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Topic: 2012 ITTF World Tour Koltsovo Russia Open (VIDEOS)
Posted By: janus700
Subject: 2012 ITTF World Tour Koltsovo Russia Open (VIDEOS)
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 8:24am
2012 Koltsovo Russia Open (ms-R32) XU Xin - VLASOV Grigory [Full/Short Form]

Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1oqfBUFAeM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1oqfBUFAeM


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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 10:28am
Men QF

 1    XU Xin CHN    
 19:45 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 2    YAN An CHN    
 3    FANG Bo CHN    
 19:45 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 4    SKACHKOV Kirill RUS    
 5    KARAKASEVIC Aleksandar SRB    
 19:00 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 6    PAYKOV Mikhail RUS    
 7    MURAMATSU Yuto JPN    
 19:00 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 8    ZHOU Yu CHN    



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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 10:28am
Women QF

 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  



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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 10:32am
In all fairness, this is CNT junior team, and a pity that "rest of the worlds" best is not here.

I would love to see CNT junior team VS rest of the world. It is like seeing a young Ma Lin vs the world champ JO Waldner, one has youth, the other has experience.


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 11:51am
More videos (from ttonmediothek)

Men

Ilya Shamin vs Hou Yingchao
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5umga-kPEA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5umga-kPEA

Asuka Sakai vs Sergey Elizarov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfcDLhaEHfs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfcDLhaEHfs

Evgeny Regentov vs Akifumi Hamakawa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLpTRnax370 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLpTRnax370

Maxim Efroykin vs Kirill Schetinkin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZJfcUDmec - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZJfcUDmec

Xu Xin vs Aleksey Liventsov
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DyDPyCjUy8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DyDPyCjUy8

Women

Sachie Shigemoto vs Polina Mikhailova
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OJFgVIOMc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-OJFgVIOMc

Yana Noskova vs Akiko Matsuura
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ilAqPNLQI0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ilAqPNLQI0

Anna Blazhko vs Minami Doi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6v343XTxcw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6v343XTxcw


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 12:54pm
Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.

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Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 1:34pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.


Yes, but that is his own fault. It is ridiculous that the player of his level cannot advance out of the qualification group at such a low-level ProTour tournament.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 2:20pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:


Yes, but that is his own fault. It is ridiculous that the player of his level cannot advance out of the qualification group at such a low-level ProTour tournament.
 
Agreed, but unfortunately, his loss isn't posted so we can only speculate as to what happened.  He destroyed his opponent in the match he won.


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Posted By: thepongcast
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.

Same here.  I guess there's a reason we don't see him play many international events.


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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 2:51pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Women QF

 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  

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Let's say the match time is:  17:30 --- 15/9/2012 (The very first one, Feng Yalan.)
Question:  What will be the Date and Time, in terms of US east coast's time?
 
Thanks in advance.


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 3:14pm
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Women QF

 1    FENG Yalan CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 2    NOSKOVA Yana RUS    
 3    WEN Jia CHN    
 17:30 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 4    CHEN Meng CHN    
 5    ZHU Yuling CHN    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 2   -: --- ---
   
 6    CHANG Chenchen CHN    
 7    SILBEREISEN Kristin GER    
 18:15 - 15/9/2012   Table 1   -: --- ---
   
 8    PAVLOVICH Viktoria BLR  

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Let's say the match time is:  17:30 --- 15/9/2012 (The very first one, Feng Yalan.)
Question:  What will be the Date and Time, in terms of US east coast's time?
 
Thanks in advance.


730AM. They are 10 hours ahead of EST


Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 3:56pm
(ms-R16) FANG Bo - VANG Bora [Full Match|Short Form]
Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxrkGmOUwnk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxrkGmOUwnk


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Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 4:34pm
 
Originally posted by thepongcast thepongcast wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Kinda sad that Hou Yingchao couldn't get out of the qualifiers - would have liked to see more of his matches.
 

Same here.  I guess there's a reason we don't see him play many international events.

This might be the reason. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UbuIwSXAn7U#t=555s - http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UbuIwSXAn7U#t=555s Deciding championship match in the 2010 Chinese Super League. He had 4 match points against Joo Se Hyuk, but Joo won 6 points in a row, + the next set, and consequently the match and championship for his team. 



Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 5:16pm
Haven't seen this player, Zhou Yu, played in the international arena before.
Came out of nowhere, Zhou Yu beat the #2 seed (WR #37) Gacina Andrej  4 -- 0.
 
So, there are some unknown Chinese players not in the ITTF world top 100 but their playing skill is right up there.  Oh, btw, just found out that Zhou Yu is very young.


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 7:05pm
Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 7:07pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 7:14pm
Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.


Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 7:48pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Originally posted by JimT JimT wrote:

Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:

Zhou Yu is one of the future talent of China.
Have been in CNT B team for some time and appearing more in the A team line up - ie Olympic close trainings as practice partners.

These are the future of CNT - so for the ones that think Ma Long and ZJK will last forever or win world titles for the next 8 years, please reconsider, it is not as easy as after these groups of Zhou Yu, Fang Bo, Yang An, Shang Kun etc, in 2 years you will have another "list" of possible champions


I think he was in the semi-finals of the last Junior World Champs.


Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....

i wonder where is yin han he was top cadet fomer number 1 and he defeated koki several times he must be in a long term training program, i ve seen many pics of him in the chinese magazine must be  very talented


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 8:41pm
Tomorrow, Muramatsu Yuto will play Zhou Yu.  Should be an interesting match.
 
Muramatsu Yuto: The impressive young Japanese defensive player.
Zhou Yu:  The young Chinese player (an attacker) who just beat #2 seed (4:0).
 
(What is Muramatsu's backhand rubber, LP?  He gives attackers lots of headache.)
 
Hard to predict who is going to win.


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/14/2012 at 11:50pm
Originally posted by ZApenholder ZApenholder wrote:


Yeah, but somehow the best Chinese players either don't go to Junior events or don't perform well at they youth, tend to peak (males) after 20 yrs old to 22yrs old or so. Its like a super high jump from junior to mens in a matter of a few years. Some how the "Euro" juniors are not jumping that easily - I wonder why is the case.....


I think you have it backwards.  What really happens is that the youngsters are good, but the national team is full, so they wait their turn.  Most of them play the junior events if they do when they are much younger than the competition.  Koki Niwa could likely be a has-been if he was on the Chinese national team.


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 12:46am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Tomorrow, Muramatsu Yuto will play Zhou Yu.  Should be an interesting match.
 
Muramatsu Yuto: The impressive young Japanese defensive player.
Zhou Yu:  The young Chinese player (an attacker) who just beat #2 seed (4:0).
 
(What is Muramatsu's backhand rubber, LP?  He gives attackers lots of headache.)
 
Hard to predict who is going to win.

Yuto has a big advantage of experience in this, as it is Zhou Yu's first ever Pro Tour. Zhou is the better player though, I see him winning by 4-2 or 4-1 despite the nervousness.


Posted By: Lan
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 3:17am
Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 3:33am
U21 Semifinal


Posted By: GECA
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 7:14am
U21 Final


Posted By: ttc537dp
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:33am
Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.

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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:40am
Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


Posted By: ttc537dp
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:46am
Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.

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Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:50am
Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.
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Zhou Yu just pounded the ball harder - too much power for Muramatsu to handle,


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:55am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:


Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.
And the 2nd, this is what I expected except Zhou doesnt seem to have any nerves here


And the 3rd as well.
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Zhou Yu just pounded the ball harder - too much power for Muramatsu to handle,


zhous raw power is why i knew yuto would lose. i did think hed have a few tricks up his sleeve to steal a game but ZY dictated from the first to last point


Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 10:59am
Skachkov lost to Fang Bo 1-4. He had 4 (!) setpoints in the 5th, lost them all and lost the set and match. Too bad.

So now it is

Xu Xin vs Fang Bo
Mikhail Paykov vs Zhou Yu

Final is going to be: Xu Xin vs Zhou Yu, I am pretty sure...


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Posted By: TTImpossible
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 11:06am

Incredible point of Xu Xin!


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 12:29pm
(ms-qf) XU Xin - YAN An [Full Match|Short Form]

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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 1:49pm
Mikhail Paykov-Aleksandar Karakasevic:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUalN4jM3FA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUalN4jM3FA

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Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 3:22pm
Originally posted by janus700 janus700 wrote:

(ms-qf) XU Xin - YAN An [Full Match|Short Form]
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-WpotS3iw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=da-WpotS3iw

Thanks Janus. Yan An has a nice style, two winged all-rounder, very quick on his feet, doesn't play this super-safe game you see with some players, will be fun to follow him. Quite compact forehand swings there. Almost looks like a Japanese player with more power.



Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 3:38pm
(ms-qf) FANG Bo - SKACHKOV Kirill [Full Match|Short Form]

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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 5:03pm
My new favorite female player is Yana Noshkova.
It's like watching Beyonce play TTTongue


Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:28pm
Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


Great to see another left hander in the Chinese ranks.  Is it just me or do the Chinese loopers treat choppers as if they are the dirt underneath fingernails?


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 9:55pm
Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


Great to see another left hander in the Chinese ranks.  Is it just me or do the Chinese loopers treat choppers as if they are the dirt underneath fingernails?


The next few generations of chinese are gonna feature A LOTTTTTT of lefties


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/15/2012 at 11:28pm
bbkon said: 
"i wonder where is yin han he was top cadet fomer number 1 and he defeated koki several times he must be in a long term training program, i ve seen many pics of him in the chinese magazine must be  very talented."
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By any chance you meant Yin Hang, the player with red T-shirt in this video?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE


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Posted By: liXiao
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 12:05am
Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


Great to see another left hander in the Chinese ranks.  Is it just me or do the Chinese loopers treat choppers as if they are the dirt underneath fingernails?


The next few generations of chinese are gonna feature A LOTTTTTT of lefties

Shang Kun and Song Hongyuan will also be up there. The last generation had Hao Shuai and Chen Qi, but hopefully they will be met with more success. 


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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 12:07am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

bbkon said: 
"i wonder where is yin han he was top cadet fomer number 1 and he defeated koki several times he must be in a long term training program, i ve seen many pics of him in the chinese magazine must be  very talented."
===================================================================
 
By any chance you meant Yin Hang, the player with red T-shirt in this video?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE

a junior player that was training told me that his coach in germany was very hyped about yin


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 12:31am
Originally posted by liXiao liXiao wrote:

Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Originally posted by NextLevel NextLevel wrote:

Originally posted by ttc537dp ttc537dp wrote:

Originally posted by Lan Lan wrote:

Zhou Yu defeated Joo See Hyuk in superleague so yuto mustn't be a massive obstacle


Zhou Yu destroy Yuto in the 1st set.


Great to see another left hander in the Chinese ranks.  Is it just me or do the Chinese loopers treat choppers as if they are the dirt underneath fingernails?


The next few generations of chinese are gonna feature A LOTTTTTT of lefties

Shang Kun and Song Hongyuan will also be up there. The last generation had Hao Shuai and Chen Qi, but hopefully they will be met with more success. 


Lin Gaoyuan, Cheng Jingqi, Yu Ziyang in the mix as well


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 12:40am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

bbkon said: 
"i wonder where is yin han he was top cadet fomer number 1 and he defeated koki several times he must be in a long term training program, i ve seen many pics of him in the chinese magazine must be  very talented."
===================================================================
 
By any chance you meant Yin Hang, the player with red T-shirt in this video?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYiORWfAqmE

a junior player that was training told me that his coach in germany was very hyped about yin

Yin Hang seemed to have alot of potential then fall off the map. I believe I saw something about back problems, and he seems slightly out of shape these days


Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:36am
Fang Bo-Kirill Skachkov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0CxIZz-PI - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7T0CxIZz-PI

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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 3:57am
Xu Xin-Fang Bo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMxz6zPIXcQ&feature=youtu.be - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMxz6zPIXcQ&feature=youtu.be


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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 5:37am
Zhou Yu-Mikhail Paykov:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huXSsnPiiN0&feature=youtu.be - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huXSsnPiiN0&feature=youtu.be


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Posted By: bozbrisvegas
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 8:03am
Xu Xin wins!  But more credit should go to the man came close to a major upset.

