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Topic: 2013 China Trials for WTTC & HDVideos/Translations
Posted By: janus700
Subject: 2013 China Trials for WTTC & HDVideos/Translations
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 8:27am
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@January 16, 2013 MA Long Vs Zhang Jike [HD] [Full Match/Short Form + MA Long's Interview]
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 10:03am
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Thanks for a great share. May be ZJK is still hurt but XX is simply awesome here. That game saving point by XX at 7:10 in game 3 shows how tough XX is at the moment. Like to see the damage he did to Ma Long as well. Looking forward to the CTTSL final next week. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 2:12pm
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TurboZ wrote:Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 3:59pm
| my prayers were finally answered. TT expert commentator with a hot girl commentator. My ears and eyes can now go to heaven. |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 4:08pm
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Just watched Xu Xin vs Wang Liqin from same trials. WLQ lost but in the first set he came back from 1-9 (!) and won the set. Rulez!
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 5:35pm
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[4th day of squad trials / January 18, 2013] Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa0QwcJEAy0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa0QwcJEAy0
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Posted By: stiltt
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 5:50pm
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wow! I know xu xin is #1 in the world partially because ML and ZJK did not play so many ittf events in 2012 but now we've got some serious confirmation here about him deserving the rank. xu xin might very well snatch ml's long overdue lunch in Paris. ------------- /forum/topic91512_page1.html#1124698" rel="nofollow - sales - forum_posts.asp?TID=19315" rel="nofollow - feedback |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 6:43pm
Wow, I am impressed with Xu Xin's performance lately. Maybe he's finally getting serious and stops being a playful little kid on the playground. sh*t just go real so to speak
I noticed the female commentator, too, and I was like "she damn fine" :DD I wish I could meet a girl who would be into TT and attractive at the same time. Wishful thinking FINAL NOTE: It would be really cool to know what is LGL saying. I am really curious.
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 8:22pm
I am afraid so. Another clean sweep of 3:0. Something we have not seen in a long long time. Thanks for the video. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 11:35pm
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Yes, I also wonder what LGL was saying. Maybe something like "Xu Xin is a boss, no one can stop him anymore." Also, what are the CNT playing for? The final two spots? Quoting from atv's thread, 7 are already going(XX, Ma Lin, WLQ, Wang Hao, Ma Long, ZJK, Hao Shuai) Two spots left. So then why are these 7 still playing in the trials if they were already chosen? I am confused.
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Posted By: beeray1
Date Posted: 01/18/2013 at 11:45pm
| I think the fact that Xu Xin is #1 in the world gave him a new confidence. Even though he knows it's more due to absence on Ma/Zhang's part, I don't think it matters. It's Xu Xin time. |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 12:36am
I don't think so - I look at those matches and while Ma Long and Zhang Jike hate to lose, they weren't playing for anything - if you had to pick 5 players, you really believe those guys won't make the team? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 12:44am
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XX had 3 losses to much lower players a couple of days before. All of a sudden he comes back to beat ZJK and ML. What the hell? I personally dislike everything about him, his game is not nice to watch, and he always makes these faces like "you so lucky I missed that ball'. I must admit my understanding of the game is not good enough to explain why ZJK and ML played SO BAD against him. ZJK's game was full of unforced errors. He missed everything! I don't understand, it's not like XX was attacking everything.. perhaps he was putting some deceptive spin and made people miss? Same with ML. Someone point me to a game where Ma Long looks worse! He missed everything! ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 12:47am
