

Out there has and 1qxd ... beast ... heavier and faster. My 1qxd, 2.1 weigh 49 grams cut to schlager carbon. 5q must weigh 45 grams cut for butterflay head size 157/150. Good luck.



Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 2:05am
Does 5Q suit nittaku violin 5 ply ? 
I intend to substitute genius regular to 5Q (1.9) on my BH and my strength is my open loops , drives and BH punch , does those stroke this rubber ?


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Posted By: Antiq
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 2:33am
Recently, had a short hit with the following rubbers, alternating them when doing a FH to FH and BH to BH hit.... 5Q, P5, Rakza 7 Soft, Rasant. Thus would like to just share my opinion..
 
Spin on serve (Backspin) : All spinny. Rasant feel a little spinnier...not obvious. My opponent and myself can't really tell the significant differences between the rest. 
Speed : Rasant > 5Q, P5 > R7 Soft
Throw (high to low): 5Q/P5, R7 Soft, Rasant
 
Rasant always go off the table or hit the baseline when using the same stroke..
I've played with T05 and like it very much. 5Q and P5 feel and play like T05.
 
All rubbers seems to work well for FH except that Rasant is more suitable for mid distance game. All except Rasant is recommended for BH, but thinner sponge, e.g. 1.9 or 2mm.
 
Amount them, I like P5 most for both FH and BH : ) followed by 5Q.
 
 
 


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Posted By: right2niru
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 3:17am
Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Does 5Q suit nittaku violin 5 ply ? 
I intend to substitute genius regular to 5Q (1.9) on my BH and my strength is my open loops , drives and BH punch , does those stroke this rubber ?
@yogi_bear / peter79/debraj : any expert views ? 


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ZJK SZLC |5Q+


Posted By: One Table Tennis
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 6:18am
Overall, a good rubber. Very heavy underspin especially with a new rubber. It is best for near to mid table play. Good for punching blocks, not the very best for normal blocks. Very good for strong counter hitting. 

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Rubbers - Rakza 7 Soft, Tibhar 5Q


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 6:47am
Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Does 5Q suit nittaku violin 5 ply ? 
I intend to substitute genius regular to 5Q (1.9) on my BH and my strength is my open loops , drives and BH punch , does those stroke this rubber ?
@yogi_bear / peter79/debraj : any expert views ? 

yes, the violin is ok wth 5Q though 1.9mm seems a bit slow for me


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Posted By: debraj
Date Posted: 10/24/2012 at 7:03am
Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Originally posted by right2niru right2niru wrote:

Does 5Q suit nittaku violin 5 ply ? 
I intend to substitute genius regular to 5Q (1.9) on my BH and my strength is my open loops , drives and BH punch , does those stroke this rubber ?
@yogi_bear / peter79/debraj : any expert views ? 

ha ha.. i'm no expert ...Wacko !!.. and didn't play 5Q. 

and too obsessed with 1q-xd right now, to think of anything else. 


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Posted By: Knuckle Ball
Date Posted: 11/30/2013 at 7:10pm
5Q on a Tibhar WhiteSword blade is a loopers dream!
Seems to be made for each other. Very good control, wicked spin on serves and pushes. Good on passive and active blocks. Very nice in opening loops, specially against underspin,  like hot knife on  butter he he. The setup makes you think you can loop or counter loop anything! Big smile.
 
Speed is not the main asset of this setup, the 7 ply Adidas Challenge Speed with 1Q is faster, still 5Q has lots of gears and ample speed.
 
Precision and lots of spin makes this setup simply awesome. Confidence level is very high on my offensive strokes ( had to be when everything you throw seems to land on the table).
 
How does 5Q and 1Q compare with other rubbers I have tried, Calibras, Acudas, Baracudas, Tenergys, Bryce, Traction, H3. . . . . . . hands down tops them all.
or maybe I'm just high on my 5Q trip.
Just my thoughts for whatever its worth.
 
(I definitely need to learn how to post pics for my 5Q & White Sword setup)


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FH: Dignics 05 Black
BH: Moristo SP Red


Posted By: Knuckle Ball
Date Posted: 12/13/2013 at 2:24am
Finally learned how to upload my blade

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Blade: Rosewood NCT V
FH: Dignics 05 Black
BH: Moristo SP Red


Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 12/13/2013 at 2:30am
i prefer 5q over the mx-p. i find it easier to useif (window.EBMessageReceived) {window.EBMessageReceived(decodeURIComponent('undefined'),decodeURIComponent('undefined'));}

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Posted By: manraid
Date Posted: 07/26/2015 at 9:01pm
 can u compare mx-p and 5q  as regard spin and durability?

yogi bear


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BH Super 999t 2.2mm Red




Posted By: yogi_bear
Date Posted: 07/26/2015 at 10:10pm
MX-P lasts a bit longer. IN terms of spin, for slow looping i think 5Q is spinnier. For fast and power attacks the mx-p is much better

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ITTF Level 1 Coaching Course Conductor, ITTF Level 1 Coach



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