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Posted By: mikepong
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 8:59am
Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Xu Xin wins!  But more credit should go to the man came close to a major upset.

yes that was close


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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 9:03am
Xu Xin Fang Bo-Yan An Zhou Yu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8j8hVHz5EM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8j8hVHz5EM


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 9:50am
(ms-sf) XU Xin - FANG Bo [FULL/Short Form]

Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb7ksY3CqAk - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb7ksY3CqAk


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Posted By: naijachief
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 10:39am
Xu Xin....great player....but....needs to cut down on the showboating. He started goofing off from the first round all the way thru to the finals. Almost cost him in the finals.....losing the 6th set and putting unnecessary pressure on himself in order to close out the match.

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Posted By: alborz
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 10:42am
xu xin won. Smile
http://tabletennista.com/2012/9/xu-xin-won-the-2012-russian-open-videos/ - http://tabletennista.com/2012/9/xu-xin-won-the-2012-russian-open-videos/


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:39pm
(ms-final) XU Xin - ZHOU Yu [Full Match|Short Form]

Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1qefNNUkQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1qefNNUkQ


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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:40pm
Xu Xin-Zhou Yu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sM47KJuWs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sM47KJuWs


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Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:46pm
Originally posted by mikepong mikepong wrote:

Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Xu Xin wins!  But more credit should go to the man came close to a major upset.

yes that was close

it seemed to me Xu Xin messed around too much for his own good rather than Zhou Yu being a threat or anything.....


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Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:49pm
Originally posted by janus700 janus700 wrote:

(ms-final) XU Xin - ZHOU Yu [Full Match|Short Form]

Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1qefNNUkQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV1qefNNUkQ


Anyway good job again made by Janus by providing full match/short form for people who want to watch all points. Thanks SmileSmile


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 1:52pm
Originally posted by SoWhySoSerious SoWhySoSerious wrote:

Xu Xin-Zhou Yu:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sM47KJuWs - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2sM47KJuWs

Thanks a lot (for all your videos) my friend; Great job!!!  Thumbs Up


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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by vutiendat1337 vutiendat1337 wrote:

Originally posted by mikepong mikepong wrote:

Originally posted by bozbrisvegas bozbrisvegas wrote:

Xu Xin wins!  But more credit should go to the man came close to a major upset.

yes that was close

it seemed to me Xu Xin messed around too much for his own good rather than Zhou Yu being a threat or anything.....


Zhou also missed shots that he could have made so I think it goes both ways.  It took Zhou two games to realize that he had to play to a level he probably had never played to, but as it got winnable, his poise was remarkable.  I'm sure if Zhou and Xu had hit before the match for 2 hours, the result would have been a bit different and not necessarily in Xu's favor because Xu is more familiar with shakehanders that Zhou is with RPB.


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Posted By: snerdly
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 8:15pm
Zhou choked to lose the last game with substandard play. 

Xu is not as good in rallies as the best Chinese; he lost to Liqin this way. He leaves to table too soon and gets too far from the table. His arrogance allows him to mess about rather than focus on proper play. These are real obsatacles for this big talent.


Posted By: ttplayer92
Date Posted: 09/16/2012 at 9:30pm
zhou sidespin loop is really devastating. Look how far he comes over the ball when he puts it away, Xu xin usually has no problem returning loops from far away but zhou yu's sidespin loops were dynamite. I thought Fang Bo was the future but if Zhou steps up his backhand to be more consistent and less wristy, I think we have a zhang jike with a better forehand

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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 1:24am
Originally posted by ttplayer92 ttplayer92 wrote:

zhou sidespin loop is really devastating. Look how far he comes over the ball when he puts it away, Xu xin usually has no problem returning loops from far away but zhou yu's sidespin loops were dynamite. I thought Fang Bo was the future but if Zhou steps up his backhand to be more consistent and less wristy, I think we have a zhang jike with a better forehand

^^^^^^^


Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 2:15am
lol, overhyped

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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by vutiendat1337 vutiendat1337 wrote:

lol, overhyped

no


Posted By: Backhand Short
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 7:32pm

Both Xu Xin and Zhou Yu signed the scorecard with their right hands. I'm pretty sure I saw Hao Shuai do the same thing a couple weeks ago.  I know Jun Mizutani is really right-handed too.  What's with making everyone learn table tennis with their off hands?  Does coming in from the left side really gain you that much advantage?

I just read that no left-handed Chinese player has won the olympics or a world championship.  What about from other countries?  Does anyone know?
 
I suppose they could all be ambidextrous....right?


Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 8:03pm
In writing Chinese, it is easier to write with the right hand.
It is common that left handers learn to write with the right.
But other than that - Chop sticks, table tennis racket etc is all with the left.

Same with Wang Nan too. And she won the olympics/world champs


Posted By: snerdly
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 8:05pm
Stellan Bengsston is the only lefty to win the world's I am aware of.

Lefties play right handers all the time, generally, while righties seldom play lefties.  So lefties are more accustomed to playing righties, giving lefties some advantage.

The could be ambi, or they might lefties forced to learn to write with their right hand.


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 8:09pm
Both Xu Xin and Zhou Yu signed the scorecard with their right hands. I'm pretty sure I saw Hao Shuai do the same thing a couple weeks ago.  I know Jun Mizutani is really right-handed too. 
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I think in China & Japan, when a left-handed child learns how to write, the parents force the child to use the right hand.  That was the situation back then.
 
In the western countries, parents just let the child use whichever hand the child prefers to use to write.  Parents in the western countries just don't force the left-handed child to use right hand to write.
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I don't think those guys were right-handed but trained to use left hand to play TT - they were left-handed to begin with. 


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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 8:13pm
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Both Xu Xin and Zhou Yu signed the scorecard with their right hands. I'm pretty sure I saw Hao Shuai do the same thing a couple weeks ago.  I know Jun Mizutani is really right-handed too. 
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I think in China & Japan, when a left-handed child learns how to write, the parents force the child to use the right hand.  That was the situation back then.
 
In the western countries, parents just let the child use whichever hand the child prefers to use to write.  Parents in the western countries just don't force the left-handed child to use right hand to write.
 


Correct, and also as I said above, it is easier to write with the right hand - base on how the characters are formed.

A lefty that can write with a right is actually very cool.
Left hand holds an eraser, the right hand a pencil. I thought that was quite cool lol
I also know one person that can use chopsticks with both hands


Posted By: Backhand Short
Date Posted: 09/17/2012 at 11:54pm
Interesting, thanks for the cultural enlightenment on right hand writing and the info on champion lefties.

I heard an announcer once say Jun Mizutani was really right handed and forced to play table tennis with his left.  The Olympics page corroborates that story.  I wonder if he's unique in that regard.


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 10:14am
Is there a youtube version of Zhou Yu vs Muramatsu Yuto?

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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 10:16am
Originally posted by Backhand Short Backhand Short wrote:

Interesting, thanks for the cultural enlightenment on right hand writing and the info on champion lefties.

I heard an announcer once say Jun Mizutani was really right handed and forced to play table tennis with his left.  The Olympics page corroborates that story.  I wonder if he's unique in that regard.


I don't know much about Jun Mizutani - sorry.

However I feel for racket sport - forcing may be indeed more difficlut than oppose to a sport that uses both hands - ie Baseball, basketball, Cricket etc


Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 11:15am
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Is there a youtube version of Zhou Yu vs Muramatsu Yuto?

pretty short video, lolol




Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 12:13pm

^ Not bad for a 15/16 year old. (Muramatsu.)

Originally posted by Backhand Short Backhand Short wrote:

 

I just read that no left-handed Chinese player has won the olympics or a world championship.  What about from other countries?  Does anyone know?
 





Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 12:29pm
Originally posted by cmetsbeltran15 cmetsbeltran15 wrote:

Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

Is there a youtube version of Zhou Yu vs Muramatsu Yuto?

pretty short video, lolol


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Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 12:51pm
Originally posted by Anderni Anderni wrote:

^ Not bad for a 15/16 year old. (Muramatsu.)


I'll show you not bad for a 16 year old 







Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 1:03pm

There are many good Chinese teenagers like Lin, Song Hongyuan and others. ;) But I can still be impressed by a 16 year old defender.



Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 1:08pm

I'll show you not bad for a 16 year old.

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A direct link of those two videos will be great.


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 1:15pm
Originally posted by skip3119 skip3119 wrote:

I'll show you not bad for a 16 year old.

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A direct link of those two videos will be great.