The top four (Xu Xin, Ma Long, Chen Qi and Zhang Jike) from this round will join those three lucky ones (Ma Lin, Wang Hao and Hao Shuai) voted in by the fans and two picks by coaches to play in the final round. The final nine players will be divided into three groups: the top three seeds lead each group, then the No. 6 seed chooses a group, followed by No. 5 seed, and No. 4. The yougest of the last three seeds chooses a group first, and the other two follow the order in age. In the final stage, those three who win the groups will play singels in WTTC; the six losers will be divided into two groups and the group winners will play singles in WTTC as well. Now, the definition of winning a group with three players is like "race to death": He who beats the other two wins the group. if nobody wins the group this way, all the players in the group will play one 11-point game against each other and again, he who beats the other two wins the group; otherwise, all the players will play a 5-point game against each other to see if there is a winner. After that, the tiebreaker will be a game starting with 10-10 and a two-point adavantage wins the game, and again, he who beats the other two in this way wins the group; this "10-10" game will be repeated until there is a clear winner of the group. After the "race to death", the coaches will pick two more players to join those five winners to play singles in WTTC. |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 3:27am
Big thanks for the clarification and explaining the process.  Do you happen to know if there's a complete list of matches and results? ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: alborz
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 7:02am
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when is the 3rd stage?? ------------- Balde : Donic Epox Control Forehand : Donic BlueFire M1 (Black / MAX) Backhand : Donic Vario Big Slam (Red / MAX) Zhang Jike : Man Of Steel |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 8:06am
You haven't watched enough Ma Lin yet, when Ma Lin's game is on, his opponents generally make a TON of seemingly unforced errors and seem unable to make a single good shot that they would normally be able to make(including players like Wang Hao, Timo, Samsonov) . The reality is that he is indeed controlling the opponent completely with his serves, 3rd ball, short game, spin variation and precise placements. Those unforced errors are actually partly forced, and it makes the game "ugly" for those who cannot appreciate the subtleties of the penhold game. I'm glad that Xu Xin is starting to play this way rather than the sort of mindless rallying he used to do which landed him in bad spots against good shakehanders who would outrally him consistently. ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 8:08am
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Chen Qi still the newbie killer as always :( I really hoped Yan An, Fan Zhendong or Zhou Yu would make it to the top 4.... ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: mhnh007
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 9:41am
There is no better word to describe him right now. The Boss owns every one else.
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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 4:55pm
1. Yan An 2. WLQ 3. Cui Qinglei 4. Wu Hao 5. Fang Bo 6. Ma Te 7. Qiu Yike 8. Chen Qi 9. Liu Jikang 10. Zhang Chao 11. Fan Zhengdong 12. Wu Jiayi 13. Zhang Jike 14. Xu Chenhao 15. Ma Long 16. Xu Xin 17. Zhou Yu  |
Posted By: mr.ishaq
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 8:02pm
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watched Janus' video Chen Qi vs Zhou Yu and realised Zhou Yu's strong backhand is also his weakness. ------------- "I do not have any idols. I am my own idol." World Champion Zhang Jike |
Posted By: blahness
Date Posted: 01/19/2013 at 9:15pm
I think the true problem is that Chen Qi's serves ate him for breakfast.... ------------- ------- Viscaria FH: Hurricane 8-80 BH: D05 Back to normal shape bats :( |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 1:51am
I think the Lefty matchup created problems. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 6:57am
I read that it is only 5 out of the 9 can go to WTTC, are you sure there are 2 extra pick by the coaches? ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: zhijie
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 9:35am
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3 winners for each group will qualified. The remaining 6 will be divided into 2 groups and play using the same system. 2 winners will join the 1st 3 to be the 5 players for WTTC. (Source : http://sports.sohu.com/20130120/n364050094.shtml. 2nd paragraph ) ------------- |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 10:21am
Yes. China can nominate 7 players for singles.
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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 11:22am
ahhhhhhhhhhh, I see. Before, i thought the lucky 3(ma lin, hao shuai, wang hao) were going straight to Paris. But, they only got a free pass to the final of the CNT qualification. All of them still have to play the final group qualification, no free lunches. Even the coach's picks have to fight for a spot. The group selections and "race to death" is extremely fun and detailed. Thank you so much for the interesting explanation, I am no longer in the dark.
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 1:19pm
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[January 19, 2013] Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9_x46PjSQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-9_x46PjSQ Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZT5md24aw - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gZT5md24aw
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Posted By: ttplayer92
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 1:26pm
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damn the chen qi and the ma long match was really good! ------------- Butterfly Viscaria FH Globe 999 National BH Xiom Vega Pro |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 3:30pm
 http://i47.tinypic.com/23s6agy.jpg - http://i47.tinypic.com/23s6agy.jpg Awesome table of results, isn't? would be amazing to see more of these matches... or all of them but I doubt we ever will. I imagine the level of pressure and excitement among the players there must have been sky-high... ------------- Single Ply Hinoki Club, Founding Member Say "no!" to expensive table tennis equipment. Please... |
Posted By: JimT
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 3:41pm
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So why do they need the third round if they already have exactly seven players selected? Three from voting - Ma Lin, Wang Hao, Hao Shuai, and four from 2nd round - Ma Long, Xu Xin, Zhang Jike, Chen Qi.
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 4:04pm
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►MA Long Vs Zhang Jike [HD] [Full Match/Short Form+MA Long's Interview/CHN]
Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eldCC4rSlXY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eldCC4rSlXY
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 4:21pm
# Thanks to JimT for the nice table of the results!!  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 4:40pm
I really wish I knew Chinese to understand the commentary. As coaches and other CNT members are commentating as well  I have heard they gossip a lot, I wanna know ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 5:32pm
Some folks on youtube posted vague translations but better than nothing: "They talked about several things: 1. In this game, Ma Long said, he had to use his own style, more changes, to break out of the tangled rallies with Zhang Jike. 2. Ma Long said, since the success in London Olympic, he has more confidence now. 3. He said although both Zhang Jike and he are not listed top 3 in the public voting session, which decides who can directly join the 3rd stage game for Paris, he doesn't mind this result. Because he thinks that Ma Lin and Wang Liqin have more fans. Also, Ma Long asks for other famous stars' fans to vote for him on the Internet, e.g., Jay Chou, a Taiwanese pop singer. Although Ma Long has never talked to Jay face to face...he likes Jay's music very much:)" "we are pretty much same level of skills with jike, i just keep changing tactics.. i know wang hao is commenting me... after Olympic.. i have more confident and experience. he said he may has less fans.. he hope more voters for him. etc....i hope this help." ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 9:07pm
I read only 5 going to wttc but if there is really a total of 7 to go then I guess the extra 2 will only be on reserve and not meant to play any game except someone is injured. So no one in the original 7 will want to be sitting aside without a fight. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 10:38pm
At the WTTC 2011 in Rotterdam, Yan An and Chen Qi were also there as training partners even though they didn't "play' per se. There's a bunch of clips on Youtube with those two warming up with the other 5. If I were a pro player, I wouldn't mind being there while it takes place even as a sparing partner or "benched" player.
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Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/20/2013 at 11:41pm
I can understand sparring partners, but if talking about joining the 5 to play single in wttc then I am puzzled. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: ttcyfi
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 12:24am
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What's the deal with Wang Liqin? Where does he stand in the overall trials? ------------- GO MUSTANGS! |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:19am
At the last WTTC, I remember the following players competed for sure: 1. Ma Long (SF - Lost to Wang Hao) 2. ZJK (WC) 3. Chen Qi (QF - Lost to Timo) 4. Wang Hao (F - Lost to ZJK) 5. WLQ (QF - lost to ZJK) 6. XX (Round of 16 - lost to WLQ) 7. Ma Lin (QF - Lost to Ma Long) So I know 7 players can compete. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:20am
See my post above. Have the rules changed? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:28am
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China can nominate 7 players per gender for singles. This does not include "reserves" or sparring partners. It seems that 5 of the 7 will be determined through the trials. The other two will be coaches' picks. At this point 9 players are still in the hunt for those 5 spots: the 4 who finished first in round 2, the 3 who finished first in the fans' vote, and 2 additional qualifiers still to be determined. Additional players can then be nominated for doubles and mixed doubles (3 pairs total per event). |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:32am
Chen Qi did play in singles - he lost to Timo Boll in the quarterfinals, remember? Yan An only played mixed doubles. |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:35am
My bad, I confused it with WTTC Moscow 2010. ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: amateur
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:36am
| Yes, World Team championships is a different story altogether. |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 5:12am
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Ah, it is wttc instead of wtttc. Got it. ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: LOOPMEISTER
Date Posted: 01/21/2013 at 1:32pm
BTW, this video is in HD and looks great on my Samsung LED at home! I look fwd to the day when more YouTube TT videos are the same quality. ------------- 
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Posted By: alborz
Date Posted: 01/23/2013 at 10:31am
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who are the top seeds of groups.XX , ML , ZJK are the top seeds or XX , ML , CQ?