Hey skip, here they are:

1)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsh9--VNK0E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsh9--VNK0E  [Lin Gaoyuan-Oh Sang Eun, Korea Open 2011]

2)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNlRIB-RSU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNlRIB-RSU  [Patrick Baum vs Lin Gaoyuan, Korea Open 2011]

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 Anyone could find the direct links, its easy

When you "Quote" the post with the embedded videos you could see the "Youtube video identities" of all the embedded videos, so when I quoted http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53368&PID=657505&title=2012-ittf-world-tour-koltsovo-russia-open-videos#657505 - that post I found:

vsh9--VNK0E  (for the 1st video)

and  

UlNlRIB-RSU (for the 2nd video)

Now, the general form of a youtube video address is like this:

[A] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v="Video identity"

So, the youtube video addresses of the concrete videos (by replacing Video IDs to [A]) are:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsh9--VNK0E - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsh9--VNK0E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNlRIB-RSU - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlNlRIB-RSU





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Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 1:40pm
Originally posted by Anderni Anderni wrote:

^ Not bad for a 15/16 year old. (Muramatsu.)

Originally posted by Backhand Short Backhand Short wrote:

 

I just read that no left-handed Chinese player has won the olympics or a world championship.  What about from other countries?  Does anyone know?
 




my former coach told me that lefties are taken seriuosly in china, in mid 90's there was a chinese lefty player that use to beat 60% of the matches to kong and liu and was 96 national champion  but never was in the 1st team


Posted By: skip3119
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 2:24pm
janus700:
 
Thank you very much.


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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 09/18/2012 at 4:06pm
(md-f) XU Xin / FANG Bo - YAN An / ZHOU Yu [Full Match|Short Form]

Direct link ::  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlwqxQOMpQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYlwqxQOMpQ


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Posted By: Anderni
Date Posted: 09/19/2012 at 6:02am
 
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

 
my former coach told me that lefties are taken seriuosly in china, in mid 90's there was a chinese lefty player that use to beat 60% of the matches to kong and liu and was 96 national champion  but never was in the 1st team


Yes, it's strange to think about how there have been many high quality players we never heard about, since they were just training partners. 

These days we have CCTV online streams, so I think we can see all of the top quality Chinese players now in the CTTSL and national championships.



Posted By: atv
Date Posted: 09/19/2012 at 6:25am
Originally posted by bbkon bbkon wrote:

Originally posted by Anderni Anderni wrote:

^ Not bad for a 15/16 year old. (Muramatsu.)

Originally posted by Backhand Short Backhand Short wrote:

 

I just read that no left-handed Chinese player has won the olympics or a world championship.  What about from other countries?  Does anyone know?
 




my former coach told me that lefties are taken seriuosly in china, in mid 90's there was a chinese lefty player that use to beat 60% of the matches to kong and liu and was 96 national champion  but never was in the 1st team


I looked it up, the 1996 national champion is lefty, named Zhang Yong, don't know if that is the same person who coached Singapore women's team with Liu Guodong.



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Posted By: ZApenholder
Date Posted: 09/19/2012 at 6:29am

http://www.ittf.com/1997/RESULTS/Man/VIEWS/27.html

By Sportswriter Cao Jianjie

MANCHESTER England, (April 25) XINHUA - Chinese table tennis player

Zhang Yong is the man behind Liu Guoliang's Olympic victories.

The 22-year-old Zhang has been a sparring partner for Chinese star

players Liu Guoliang and Kong Linghui since joining the national team in

1993. Playing an aggressive game in handshake grip, the left-handed Zhang

is the Chinese "Rosskopf" or "Gatien".

"I have to owe to Zhang my victory over German Jorg Rosskopf in the

Olympic Games," said the 20-year-old Liu, who had been held in awe by

Rosskopf before Zhang rebuilt his confidence.

Liu had taken sweet revenge over Rossokopf with a 3-1 victory before he

beat teammate Wang Tao to win China's first Olympic men's singles title in

Atlanta last summer.

In the British Open early last year, Liu was so nervous in the deciding

fifth set against Rosskopf that he dropped his bat twice to the ground and

only got five points.

"Six months of playing against Zhang made a difference," Liu said.

During China's run-up for the Olympic Games and world championships,

the versatile Zhang imitates the ways that top Europeans play.

Playing like Rosskopf and France's 1993 world champion Jean-Philippe

Gatien, both left-handers, has become his specialty.

"When Chinese players are expected to face Rosskopf or Gatien in a

competition, they play against me first," Zhang said.