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Posted By: ZingyDNA
Date Posted: 01/23/2013 at 5:01pm
Well, the coaches can pick 2 guys to join the other 7 (3 voted in by fans, 4 qualified from the 2nd round) for the 3rd and final round qualification. I think those who ranked high following the top 4 in the 2nd-round qualification will have a better chance to be selected by coaches. Of course other factors will be considered: world ranking, age, potential etc. So I would think Yan An is most likely in: he's young and a developing project in the CNT, and he ranked 5th in the 2nd round qualification, just missing the top 4. That leave one last spot. The 6th place is actually Liu JiKang, who's also very young but doesn't have nearly as much experience as Yan both internationally and in the super league. So I would think they might just gave the 7th place Wang LiQin a final shot at the WTTC, as his world ranking is much higher than Liu. And of course, his recent performance in the super league should be taken into consideration. |
Posted By: shaks
Date Posted: 01/23/2013 at 5:52pm
Liu Jikang is 22 as of 2012 december, not very young if you think about it..... ------------- ~shaks Usatt 2150 |
Posted By: pryde
Date Posted: 01/24/2013 at 1:23am
| what is chen qi setup now? viscaria too? |
Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 01/24/2013 at 12:48pm
He was very impressive at the NATTA teams tournament. Taught me that when you have a good short game, you can take looping out of the equation. Almost every time he rallied with Habesohn counterlooping, he lost the point, but most points never got to a rally as he third-balled and short-pushed his way to victory in three sets. ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 01/24/2013 at 11:02pm
the process for uploading video in Yt has changed , i cant do it now.YT ask me to create better profile eveyrything is grayed
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/02/2013 at 4:15pm
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@January 15, 2013 *HD-Video* [no scoreboard] Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9V2aaRXh8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy9V2aaRXh8
*HD-Video* Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQlKRnJaHes - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQlKRnJaHes ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: Chopper88
Date Posted: 02/02/2013 at 9:12pm
| I still think Ma Long and WLQ has the most class out of all the CNT |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 5:27am
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*HD-Video* Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uPNwn9w1xA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uPNwn9w1xA
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 11:17am
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In http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56664&PID=696059&title=2013-china-trials-for-wttc-in-paris#696059 - my previous post the match CHEN Qi - FAN Zhendong replaced by a HD-version
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 4:13pm
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@January 15, 2013 *HD-Video* Direct link :: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZICsSFtRks - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZICsSFtRks
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Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 02/03/2013 at 9:50pm
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edit** Brain Fart When will the final round/"race of death" happen?
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Posted By: xavier0513
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 12:17am
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Malin was the commentator of the game between ZhangJK and Zhou Yu. Very rare and practical analysis of the game.
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Posted By: dingyibvs
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 12:49am
No, it says Xu Xin won 3-1, which as may be seen in the video is what happened. ------------- Blade: Hurricane Long 5 (968) FL FH: D09C max BH: D09C max |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 4:17pm
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# February 4, 2013 [Women's Trial Matches] [Subscribe http://www.youtube.com/user/TTJanus - @TTJanus ] Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq0aVy191GY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq0aVy191GY Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfINdvRUwEg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfINdvRUwEg Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbk42wGQoQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHbk42wGQoQ ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: zheyi
Date Posted: 02/04/2013 at 8:54pm
| thank you for the videos! WenJia is really good! |
Posted By: BarbecueTT
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 12:38am
| just curious, is there a place i can find the full length videos of these so i can hear the entire commentary? i have a friend that is chinese and might be able to translate... |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 5:28am
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@January 16, 2013 *HD-Video* Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf9WBsgyevA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf9WBsgyevA *HD-Video* (this is an older video, posted together here because both matches happened the same day) Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eldCC4rSlXY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eldCC4rSlXY
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Posted By: ttcyfi
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 6:18pm
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i think China is really crossing the line with Zhendong's age. There is no way he is born in 1997. ------------- GO MUSTANGS! |
Posted By: jdzhao
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 7:05pm
In a government sponsored system like that, one is greatly motivated to change his/her age. At certain level, if you are 14 then you are nothing special, but if you are 12 then you are a genius. So it is not Chinese association that does it at the national level, but the families and the regional programs. I think a lot of former communist sports systems share the same trait. That being said, for international competition it doesn't matter that much since no one really compares but it does make China look bad. All of these, of course is based on guessing. At any age, this guy is phenomenal.
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Posted By: jdzhao
Date Posted: 02/05/2013 at 7:42pm
Most of these matches have very interesting comments, almost more interesting than the matches themselves.
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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 12:29am
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that comentator has a voice that.. my god.. she can read the lines in adult movies. I know she's hot too, but her looks are not all that. Her voice though.. ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 12:32am
Careful with what you say. You might start another flame thread  But I will admit that FZD looks really too physically developed for his age. The reason behind is up for debate. It could be just premature puberty or fake age. I, personally, will incline to the latter as faking age wouldn't be the first time to be done in ANY sports by ANY country.
I will second that
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Posted By: ttcyfi
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 12:37am
No question there. FZD has an amazing and complete style of play. Backhand and forehand are equally as strong. ------------- GO MUSTANGS! |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 1:02am
would you think the same if he would be european?' people disliking chinese tt are always eager eager to bash without solid evidence..... do you have FZD birth certificate?' then there is no way you can prove your conspiracy theory. in my club there is a guy that have funny theories about chinese dumping matches, player that are older than they claim ohh i forgot he s a experienced UFO expert .
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Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 1:13am
Please, do not forget that this is all a part of discussion and debate. Do not ignore that it wouldn't be the first time for any country to fake birth certificates of their athletes in any sport. And since we are talking Table Tennis, it would not be unbelievable and not surprising for China to have done it in FZD's generation. Before the new policies and control system were put in place. And also, do not pretend that FZD looks his age. Do not lie to yourself. As I said in my previous post, for all we know, he either matured very early for his age or his age is faked. It's up for everyone to chose which one they want to believe but you can't ignore the plausibility of either one. ------------- bty petr korbel st fh: donic bluefire red bh: dawei iqul black USATT:1811 http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40320&title=feedbackvutiendat1337" rel="nofollow - Feedback me |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 4:46am
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Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 5:21am
I am not sure if Fan's age is real or not. As for as look is concerned, I don't think you can tell if his age was changed by one year or even two, simply because some boy does mature a bit early or late. It is a reasonable guess to say Fan may be older than his ID age, but his look shall not be the reasonable evidence. That's why you need an ID card to buy alcohol when you are around 21. In the following link, you can see a picture of the class of 2012 in a Chinese middle school (or grade 9 in US). They are supposed to be 16 years old. Some of them may be 17 or 15. The teachers are seated in the second row, but those two on the right are students. http://www.lyzyedu.cn/Photo/UploadPhotos/201206/2012062108561564.jpg - http://www.lyzyedu.cn/Photo/UploadPhotos/201206/2012062108561564.jpg If they were CHinese tt players, could you tell which one (or ones) had their age changed? frankly, I cannot tell. |
Posted By: xavier0513
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 5:58am
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It is great to listen to commentaries from legendary figures like Liu Guoliang, Malin, Malong and even Wang Tao. All of them analysed the games and provided refined comments(such as the error in the use of the wrist strength!), from their years of high level TT experience. I enjoy this part of the vid tremendously. Thanks for uploading.