Zhang said Liu's Olympic victory over Rosskopf was the biggest-ever

reward for him.

"I have fulfilled my mission and proved my value in Liu's Olympic

victory," Zhang said.

Unlike most of the training partners in the Chinese team, imitating

western playing styles is a part-time job for Zhang.

Zhang, who got a doubles silver medal in the 1993 national

championships, won the singles championship in the 1996 nationals where

Liu Guoliang and world No. 1 Kong Linghui also competed.

In the CCTV tennis tournament late last year, Zhang outlasted world

champion Kong 3-2.

"I have a poor record against Kong, but I have won half of the matches

against Liu in the training," Zhang said.

Zhang holds a bigger ambition than beating Liu and Kong. "I am young

and I have confidence to be world champion by myself," he said.

For Liu Wenhua, a training partner for the women's world No. 1 Deng

Yaping, to be world champion is a goal beyond his reach.

The 28-year-old Liu, called into the national team after placing fifth

in a national competition in 1989, helped Deng regain the singles and

doubles titles in the Atlanta Olympics.

"Liu is an unknown hero for the Chinese women's dominance in the

world," said Chinese coach Lu Yuansheng.

Liu, who plays topspin game in handshake style, said his skill had been

on a downtrend because his rivals lacked men's speed and firepower.

"I always held an advantage when I played against Deng for the first

several years, but now I don't," Liu said. "Deng has bettered her skills

while I am on the decline. I has never reached the last eight in national

competition since 1989."

Liu holds no grudges as a stepping-stone for Chinese women's players

and he has recently refused a coaching offer from a European club.

"I am proud of what I am doing," Liu said. "When Deng and her teammates

beat their rivals, I am much happier than them." Enditem

25/04/97 12:54 GMT

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Posted By: legout_de
Date Posted: 09/19/2012 at 6:52am
Anyone knows which blade and rubbers the young chinese guys (Fang Bo, Zhou Yu and Yan An) are playing? 

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Posted By: hubie60
Date Posted: 09/20/2012 at 8:40am
Stellan Bengtsson of Sweden, Seiji Ono of Japan and J-P Gatien of France were World men's champions in 1971, 1979 and 1993 respectively, with the late Anton Stipancic of Yugoslavia the runner-up in 1975. Europe has been dominated recently by Germany's Timo Boll, who has five European titles, and in the past Mikael Appelgren of Sweden won three Euro titles in 1982, 1988 and 1990. Michael Maze was 2009 European Champion as well.

Ding Ning, the current world women's champion, is a leftie, as is the 2007 winner Guo Yue. Of course the great Wang Nan, a Chinese like Ding and Guo, dominated world table tennis with back to back world titles in 1999, 2001 and 2003 and was 2000 Olympic champion as well.

I'm not sure if this is an all inclusive list but it should help. 


Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 09/20/2012 at 10:41pm
Originally posted by hubie60 hubie60 wrote:

Stellan Bengtsson of Sweden, Seiji Ono of Japan and J-P Gatien of France were World men's champions in 1971, 1979 and 1993 respectively, with the late Anton Stipancic of Yugoslavia the runner-up in 1975. Europe has been dominated recently by Germany's Timo Boll, who has five European titles, and in the past Mikael Appelgren of Sweden won three Euro titles in 1982, 1988 and 1990. Michael Maze was 2009 European Champion as well.

Ding Ning, the current world women's champion, is a leftie, as is the 2007 winner Guo Yue. Of course the great Wang Nan, a Chinese like Ding and Guo, dominated world table tennis with back to back world titles in 1999, 2001 and 2003 and was 2000 Olympic champion as well.

I'm not sure if this is an all inclusive list but it should help. 

no chinese male has been able to win,my former coach said lefty are not good for team a1, i think xu xin will retire and never will be able to win


Posted By: SoWhySoSerious
Date Posted: 09/21/2012 at 6:51pm
Feng Yalan-Chang Chenchen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7KzdRxjgq0&feature=youtu.be - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7KzdRxjgq0&feature=youtu.be


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Posted By: hubie60
Date Posted: 09/22/2012 at 2:37am
 Chen Jing, a leftie, won the gold medal in the 1988 Olympics for China, preceding Wang Nan's period of dominance which included an Olympic gold medal and three World singles titles.



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