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Posted By: mrdoodzki
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 10:15am
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in the match between zhang jike and ma long. try pausing the video at 1:35... i dont know about you guys, but this service from ma long looks pretty illegal.... ------------- Blade -- Stiga Clipper FH -- DHS Hurricane 3 BH -- Japtec Experience HAPPINESS is....sometimes no words, just the sound of a ball |
Posted By: TurboZ
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 10:54am
Somebody ate too much fast growth chicken from kfc/mcdonalds may be?  http://chinadailymail.com/2012/11/25/china-fast-growth-antibiotic-fed-chicken-for-kfc-mcdonalds/ - http://chinadailymail.com/2012/11/25/china-fast-growth-antibiotic-fed-chicken-for-kfc-mcdonalds/ ------------- http://mytabletennis.net/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=53150&title=feedback-turboz - My Feedback |
Posted By: cmetsbeltran15
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 11:17am
Yeah, I'm calling BS on the guy in the bottom left corner.
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Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 12:58pm
who is the BS here? |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 8:01pm
i wont say anything about gymnastic where i think fake ID could be true but not for table tennis, if you send a boy that is 15 while he s really 18 you re trying to win the junior worlds and i m sure china is not crazy about winning the junior worlds i , ive asked about 4 high level coaches from europe(italy,germany,rusia) and they said that china could send the best juniors and they would win , simply the team they send is not the best players they have
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Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 11:45pm
A player in China has the motive and possiblity of changing his or her birthday. That's almost a solid fact. However, some people went too far by pretending he or she has some kind of scientific eyes for detecting the facial difference between a coupe of 16 or 17 years old; this is pure BS. Speculation is that Fan zhendong may have his age changed, based on the circumstance and motive, not because of his facial structure. Again, google some pictures of 17 or 16 Chinese boys and see if you can tell who is 16 or 17 or even 18. I was told that I looked like a 25-yr old when I was only 17. I guess i need to thank God that I was not playing tt or I would be called a cheater for sure. |
Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 02/06/2013 at 11:58pm
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Back to the topic, Yan An and Fan Zhendong beat Zhou YU and Fang Bo in the PK for the final two picks. Now, those nine palyers in the final round are Ma Lin, Wang Hao and Hao Shuai from fan's votes, Zhang Jike, Ma Long, Xu Xin and Chen Qi from the second round of trial Yan An and Fan Zhendong from the PK for coaches' picks. I guess Wang Liqin's fate is completely dependent on the results of the final round. If a couple of tickets to Paris fall into the hands of Hao Shuai and Chen Qi, Liu will propably drop Wang Liqin. I think it is a smart move by Liu; it is obvious that Wang Liqin would not qualify for Paris as top five in the final round. |
Posted By: TSuBaSa
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:06am
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ma long, zhang jike, wang hao, xu xin and fang bo would be the best choice...
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:07am
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Posted By: vutiendat1337
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:10am
No one needs a scientific eye to recognize how "far" in puberty a boy is. I don't know about you but I am asian and in his age, I looked nothing like him and none of my asian friends did. European kids or "white" kids in general, that's a different story, most of my classmates looked 20 when they were 15. I am not claiming FZD is not truly 16 but from what I have seen, he doesn't look like 16 by "asian standards" if you will. I know that he's a top athlete in his young age but his build is really well-too developed compared to other kids like Lin Gaouyan or Song Hongyuan or even older kids like Koki Niwa or Kenta Matsudaira. Again, he well might have hit puberty early, not like it has never happened before, even among asians. The thing with me is that I don't look at a young player, whatever the country is, and doubt his age just because he's too good. With FZD I asked that question because he simply looked "older". When you look at those french kids, tristan flores, quentin robinot, etc. even if they are tall, you can still believe they are around their age. If anything, his face is quite the "babyface", actually. It's more like his overall body build that makes me question his age.
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:37am
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How old is the kid in this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPp1z9i0cFQ This is in the USA so some people can get some context around how age and size can be deceiving and let this FZD thing rest. There is a reason why FZD is a prodigy. This kid could easily be FZD but would of course need to train much harder and get a much more toned build.
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Posted By: jctlee
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 12:55am
| http://www.tabletennismaster.com/video/2012-north-american-championships-allen-wang?xg_source=activity - http://www.tabletennismaster.com/video/2012-north-american-championships-allen-wang?xg_source=activity this kid is 14 and grow up in US. Not sure where he was born. |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 2:02am
if wining the junior worlds would be a goal for the chinese they would have sent xu xin to play kenta in 2006 but they didnt..chen jinqi, yin hang ,li jie are able to beat the best japanese junior but they have higher goals.
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 4:28am
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Posted By: NextLevel
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 8:33am
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What is the structure of the women's trials? ------------- https://youtu.be/jhO4K_yFhh8?t=115" rel="nofollow - I like putting heavy topspin on the ball... Cybershape Carbon FH/BH: H3P 41D. Lumberjack TT, not for lovers of beautiful strokes. No time to train... |
Posted By: dedema2000
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 8:39am
What kind of body build Fan is supposed to have? Niwa Koki's bony body build is the standard for Asian boys at 16? Niwa will be "16" until he gets bald! Look at the body build of the Chinese kids in this picture (other than teachers, the kids are are supposed to be 16 years) and tell me Fan Zhendong cannot blend in. http://www.lyzyedu.cn/Photo/UploadPhotos/201206/2012062108561564.jpg - http://www.lyzyedu.cn/Photo/UploadPhotos/201206/2012062108561564.jpg |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 9:02am
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@NextLevel # Rules for women (thanks to a chinese friend Tommy Lee): There are 22 players in stage 1 (2th-7th, Feb, Chengdu, Sichuan province). These players play all games between them. At last the first two could go to Paris directly! And, if a player could win two consecutive ITTF World Tour, like Kuwait Open and Qatar Open, she could go to Paris too. 14 players (No. 3-16 in the 1st stage) will play in the 2nd stage, but the schedule and the rule hasn't been announced. Look in the following photo the women's list (@1st stage): http://www.gophoto.it/view.php?i=http://i49.tinypic.com/28vbszn.jpg - http://i49.tinypic.com/28vbszn.jpg End of 1st stage: 1) LI Xiaoxia 2) LIU Shiwen 3) ZHU Yuling ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: bbkon
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 10:29am
I wonder if anybody can get yao ming picture when he was 14
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Posted By: WeebleWobble
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 11:50am
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Posted By: assiduous
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 11:57am
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how does this matter even the slightest? All i care is how good someone is. The world is full of promising prodigys who never achieved anything. If he ever wins anything, i will respect him, otherwise i wont, and his real age couldn't matter less. If you wana talk crap about people lets talk about the french! Now those little %#$@%^@s.. joking : ) ------------- puppy412 : Sorry man, I don't mean to sound disrespectful, but I know that more training will make me better, I don't need to come here to figure that out |
Posted By: popperlocker
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 2:01pm
Interesting.. The rules of the women encourage consistency and winning. While the rules of men are more eccentric.
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Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/07/2013 at 3:52pm
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@January 17, 2013 *HD-Video* Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJuAi6A3ok - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAJuAi6A3ok *HD-Video* Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhp2Zg3dgY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhp2Zg3dgY ------------- http://www.youtube.com/Janus770 & https://www.facebook.com/TTJanus |
Posted By: janus700
Date Posted: 02/09/2013 at 3:56am
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@January 18, 2013 *HD-Video* Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKCbri8TmUc - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKCbri8TmUc *HD-Video* Direct link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqMKc3-ZvjY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqMKc3-ZvjY
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Posted By: Jagged
Date Posted: 02/09/2013 at 10:06am
If you could tell me how to view/extract the full CCTV 5 videos I'd translate them for you =) |